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Old 05-10-2008, 02:50 PM   · #26
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Originally Posted by labrocca
Great justification ...whatever floats your boat. I can guarantee that I know more about how the music industry works than you. Everything you just said...hogwash.

Did you know that unless artists sell X records they actually OWE the record label money?

Do you realize how much record labels spend in order to help launch the artist?

Would you even know what bands to like if it wasn't for the record labels promoting these bands?

Tours ONLY happen because record labels are able to assist bands in their promotion.

Get rid of the record industry..and you get rid of bands.

The quality of music has gotten incredibly poor the past few years...that's because record labels can't afford to take chances on anything that won't sell. Profits and sales are declining at a rapid pace.

bah...open thievery makes me sick...it's like a bank robbery in broad daylight



Yes I did?

A lot of money. That doesn't mean the record label deserves 3 million and the artist gets $30.

I don't listen to bands that are with major record labels. Indie labels treat their artists a hell of a lot better.

What about unsinged bands that tour?

Get rid of the record industry and you get rid of the junk bands that should have never made it mainsteam. The day record labels thought more about the money then they did the artist is the day music died.

They have enough money to take the chance to sign a band that may flop. Why risk money on a band that wont sell when they can sign a band and just throw money at it to make them popular?

Record companies making millions of hard working artists make me sick.


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Old 05-11-2008, 02:59 AM   · #27
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i was having a read of it an dits been ont he news a lot here.

To me, I see it as a good thing. no more illegal downloads form that site

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$XXXmm verdict means little, unfortunately.

You can't get blood from a turnip/stone, and EU and other European/Developed countries are caring less and less for US court decisions. Not going into what part of the verdict would be punitive (Germany and others have begun to summarily "throw out" punitive awards from the US as opposed to the historical practice of "a valid judgment is a valid judgment is a valid judgment" - the US is one of only a handful of countries to have "punitive" damages available to private litigants.), but whether through protection through bankruptcy or other remedy, the MPAA will suffer a huge net loss as a result of this litigation.

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Old 05-12-2008, 02:53 AM   · #29
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Originally Posted by labrocca
..... Did you know that unless artists sell X records they actually OWE the record label money?


Most bands that sign must be really desperate.

Originally Posted by labrocca
Do you realize how much record labels spend in order to help launch the artist?

Would you even know what bands to like if it wasn't for the record labels promoting these bands?


I believe that I can decide for myself what music I enjoy.

Tom Petty has a new song about the "Last DJ" who plays what he wants to play. Record industry control prevents the majority of bands from being heard while a few chosen bands get all the air time - and the vast percentage of the money does not ever get to the band. Petty and the other great bands would rise to the top virally if there were no music industry - there would be a lot more variety and the junk bands would not be rammed down our throats.

Originally Posted by labrocca
Tours ONLY happen because record labels are able to assist bands in their promotion.

Get rid of the record industry..and you get rid of bands.

Super mega concerts might be less common, but live music is a lot older than recorded music. The (music) world would go on. The internet will largely replace the record store, and long tail marketing will open up possibilities for many new artists. I would rather see a lot of musicians making a decent amount of money than a few making millions while most are making nearly nothing.

Originally Posted by labrocca
The quality of music has gotten incredibly poor the past few years...that's because record labels can't afford to take chances on anything that won't sell. Profits and sales are declining at a rapid pace.



Music has declined ever since the Beatles broke up. (only partly joking).

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bah...open thievery makes me sick...it's like a bank robbery in broad daylight



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Old 05-12-2008, 03:20 AM   · #30
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What hypocracy...

Paypalsucks.com and other sites can legally operate and are not reponsible what their users post.

Torrent sites can operate but are now legally responsible for what their users post.

I see a horrible pattern here....
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:49 AM   · #31
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Paypalsucks.com and other sites can legally operate and are not reponsible what their users post.


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Old 05-12-2008, 10:12 AM   · #32
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Oh how easy it is to forget that there was a classaction lawsuit against the CD companies for price-fixing in the 90's .
I personally bought 5 cd's a week during those 10 years , at an illegal inflated price set by the CD companies.
So, they can go ....
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Ah yes , let's also forget that those same companies get a royality for every blank 'music' cd sold, and for every 'cassette' sold, they make money even if people use those cassettes for their own projects!!

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They make money , and make you feel guilty, Are they going to give a refund if the music sucks? flat out no
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:24 PM   · #33
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Originally Posted by xXDanteXx
I agree with squid. The big companies have caused this themselves.

For example in my country if i want to buy a legit game for my XBOX 360 it would cost me approx 100$ but if I buy that same game from pirated disc store (which they themselves download through torrents) it will cost me only $2


This is rationalization not reason. Blame the victim. It's the same sad crap that pedophiles and rapists use.
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:20 PM   · #34
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Originally Posted by liquidcherry
500k could by you a cheap a$$ sneaky lawyer...

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Old 05-12-2008, 04:33 PM   · #35
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500k could by you a cheap a$$ sneaky lawyer...

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Too late for that - Unless they specialize in Bankruptcy ...
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:35 PM   · #36
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