HeyNow

You only lost if you invested at the "peak." Others did very well, but you knew that.
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You're a real pisser Snoop, probably one of the least objective characters when it comes to domains. Readers here should be aware of that before taking your words to heart.

scandiman

You mean where they say this on their mobile banking page?

"Mobile Banking is now available to Online Banking customers at www.bofa.mobi from your cell or smart phone browser"
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If this is giving up on .mobi then I'll take it!

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snoop

You think so? I'd say most people have lost at this stage.

Take 3 letter .mobi's for example, thousands unsold with a $4 BIN for multiple purchases, those would have cost $2X ea at the cheapest point before the buyout was complete ie registration fee for the two years. What are these worth now? $2, $1, nothing?

From what I have heard they no longer promote it. Even if you type bofa.mobi into google it doesn't return the site.

mjnels

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as noted over on domainstate... the ATM i went to the other day had an advertisement for bofa.mobi and the packet of papers i received when i opened a bank of america account in person a few months ago advertised exclusively bofa.mobi on the "mobile banking" page..

i suspect the redirect is to assure customers they are on a legit bank of america site... because, lets be honest.. not many people know what .mobi is right now.


regarding LLL.mobi, i would say it safe to say MOST people invested at the peak or mid-way to the peak and have lost money at this point. what the future holds... i dont know.

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-REECE-

I just read on a blog that BlackFriday.info received 4 million uniques in November, triple what BlackFriday.com got...

Good for BOFA.mobi, good for BlackFriday.info -- glad they found something that works for them.

I fail to see how this relates to the members here who largely own undeveloped .mobis, however.

Sure a mobi can be successfully developed -- I don't think anyone is contesting that.

mjnels

it doesnt.. i dont think anyone was suggesting that it does.

someone just pointed out on domainstate that bofa.mobi redirects to bankofamerica.com/mobile and that they've "given up on .mobi" and snoop mentioned that here.

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snoop

Thanks for the info.

scandiman

I copied my earlier post from their bofa.com website about a minute before posting so check your sources.

BTW, bofa.com redirects to https://www.bankofamerica.com/Contro...e=corp_bofacom... see a pattern here?

both BofA.mobi and com redirect to another url. It's an IT thing. Their IT dept doesn't care about TLD's, they care about security, up time, etc. which apparently is already established for BankOfAmerica.com servers... no need to sort it out for another domain, be it a com or mobi.

BofA = short brand, memorable, quick to type

BankOfAmerica = technical name

Twisting this into a dis on .mobi is ridiculous.

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-REECE-

Honestly, I have nothing against .mobi (or even .tel for that matter) -- it's just an extension, however I'm getting sick of these "OMG look a big company uses .mobi" threads.

Really, it's pathetic. If you want mobi to be a success for you, go out and make it a success for you.

Plenty of sites out there take any required web design skill out of the equation

http://wordpressmobile.mobi/
http://www.mobisitegalore.com/index.html
www.ready.mobi

All you really need

mjnels

its not really like that to everyone.. while some people may be way too enthusiastic about these things, i still enjoy reading the little tidbits of information along the way simply because im interested in this particular topic. thats all..

(this thread is actually 6 months old)

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Bodhi

I actually find it interesting see a large corporation using the .mobi extension. It is something I am keeping an eye on, because if there is ever a tipping point to the acceptance of .mobi, I want to see it coming. Large companies using the extension is one part of the equation for me.

I have no idea where the .mobi extension is headed, or any other extension for that matter but I will take any news on a TLD I can get, especially a new TLD.

Pred

i totally agree

labrocca

Well I can't keep it straight...was bofa.mobi always a redirect? I seem to recall that it wasn't and that was part of the hype. I even mention months ago that bofa one day might become just a redirect and well...now it is. If it wasn't a redirect before and now it is...that pretty much tells me that bofa realized the mobi strategy was a failed one.

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mjnels

interesting...that post made me check.

it appears bofa.mobi was always a redirect.. here is a thread from nearly 2 years ago that proves it:

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/295...goes-mobi.html

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Pred

ok.

time to discuss chase.mobi

NewWorldArk

I honestly think this statement is really uncalled for. Normally I attempt to stay away from responding to some of your statements that you've made regarding this extension, respecting you as a MOD.
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But HONESTLY. This Izzzzzz the .MOBI section, Is it NOT? (Not the Reece, Snoop, Labrocca... hates, dislikes, tired of seeing, blah, blah, blah... "Another Big Corp" goes .mobi section of Namepros, correct ?)

Mobile is a NEW thing, it's an Exciting thing for some of Us, evidently. When there are New Major Companies such as uhm, errr, aye, uh,
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(or... any of these others listed here as an example http://why.mobi/brands.php)

Putting together a mobile formatted site and building it on the .mobi namespace then I personally think that's a highly Post Worthy thing Quite Honestly.

I Believe these services are all free, and the same ole adage can apply.........you get what you pay for.

If you type bofa.mobi into google search it clearly reads go to bofa.mobi or just visit bofa.mobi,

Or.....

Google Search: Bank of America Mobile Banking

Search Results: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...ng&btnG=Search

First Result: http://www.bankofamerica.com/onlineb...mobile_banking

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snoop

The .mobi section is for discussing .mobi, good and bad, this isn't the "let's promote .mobi forum". Some people think the extension is lousy and will say as such, get over it.

That isn't why I get when searching for bofa.mobi, I tried it through a US proxy aswell and still get no link or reference to bofa.mobi in the listings.

-REECE-

Let me put it in perspective -- and Snoop can back me up here because he visits the short domain discussion forum as well... I don't browse through the list of LLL.coms or LLLL.coms trying to find big companies which are using them. It's silly, it's pointless, it has no relation to undeveloped .mobis and if anything, creates further false hype that people are going to get rich off these names without doing any development.

Having one more BOFA.mobi on board isn't going to "make" .mobi -- I think it's very clear at this point that .mobi is a development extension only unless you name is Mjnels or maybe a handful of other people who are still making money in the extension outside of development.

And New World Ark, there are plenty of good free domaining, development, and SEO resources -- absolutely no excuse for anyone to finish 2009 in the red, regardless of extension they choose to invest in.

I've been saying this for oh I don't know, 18 months now (?) that if mobi investors spent twice as much time developing .mobis as they spend arguing with people who don't believe in the extension and trying to convince them of mobis worth, I think there'd be a lot more mobi investors in the black.

snoop

Yes, generally when an extension or type of domain is popular it is obvious, you can see it with .com and popular country codes, rarely do people bother to debate it and if anyone does that it isn't taken very seriously.

.Mobi supporters post up sightings etc because they are trying to convince others that the extension is going well, those people are salesmen, trying to convince others and possibly themselves. That is why people like NewWorldArk carry on about negative posts about .mobi.

The same thing has happened in other domain areas that have flopped, .tv, 4 letter buyout names, .us etc. There is nothing worse for these people than having other people give the opposing view. It is a bit like a vacuum cleaner salesman trying to sell a product whilst the guy standing next to him tells the audience the product is defective and the salesman is pretty full of it.

DomainTalker

Well, snoop....There's no doubt its dark days right now in the .mobi domainer aftermarket, allright....Values of all assets (including all domains) are crashing around us, as we speak - but, .mobi has taken a bigger, deeper, bath, at this point, for sure, and, with it, my investment is underwater, at the moment.


Having said that, I still feel that .mobi will find a good place on the mobile internet, as it unfolds - for all the reasons that have been so tediously, and so often, discussed, in the past. Regardless of Bank of America, more and more large corps are, in fact, using their .mobi's all the time.


But, .mobi's not a domainer play, anymore (if it ever was) - or, at least, it won't be until (and unless) it gains serious traction 'out there' among consumers & end users, large and small. And, that means - at the very least - its a long term play.
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Personally, I've invested in a bunch of top keyword category-killer generic .mobi's. Each of my premiums are being developed - and, I'll invest in them, and promote them, as stand alone businesses, over time. That may hedge my bets, a little, by adding value...

...In time, as traffic builds, there may be profitable sales to bigger end-user players in the key mobile markets that my category-killer generic names represent. One good deal - in say, 2-3 years - will more than recoup all I have invested. That seems a realistic possibility to me, given the quality of the names I have (they include Finance(.)mobi, Computers(.)mobi, Airlines(.)mobi, and others).


So, to answer your question....Medium term, I think there is profit in .mobi....but, it'll need a good strategy, outstanding names - and it'll need both the mobile internet - and, economic conditions - to greatly improve from here.


Very long term? I think .mobi will find a solid place on the mobile web.

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NewWorldArk

I believe your original statement, within a 3 month old dormant thread was "Bank of America's giving up on .mobi", a majority of the responses have been in relation to that statement. Simple as that.
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To expect the Mobile Market to be in the exact same place as far as discussions go or even posts go, in relation to the well established PC internet domain market, shouldn't be expected by those who deem it unnecessary to begin with.

I think anyone that has a Business or Financial interest in .mobi specifically is in fact keeping an eye on any news good or bad in relation to it.

It sounded like this comment was in relation to the lack there of, of Design that comes out of these services, my apologies for the misinterpretation of your statement.

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HeyNow

Well whoop-dee-doo! You're a legend in your own mind.

gobuy

I am not sure how bad the values have been affected, but Games.mobi sold this week for $44,000 http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm so that's very good!

Keith

Good yes. It actually had a bid of $400k when it was initially
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auctioned at Sedo. Legal issues forced it to be re-auctioned.