I say in all sincerity that I had hoped I was the most skeptical and critical about the farce that DM put up for .tv.
I have said time and time again that when it comes to .tv I SINCERELY hope that their contract is NOT renewed. They have jumbled and fumbled it since they got it, channel me is a joke at best, and they are further doing less then nothing with their platform for channel me. The revenue sharing being the biggest farce of them all.
While I understand they have their hands tied with Verisign, my dream is that Verisign themselves loses the contract to godaddy if that was possible.
You want to see the extension take hold out side of development and become a domainers plaything as well as having a realistic pricing structure, then let Bob Parsons come in and do the negotiating.
I know people cringe at this idea, but I for one would LOVE to see both developers AND domainers want to play with .tv.
Right now the only domainers really involved with it are here, and they are critical of it. The main reasons are pricing and advertisement of the extension. While it may be up to Verisign, the REALITY is that Demand is the face of it. Demand and Enom look bad BECAUSE of it, not because they are truly at fault.
Why on earth do you all think they are slowly distancing themselves from being the face of it? Why do you think they are NOT advertising it heavily or pouring huge gobs of money into new developments of channel me all the time? Why do you think they aren't running huge ad campaigns?
They could make fortunes of fees, but they aren't. Because as much as I dislike them, I recognize that they are smart enough that they don't want to completely spoil the enom registrar image touting an extension that is muddy at best and that they really do not have control over.
I hate them and what they have NOT done, but I respect the fact that they seem to have recognized their mistake and are backing out of the room slowly but with small steps and caution.
Right on Dottie because Verisign owns the DOT TV corp, unless someone coming to offer them millions for the company (they paid $45 million in 2002) Verisign is in control of the extension.
To quote Pink Floyd
And then the one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
__________________ Maine.TVWrestle.TV Farts.TVMINDWRECKER.TV
If Dot Com is King then Dot TV will be the Queen, and I would rather be caught making out with the Queen...
Ray the purpose of that thread is to watch the video and listen to what Richard says. I think the video interview speaks for itself as what was being sold and promoted.
I think people should watch it and see the sales pitch, there is no debate, I remembered this video specifically and that is why I looked it up. At about 4:00 minutes you hear Richard on video saying that "the goal is to make .tv the second largest tld"
I have not seen anything publicly in the last 8-10 months that shows Demand Media has done this to make .tv the second most popular tld.
That does not mean they are not doing anything behind the scenes, but I have not seen anything significant as far as public promotion.
Kevin, you did the interview lol
.TV has not had the push publicly that this sales pitch in the video is giving.
There is no debate here and I have nothing personal against Richard or Quinn but there is still no debate.
In the past year since a few months after May 1, 2007 .TV has not had the public push from Demand Media that was promised in videos like this.
__________________ Maine.TVWrestle.TV Farts.TVMINDWRECKER.TV
If Dot Com is King then Dot TV will be the Queen, and I would rather be caught making out with the Queen...
Last edited by MINDWRECKER.TV : 04-08-2008 at 03:26 PM.
However, it is also fair to point out that when James co-owned Allthings.tv he thought he had a job with Demand Media only to be strung along over a period of time and then they did not come through for him as promised. I know this left a bad taste in james' mouth.
If we are all questioning transparency then certainly it is fair to note that since that time James has been at least as critical if not more so of DM then anyone else on this forum.[/QUOTE]
Right on a couple of points, wrong on some others...
I do not believe I have been the MOST critical if you talk about the sheer volume of times people have had a go at DM,
Yesterdays post was an anniversary post - whats dm done for the extension in the last year!!???
Correct it left a bitter taste when we were strung along by DM as far as sponsorship was concerrned.
We offered them a fantastic business model. A company that would actually go out there and PROMOTE the extension....Imagine that??!! They could spend their time swallowing up .com companies and let us get on with promoting .TV.
I think both me and Kevin were strung along in the respectr that we were told that it was gonna come for us down the line, Quinn just needed to get it signed off!!
Like Kevin has said and I will concur, there is no personal feud here, Kevin is a good guy with a good heart....we justsometimes dont see eye to eye
i watched the video and all i see lots of nodding of the head by allthings i counted
400 times....is there any other videos were the interviewer put him on the spot a lot better .
Screw that. I want to see more videos of allthings nodding his head. Going to make a tribute video and put it on my channelme site and make millions off the ads.
Yeah....and more videos of Quinn Daly. No wonder nothing's getting done at Demand Media. And please, can we get a little higher camera angle on her next interview?
__________________ MicroGuy.net - the bumbling misadventures of an aging domainer. () .: registrar of the stars >> DynaDot
How does this add anything of value? Talk about wanting to be at least somewhat professional or how this forum is perceived by outsiders. This wreaks of low class juvenile nonsense IMO.
It is one thing to discuss the merits of DM, Verisign or anything related to the extension but to make comments about professional executives of DM and there appearance like this only perpetuates the feeling that Name Pros is filled with people that lack proper business sense or or business etiquette IMO.
Last edited by poodleman : 04-08-2008 at 04:22 PM.
In my wildest dreams, I never envisioned getting a lecture on "proper business etiquette" from someone calling himself "Poodleman". Take a Chill Pill Rover.
__________________ MicroGuy.net - the bumbling misadventures of an aging domainer. () .: registrar of the stars >> DynaDot
If the only attitude we can have around here is of uptight business people who have no sense of humor, and hesitate to say even anything remotely out of line.....thanks but I want no part of it.
May as well just start reprimanding people for making jokes in corporate offices or chit-chatting by the water cooler.
Jeez, half the reason people are so pissed offed in here is because no one can say a friggin word without being jumped on by 4 other people that have different opinions.
Well Bulldog I am not sure who you are directing that at, if its me I think I let a lot of it go, I have never said anything to you ever have I ? yet I get lots of complaints in pm about you joking in other peoples threads, I have had people request I delete your comments in their threads or they no longer wish to post here. I have no problem with your remarks but some people do. That is just an example.
Now there also is a breakroom on this forum where people can go tell jokes, get jiggy whatever they like. Now some say "Well I only go to the .tv section" That is no ones elses fault IMO. This is a big forum many areas there is a reason there are sections on the forum.
Now let's look at this right here Greg made a comment, Poodle thinks its low class nonsense. You think its fine. SO where do we go from here, all 3 of you are equal members here so what should we do in your opinion ?
Nope, not directed at you. If people want my comments deleted because they are not related to the thread, I have no problem with it.
If they are pertinent, and relevant, then they should stay. I apologize if people don't like humor, but I won't lose sleep over it.
What should be done about it? I can't answer that as I don't make the rules.
My personal opinion is that we are not, and should not become so uptight that we can no longer speak freely.
Judging by some of the comments in this thread, it is painfully obvious that there are people here who think we should boot step in and never make ANY remarks out of line with the thinking of those that think they know everything, anything, and all things and that the rest of us are mere annoyances who screw up their forum by daring to speak opinion that do not allign with what they believe to be the 10 rigid rules of the tv section.
I know that you personally do not see it that way, and I for one appreciate the fact that this forum is a little loose and we are allowed to comment what we think.
If it ever stops being that and we are no longer allowed to speak our minds.....well, that's when the forum loses members. They will go somewhere where they can speak their minds, or they will end up like sheep to the slaughter because they never know that there are people with different views on the subject. Views that very much do need to be said because without them, people would blindly spend money on things they know not enough about.
Finally, if someone doesn't want me to post in their thread, by all means PM me and I will make sure I avoid them and anything they say. It really doesn't matter to me at this point.
I personally like being able to banter with like minded people around here, and I think those comments like Microguys are good for the cause. They make people step back and take a look at themselves and the fact that this is not life and death, it is a business. If it is that dire for those that don't want any type of nonsense comments or banter, or a little jab here and there....then that person needs to get out of the domain business because they will die of a heart attack before they make their first big sale.
Thank you Bulldog, and I agree it just becomes more and more of a grind with what people want and what others do not think should be allowed to be on here.
Well thank you its not like that, not complaining I have no problem with keeping up, I am up 20 hours a day usually, its that I think nothing of substance is getting done. We are not seeing great sales or great development. I mean Bands.tv is awesome but it is the only exciting thing I have seen in awhile. Sales side here is totally quiet. Frustrating actually.
Have to concur with the BullDog. I for one am not an anal-retentive and would not be on a forum that is.
Loosen up, and that means the "gods-on-High" as well, that "don't have to explain to us why they do things", if you catch my drift.
BTW, Ray, my props to you for a sometimes tireless and seemingly thankless job that you do. You are a fair and square guy and i respect and thank you for that.
Last edited by freedom30 : 04-08-2008 at 09:35 PM.
Greg I am not knocking you or Bulldog, its like someone told me today there is not going to be the perfect balance, you have established some people plain do not like one another, and away from that there are ideologies that are just the polar opposite. Trying to find a perfect balance (WHICH IS A FLAW OF MINE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE BALANCE IS THE KEY) is impossible.
Look at this thread, just one thread.
Allthings.tv called the op unprofessional
The op disagreed 100 %
KUBATIVITY took great exception to ALLthings.tv post and called for it to be deleted
Poodle Called Greg's post low class nonsense
Bulldog scoffed at that and thought it was perfectly fine
Freedom Championed Allthings.tv post
Rodash championed the op
Now is everyone entitled to their opinion here ? IMO yes
SO we are going to have threads like this because there are people with ideological differences.
I had someone call me an idiot, and the forum kindergarten for allowing the Alphabet thread. So it just goes on and on, with no real business getting done.
)
