There is no doubt Kevin Ham is a very intelligent person and great business man. No doubt about it. He might even be a wonderfully nice and friendly person.
Anyway... back to the Domain King.... Mister Rick Schwartz.
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Reality Domaining TV. Tonight's Episode:"The only King's I know are Jesus and Elvis". Starring:"The Angry Domainer".
In this premier episode of the new ground-breaking television series, The Angry Domainer looks for signs of greatness from the self-proclaimed "Domain King", only to be disappointed to find this King is nothing but a fantasy, much like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
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This video will be played around the world as most domainers need a good laugh with parking the way it is now. He still has the traffic, yet credibility about domain developement is lacking.
Maybe Ron at Dnj should see this.
Thats it folks, ( talking like the king now) the guy who owns the internet is really the king with no clothes. He owns the lots, yet lacks the vision to develope out the names.
Playing the same story for years and HE GETS FRONT PAGE in the domain news? Now I know why some of these big players don't post around here.
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Indeed -- neither NamePros nor RJ has anything to do with it.
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Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure I saw a man-nipple.
I see Duke is here now, and I fear that he might be angry with me for some of the things I said in my posts on the first page, but I want to state again -- I have much respect for Duke. I realize he works closely with Rick Schwartz on TRAFFIC coverage etc., and I don't know how close of friends they are, but it doesn't change the facts, or my feelings. Or for that matter, the feelings of LOTS of other people.
Again though, all due respect to Duke. Nothing said has anything to do with him personally.
Peace.
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LOL. Not at all -db- I could never be mad at you...well, I am a little pissed that you were away for so long - that left a big void.
You've always said what was on your mind - something you have in common with Rick S. now that I think about it, so you two may be more alike that you think
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it's very interesting to see the different views people have about subjects like this.
I haven't seen the video you referenced above yet - now I'm afraid to look
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Since when is the internet supposed to be simply a "source of information", that sounds like geek talk from 1994.
If providing content makes less then parking then surely market forces are telling us that those advertising pages have greater economic value? Does it makes sense to provide "free information", that people don't value (or at least won't actually pay anything for) when that page could be filled with advertising that will generate actual sales/jobs for employees/growth for the economy?
Actually a friend of mine did pretty much that last year, he bought a piece of land next to a freeway mainly for the purpose of putting a big billboard on it. Lots of people also buy land for carparks or simply speculation that people might want to develop the land in the future.
That's because the Geeks were right back then -- and they are still right today. That is exactly what the Internet is supposed to be. Whether it be today, 15 years ago, or 15 years from now.
And that's what the majority of the world uses it for.
Sorry, but I can no longer stay silent about, or support the overwhelming greed of this industry, where people are more concerned with pay per click, then actually doing something REAL with their properties.
Whether you like it or not, and whether you agree or not - it is ruining the Internet. Just ask a NON-Domainer. Just ask somebody on the street. Ask somebody at your favorite restaurant. They hate us. And they have good reason to.
So I think it's time we find better solutions, and take responsibility for what we are doing to the web.
Or, we can sit back and be lazy, do nothing but put up parking pages, continue to clog up the Internet with worthless junk, and prove to the rest of the world that we're the bunch of lazy bums they claim we are. How does that sound?
That's not even close to being the same as the example I gave. And if you are going to try and defend the industry, instead of admitting it's faults, this could be a long thread because I brought my lunchbox with me, and I'm ready to rock.
I am sick of bullshit. We can't fix the problem if we don't admit it exists.
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Dated views, people use the internet for all manner of things, buying products, using financial services, porn, gambling...and did I say buying products? There is no "what it is supposed to be", the Internet it is what it is...women aren't supposed to wear dresses which show their knees either, that is what some people said in 1930. Men were supposed to wear a bow tie and top hat when going to church. The world has adapted and changed since then.
The tech types look back at the "good ole days of 1994" times which suited them, but which weren't really weren't that good because nobody was actually making a profit.
The average guy on the street uses these pages. Just look at what CTR's are like on high quality domains of the ilk that Kevin Ham owns. 60-70%+, obviously people people are finding those sites useful even though the "I love Linux" types wouldn't go near them.
Somebody close to me just reminded me that I'm not at full strength or capacity, and since this is my first day back on the job, and first chance to jump back into being active on the forum again -- it's probably not a good idea that I get myself too carried away.
There's plenty of time for that later.
So instead, I will attempt to summarize my feelings about this whole thing with one brief statement, and one real-world example.
When a member of my family has to spend 4 hours trying to find one tiny spec of credible information or a legitimate source for a specific type of cancer, because most of the pages are nothing but link farms going to other link farms.... THERE IS A PROBLEM.
And guess who owns all them pages -- Domainers.
HELLO!
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What you're friend had done is buying land to advertise something real (At least that would be the purpose of putting up a billboard for most people) not something that doesn't exist pretending it does.
For which the latter is what was illustrated by -db- analogy.
Putting a sign out front saying "Hospital" to attract sick visitors, when there's nothing there but an empty lot is deception and is how you deliver disappointment, not a solution.
I think you'll have to agree there is a fundamental difference in what your friend has done and with -db's- analogy.
I'm simply talking about generic names, which is what I think the Dnjournal article is talking about either, so I don't follow the deception part unless you are talking about typos.
So tell me how would you measure the usefullness of a park page?, do you have an objectice measure?, the only other one I could thinking of would be tracking actual sales (that advertisers have made) generated by the park page.
.....You telling me Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny ain't real ??? 
