I think "I" screwed that one up.
I posted something similar, that sounded like I was asking for a favor.
Like, "I'd even buy it back from you if you ended up not liking it"
I know, I know...I'm an idiot!!!
My intentions were very good though!
I was just VERY excited to be part of that, and well...
I agree with you about the wording!
Why this is SO important to ME...
I started off, doing everything Back-A$$wards.
I regged a ton of names, THEN found NP much later on a fluke.
I don't have the luxury of KNOWING all of my domains fit into
the $60.00 or over category.
Since joining NP, I TRULY believe my purchases & hand reg's
have become alot better.
And definitely worth at least $60.00.
So, In order to throw abunch of my names out there,
in one great showcase, rather then listing in individual threads,
would be very important to me.
People will already be in that section, looking to purchase domains.
Maybe, a couple of my LLLL's might fit a world wide enduser better because of acronym placement?
Maybe, some of my LLLLL's are better than some I see selling for $200.00+?
Maybe some of my .tv's are better than some which are selling for big $?
Maybe some of my purchases in the aftermarket, are worth more to someone else?
I have some great keywords w/some creative prefixes that could do great?
Some 2-worders that are prob. perfect for someone out there?
I would like to take my chances on someone seeing them all in one central
location, and hopefully if they were interested, kicking off an auction,
that would COMMAND a much larger audience.
By kicking off the auction, I mean...READY & WANTING to purchase my domain for $60.00
and hopefully higher if more bids were placed.
More people, more ideas, more $$$.
So, for someone like me, who hasn't exactly found their perfect niche
as of yet, this is critical. I assume there are others in the same boat.
I will take my chances on the occasional failed sale, but they WILL be reported.
I sell Ebay also, and that is not a perfect system.
Nothing is, but you have to start somewhere.
And I don't see how this will ever have a detrimental effect on NP.
My Sedo name isnt NPRedRock.
It's ME on my own.
I dont think that WHERE the bid starts matters.
Like Reece said, I could get my neighbor to set up an account,
just to start it off.
Why do that, when we can do it here,
with people who like to purchase domains, and do it daily!
So, I have seen alot of the daily sales reports,and I'm sure some of my domains will be in some future sales reports, I'm just not sure which ones as of yet?
I guess that is why this is VERY important to ME.
If I want a domain on Sedo auction, I'll get it on Sedo auction... I have people who'll set that up for me.
Unethical? I really couldn't care less what anyone in this thread thinks on that point tbh. The "circumvention" (if you want to call it that) of Sedo's auction system is the direct result of their own ineptitude in facilitating the auction process.
You can think of this thread/forum proposal however you'd like, but imho, it's better than what's going on right now (friends setting up auctions for friends and/or the use of second and/or hacked accounts).
Yes Reece but that is what we have to stop. That is what we have to bury deep into the grounds.
We have to fight this type of people otherwise someday our own houses will get burned.
There was a proverb "PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW STONES"
We all are domainers and we should fight against every small opportunity that is being created for people to abuse it.
Privately many might be doing it. But they also know privately that it is unethical. And now as Namepros is going to encourage it. I knew they will privately abuse it.
Thanks
This is exactly like telling that if I want to kill someone I will kill him or get him killed. I have people who can do that and I don't care. But deep inside I know it is not right. So over there comes the point of ethics.
I really don't mean to come across as rude or opportunistic, but at the same time anything that's not illegal or against the terms I agreed to when signing up is "fair game" as far as I'm concerned. I don't go out of my way to find "loopholes", but I won't pass up on legitimate, legal opportunities that present themselves.
I'd rather be the hedge fund manager making $1B/year than being the "ethical" stockbroker who can barely provide for his family because all his clients are moving to brokers who get better returns...
Once again, strictly my opinion here, but I think you're doing alot more good for humanity if you make $1B/year and give it all away to charity than if you adhere to the strictest of ethics all the while your own family survives on food stamps.
Difference of opinion perhaps... I don't see either being necessarily wrong.
I said in one of my earlier posts that I was 100% sure you had nothing but good intentions
I think all domainers need more exposure of their names. My only concern is the few that will abuse this.
Yes, as you pointed out it is already going on behind the scenes. Im just not sure its a good idea to bring it out in the open.
I spoke some time ago to RJ about having a revolving showcase feature here at namepros on the front page. (alittle like the sedo listing already there), but for members names that dont cut the top slots. This would be a great way for members names to be seen here. Maybe
After thinking about this thread, this is my opinion.
If Namepros is going to cater for a push to auction section, let it be a push to Namepros auction section, not a push to Sedo section.
Otherwise use the external auctions section.
Sedo hasn't provided an easy way of setting up auctions to be pushed where
A) the seller alerts the buyer to be aware that they want the auction to be pushed
B) the domain goes instantly to auction after the bid has been made as the seller has already given authorisation for it to be an auction.
Pushing to a Namepros auction would certainly increase accountability
TBH, I think the External Auctions section should be renamed... I was under the impression (by the title "External Auctions") when I initially made the offending thread that only ongoing auctions elsewhere were allowed there. Seeing as the title gave me this impression, I've never even bothered to visit the section -- I already visit the external auction sites, so why would I need to be reminded of what's there?
Judging by how many threads in that section have pre-existing bids versus how many have no bids and by how my "send your short domain to sedo auction" thread had 50+ replies inside of a day versus not even 50 replies for the entire External auctions forum over that same period of time, I'm guessing I wasn't alone in this false belief that the section was for pre-established auctions only...
Maybe reorganizing that section is all we really need? Why not have subforums for the different auction venues and/or implement some of the other ideas mentioned in this thread (eg. starting bid amounts, type of domains, whether there are bids or if you're looking for a start, etc?) The section is really hard on the eyes as is -- and like I said, it's really confusing, even to a mod whose supposed to know how Namepros works!
Inviting someone to BUY your domain for a x minimum amount provided their bid will not be exceeded on Sedo's auction platform is not unethical whatsoever.
Implying it is unethical is dishonest towards people including myself, that find this way of creating legitimate opportunities, simple everyday risk versus reward business worth pursuing.
Of all the arguments against this idea i have seen this would be the prize winner of the one that is the most ludicrous.
Comparing sending a domain to auction agreed between two parties...to murder for hire plots...
The sky is falling...I'm telling you...it's faaaaaaaaaaaling
But that was my opinion and it will remain like that. Because making one thing good takes years and ruining it takes just some seconds. So maybe sky is falling on me. But it is because I care.
