What if sales falls through? Will it not involve Namepros in it?
You can't say You Bid, You win, You buy. Yes they are the rules. But if everyone on the planet used to follow the rules then there was no need for policing the stuff.
Just imagine if You bid, You win, You buy stuff goes to something like, You Bid, You win, You run.
Who will be there to take all the responsibility except Namepros.
Nick,
You are a great guy,
but I have no idea what you are talking about?
Are you taking the Negative approach, also?
C'mon,
We may as well stop EVERY auction here, also!
Just in case people dont fulfill their obligation of the
SIMPLE rules...Bid, Buy, Push, Done!!
Nick...Shi! happens...Look at OUR transaction (My winning auction of YOUR 3 - LLLL's, that somehow had a huge problem getting out of your registrar).
So, dont tell me everything here is Perfect, but as soon as we enter SEDO, everyone is going to turn into some Misfit, and start screwing everyone else.
Nothing will be different.
Things will go well, and some may not.
Thats the real world.
But dont shoot the idea down because you have lost faith in NPers.
I am just saying that if shit happens and it happens from Namepros side then that is the issue.
I would have loved all of the members to have great exposure and great sales. In fact I am also a domainer. Right.
But my only concern is that if and only if the sales fall through then it will not be limited to a member but it will look like Namepros is backing up this type of ideas.
Why can't we just stick to it? It is doing the same thing. But here NP is not responsible if the sales are ruined.
I am not against it not in favor of it. I am just in favor of Namepros itself. I hope you will like this opinion and see that it does have a chance... a slightest chance that Namepros will be involved and it will be bad for it.
Other then that I am happy. In fact I also own many domain names. So I am just giving my opinions on unbiased grounds.
They will loose their membership on sedo or not that I don't know.
There will be members who will loose their memberships. That is for sure.
Now no one cares if they loose their memberships on daily basis or not. Because that is going on from many years. And it is sedo's decision and their playground. So they can do whatever they like to do with their members.
I was just saying that we would not like our [That is Namepros] members to get going for something like this.
I know what happened to our auction deal. But I refunded you 100% back and also sent you the buyout amount. But is everyone same? Maybe not. Some people do give higher value to the dollars then to their rules in their life. And we can't know if there will be some getting into this.
This will create mess for our good members. Lets say like you.
Someone bids $60 on your name and then backs out right now. Then again someone bids $60 on your name and backs out again. I think sedo will not only close their accounts but also yours. Because they will know that you are the one who is telling them to start the auctions and if some other person is not outbidding the initial bidder then the sales are falling through.
So risk is not only to the bidders account but also to the sellers account. Because they can see a trend I think.
Whatever the outcome maybe from this. I am just worried about Namepros and newbies. I don't want any hurt people lying around here and there. It is in my duty to protect and think positively for Namepros and its members. I have no personal contacts with members. But well if I am a member here and if there is something I can do good for people on here. I am always ready to do that. If the outcome of this discussion is going to be good for all the people and for Namepros itself as an entity then there are no problems. But we can't take chances. So even if you are on Positive side then also I would like to welcome your opinions from negative side. We can check the pros and cons. If there is much which is being risked with this then I would say my opinion is "NO" and the major thing is there should not be a slightest risk for the NAMEPROS as whole in this new system. What do you think?
I think you are very concerned with the reputation of NamePros.
That is a great, proud, and loyal characteristic.
I have alot of pride myself, being a member of this community.
I would hate to see NP's image tarnished in any way.
We open our minds, and think of the pros and cons, fine.
But lets not stifle an idea, before it is even started.
I am very optimistic.
I have a feeling MANY members will do a great job in keeping this idea alive and well.
There will be a couple of real life flaws, I'm sure.
But there will be alot MORE success stories.
Because if there are positive things only attached to this then there wouldn't even had been a debate in first place. The debate is all about that slightest and smallest negative things attached to it and the possibilities of negative stuff coming out of it.
hehehe. No Its free to change for me.
That I'll Do it message is for our members who need help.
If there is someone who needs help in doing anything. Then yes I will do it
As for this system also I don't mind helping in favor of it or against it.
All the concern was for NamePros as whole.
But still the final outcome will not depend on your or my ideas. It will be a combined opinions and ideas of all of us. And if NamePros does goes ahead with this then someone will be taking its responsibility I think But that is the thing to convince the staff.
Well,
I guess we will just have to wait and see.
I really hope everyone doesnt only think of the WORST case scenarios.
There IS alot of good that can come out of this!
Again, lets remember that Sedo is now already allowing sellers to say in their description area of current running auctions the same thing we are proposing here:
"I have these other domains, which if you make a $60 ( or whatever price ) bid on, I will send to auction."
That's it.
Somehow by Namepros allowing the same thing Sedo already is, it will tarnish Namepros???
For convienance sake mostly. Just like why we have a special section for short domains, or auctions. The interest in this would justify not only having it's own thread, but it's own section.
We're talking about Sedo here. Doesn't it deserve it's own thread at least?
I knew there was an interest in this before Reece posted his thread. There are many Namepros members who have an interest in an easier way of getting their domains seen, no matter where it is. It just happens that Sedo is one of the best places to get your name seen.
So, what's wrong with making it easier for members to get their domains seen? In an open honest way? With guidelines?
I don't like Namepros being a part of it. <<< This is my opinion
Members can do it themselves on their personal basis as suggested in that thread example I gave.
It is similar to what this idea is suggesting. So what is trouble with posting your names in your thread like that.
My idea is not to ruin someone's dreams or members plans. My idea is to keep Namepros out of it
Why to keep it out of it? Well I have doubts and I hate letting Namepros getting involved into doubtful stuff. That is why I am also posting my opinions on it.
Now nothing can convince anyone that there will be no problems at all. So that is where this whole matter is standing right now.
But as I said earlier. It is opinions. I am not right. No one is right. It is discussion and maybe some good output will come out of this all
Obviously you can already list your domains for sale in the marketplace here with a link to your Sedo offer page. You can also state that a minimum offer will send it to a Sedo auction. What I am hearing is a demand for the convenience of a single thread or forum where these types of offers can be found easier. That in itself isn't wrong.
I think the concern from some of the staff is that an organized effort to launch Sedo auctions would encourage illegitimate bids, or that sellers would not be genuinely prepared to sell their domain at the minimum bid price.
As timphelan mentioned, this would have to be done in an open and honest manner, with guidelines of what is acceptable. Perhaps we could talk about some of those guidelines here and find some middle ground for us to work with.
Also waiting to hear back from Sedo to see if they have an opinion either way on the matter.
Definitely agreed Seeing their stand on this whole thing. And then also keeping our NamePros Experience Intact.... we can come up with nice rules and guidelines.
The best guideline I can think of is. That whoever messes up the system. He or she will be obviously be banned from sedo. But he or she can also face a lifetime Ban from NamePros. For making Namepros the grounds for their illegal actions. I think it justifies the actions.
This can be easily done. All those names that are posted for sending to auctions should be checked after sometime and then someone needs to keep tabs of which deals went through and which didn't. We can use the resolved action that is already built in into our forums. It might also involve working with sedo representatives. But maybe.
I am happy. In fact I also own many domain names. So I am just giving my opinions on unbiased grounds.
that I don't know.
