Moniker auction terms Outrageous - Page 10

***Corey*** · 08-09-2008, 11:43 PM

one solution is not to use them.

Cheers
Corey

.h2o. · 08-20-2008, 01:57 PM

I'm glad I know about this. I don't think I ever want to use them for auctioning domains.

MonikerMaurie · 08-20-2008, 04:14 PM

The contract that was posted in this thread is not the current agreement. Regardless if any seller feels the current agreement is too restrictive, they can contact their Account Executive and some modifications can be made. The auto renewal clause was put in there for convenience so that the same customer wouldn't need to sign 15 agreements per year, 1 for each auction. However I can tell you the purpose of some of the restrictions are there is because Moniker deserves to be paid when it is our promotion and auction that leads to the sales. We are not trying to hold your domains ransom as some are suggesting and like others have said anyone that does not want to sell names at Moniker/Snapnames doesn't have to. However most auction houses with any experience and track record require an exclusivity period.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/449617-moniker-auction-terms-outrageous.html

Feel free to email or PM me if you have any questions.

Regards,
John Mauriello
jmauriello@moniker.com
954-861-3536
800-688-6311 Ext. 3536
FAX: 954-984-0209
ICQ: 341620056 AIM: monikermaurie
MSN: jmauriello@gmail.com

flamewalker · 08-20-2008, 04:23 PM

There are a lot of troubling restrictions and clauses in there that will and have driven many prospects off... and no auction house has an auto renew clause of the sort that I am aware of, nor has near the one-sidedness to them that your (supposedly old) one does.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=449617

Nobody is complaining that you shouldn't get your cut if your auction is was led to the sale. Nobody likes the super-one-sidedness and harshness of the contract (at least the old one). Obviously some people have read it and know exactly what to expect, and for some names is worth it.

Hopefully you have toned your "new" version down a lot based on the complaints and points made here. If so, this thread has served its purpose. Only time will tell.

FPForum · 08-20-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by flamewalker

There are a lot of troubling restrictions and clauses in there that will and have driven many prospects off... and no auction house has an auto renew clause of the sort that I am aware of, nor has near the one-sidedness to them that your (supposedly old) one does.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=449617

Nobody is complaining that you shouldn't get your cut if your auction is was led to the sale. Nobody likes the super-one-sidedness and harshness of the contract (at least the old one). Obviously some people have read it and know exactly what to expect, and for some names is worth it.

Hopefully you have toned your "new" version down a lot based on the complaints and points made here. If so, this thread has served its purpose. Only time will tell.

Couldn't have said it better myself. After reading that last contract I would not be putting any names for sale at moniker. Of course I agree, they have the networks, if they lead to the sales it's only fair they get their cut and practically every domainer out there agrees with that and has no problem with it. I myself have not read the latest agreement to look for new changes, but time will tell!

flamewalker · 08-20-2008, 08:01 PM

For those interested, https://www.snapnames.com/domainsales/terms.action
I don't see a lot being changed from the old one and still contains the ridiculous auto renewal...

kellie · 08-26-2008, 05:10 PM

FYI: New 60 day exclusivity period: http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php...main-auctions/

copper · 08-26-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by kellie

FYI: New 60 day exclusivity period: http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php...main-auctions/

WOW
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=449617
WOW
WOW

Congrats to all domainers!!!

flamewalker · 08-26-2008, 07:42 PM

And THAT, friends, is the power of the marketplace. They said it was because of their relationship with Snap, but I call BS. If people didn't stop submitting names after this, and I'm sure others, pointing out the flaws of the contract, it wouldn't have changed. They just won't admit it.

Doesn't matter, we all know the real reasons

npcomplete · 08-28-2008, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by flamewalker

And THAT, friends, is the power of the marketplace. They said it was because of their relationship with Snap, but I call BS. If people didn't stop submitting names after this, and I'm sure others, pointing out the flaws of the contract, it wouldn't have changed. They just won't admit it.

Doesn't matter, we all know the real reasons

And they still have that stupid a$$ autorenewal clause in their lousy contract:

Quote:

from: https://www.snapnames.com/domainsales/terms.action

...snip...
To avoid resubmission of names for multiple auctions and events, if, at the time of submission of a name, the seller of the name elects to have any name which is not sold at a particular auction to be sold in subsequent auctions run by Moniker/SnapNames, the Exclusive Moniker Sale Period will automatically renew at the end of each term unless Seller notifies Moniker/SnapNames in writing within 15 days of expiration of the Exclusive Moniker Sale Period that it is terminating such period.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=449617
...snip...

flamewalker · 08-28-2008, 03:13 PM

One step at a time

Can't expect to move the titanic overnight

08-09-2008, 11:43 PM	#226 (permalink)
*Corey* Business Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 4,201	one solution is not to use them. Cheers Corey __________________ ☆ Occupy.TV website/domain name for sale!

08-20-2008, 04:14 PM	#228 (permalink)
MonikerMaurie NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 65	The contract that was posted in this thread is not the current agreement. Regardless if any seller feels the current agreement is too restrictive, they can contact their Account Executive and some modifications can be made. The auto renewal clause was put in there for convenience so that the same customer wouldn't need to sign 15 agreements per year, 1 for each auction. However I can tell you the purpose of some of the restrictions are there is because Moniker deserves to be paid when it is our promotion and auction that leads to the sales. We are not trying to hold your domains ransom as some are suggesting and like others have said anyone that does not want to sell names at Moniker/Snapnames doesn't have to. However most auction houses with any experience and track record require an exclusivity period. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/449617-moniker-auction-terms-outrageous.html Feel free to email or PM me if you have any questions. Regards, John Mauriello jmauriello@moniker.com 954-861-3536 800-688-6311 Ext. 3536 FAX: 954-984-0209 ICQ: 341620056 AIM: monikermaurie MSN: jmauriello@gmail.com Last edited by MonikerMaurie; 08-20-2008 at 05:34 PM.

08-20-2008, 04:23 PM	#229 (permalink)
flamewalker NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 604	There are a lot of troubling restrictions and clauses in there that will and have driven many prospects off... and no auction house has an auto renew clause of the sort that I am aware of, nor has near the one-sidedness to them that your (supposedly old) one does. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=449617 Nobody is complaining that you shouldn't get your cut if your auction is was led to the sale. Nobody likes the super-one-sidedness and harshness of the contract (at least the old one). Obviously some people have read it and know exactly what to expect, and for some names is worth it. Hopefully you have toned your "new" version down a lot based on the complaints and points made here. If so, this thread has served its purpose. Only time will tell. __________________ My Domain Portfolio/Domains for sale \| MASS Del.Icio.US Submission Get daily premium drop lists! DropHistory.Com My Blog: www.flamewalker.info

08-20-2008, 08:01 PM	#231 (permalink)
flamewalker NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 604	For those interested, https://www.snapnames.com/domainsales/terms.action I don't see a lot being changed from the old one and still contains the ridiculous auto renewal... __________________ My Domain Portfolio/Domains for sale \| MASS Del.Icio.US Submission Get daily premium drop lists! DropHistory.Com My Blog: www.flamewalker.info

08-26-2008, 07:42 PM	#234 (permalink)
flamewalker NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 604	And THAT, friends, is the power of the marketplace. They said it was because of their relationship with Snap, but I call BS. If people didn't stop submitting names after this, and I'm sure others, pointing out the flaws of the contract, it wouldn't have changed. They just won't admit it. Doesn't matter, we all know the real reasons __________________ My Domain Portfolio/Domains for sale \| MASS Del.Icio.US Submission Get daily premium drop lists! DropHistory.Com My Blog: www.flamewalker.info

08-20-2008, 01:57 PM	#227 (permalink)
.h2o. NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 542	I'm glad I know about this. I don't think I ever want to use them for auctioning domains.

08-26-2008, 05:10 PM	#232 (permalink)
kellie NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 160	FYI: New 60 day exclusivity period: http://www.elliotsblog.com/index.php...main-auctions/

08-28-2008, 03:13 PM	#236 (permalink)
flamewalker NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 604	One step at a time Can't expect to move the titanic overnight __________________ My Domain Portfolio/Domains for sale \| MASS Del.Icio.US Submission Get daily premium drop lists! DropHistory.Com My Blog: www.flamewalker.info

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)