Warning: In Regards to Stolen Domains - Page 2

Yofie · 03-09-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by XJ

Thanks for the infos. I got one more question: What about domains that sell via sedo and their escrow system? Obviously there is less chance for due diligence. Do you have any insights for that as well?

Any domain that is Listed by an entity "could" be a stolen domain. So it's best to do your homework for Every Domain! Not only for your safety, but to prevent a massive headache if the domain happened to be stolen.

Charley · 03-10-2008, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by XJ

What about domains that sell via sedo and their escrow system?

Those are legitimate transactions.

**-Nick-** · 03-10-2008, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by mplswifi

he was on DNF a week or so ago.. also was a mod at Nameslot.. I questioned their choice and was contacted by another mod (np member) who was going to make the owners aware.. not sure what happened after that.. I knew something was fishy with him the first 10 mins he joined ..was in chat and myself and another member i remember Pm'd each other questioning his motives

Yes he is already banned and IP range blocked.

xrvel · 03-10-2008, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Earthian

if you got a Gmail account , it is a good idea to check your filters ...

Thank you for the suggestion.
I will check my filter

- Kurniawan.

Earthian · 03-11-2008, 03:05 AM

XJ - since a person that has stolen a domain has control over it , he can list it on any site to sell it ... while the escrow transaction would be secure , the domain actually would be stolen ... even though the buyer would have been scammed too (and out of money) , since domains are unique and rather easily traceable to the original owner , it is common practice that the domains get returned to the original owner and the buyer then tries to find the scammer to get his money back ...

in many cases , some checking before a domain purchase is advised ... for example (but not limited to) a simple Google search of the domain (maybe together with the word stolen or scam) might turn up some results if the domain is stolen and reported/mentioned somewhere (eg. a forum or blog)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/441941-warning-in-regards-to-stolen-domains.html

xrvel - "better safe than sorry"

casty23 · 05-03-2008, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Yofie

Nothing is ever 100% safe. You can use escrow and if the domain you purchased was stolen, yes, you will lose the domain, because the rightful owner did not sell it to you and it's also likely you will NOT get your money back either. Here is a recent story of when this happened. It's stated at the bottom of the story about not getting the money back.

Now each case would be unique via Escrow, but you will NOT get your money back most of the time. At times, you can get your money back, but it can be after a very long period of time.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=441941

If you are the Seller, the money will be protected the most. So when you are selling, Escrow is near 100% safe route to go.

wow this thread is a wakeup call. I never realized that even escrow isn't always 100% safe.

rafaelrls · 05-06-2008, 11:15 AM

this world is at the end. Even domains are stolen these days

dinopermana · 05-09-2008, 09:41 PM

oh my god, the domain world came crazy

**Dave Zan** · 05-10-2008, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by casty23

I never realized that even escrow isn't always 100% safe.

There's no 100% safe system, period.

foster · 05-30-2008, 12:57 PM

stealing domain names......
a person would have to be an idiot
everything is so tracable

traceble

traceable

no i did not steal any
damn keyboard

popopo · 06-11-2008, 01:14 AM

this sounds awful...

arpmn · 06-22-2008, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Earthian

regarding how the scammers do it ...
some of the scams were done through a Gmail exploit ...

some scammers set up some kind of program that when a person visited a site (while being logged-in in his Google account) the program set up a filter in Gmail that redirected emails of the victim to the scammer's email account ...

then he went to the registrar of a good domain of the victim and initiated a forgot-my-password+sent-password-to-email-account procedure ... the email duplicated through the filter ... and the scammer got access to the account at the registrar ... then he transferred the domain(s) to his account (or changed the registrar account password and sold the domains through that account so that no changes would appear in the whois that might alarm prospective buyers) and hastily tried to sell the domains ...

a little after this exploit became known , it was said that Google has somehow closed the exploit ... but , also it is believed that many people that had became victims did not delete the filters in their Gmail account (even after Google mentioned that it stopped the exploit) , therefore their emails were still forwarded) ... if you got a Gmail account , it is a good idea to check your filters ...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=441941

Yikes. I use a Gmail account for all my domain WHOIS info. I just checked. My filters are fine. But time to change the email account to one of my domains. I'll just forward it to Gmail. Helps with WHOIS spammers. Thanks for the info.

Peter · 06-22-2008, 12:07 PM

arpmn just a note. the Gmail security whole that was being used was repaired some time ago.

zabijaq · 09-08-2008, 08:32 AM

risky biz :\

rosa2 · 09-08-2008, 01:33 PM

ok...

I see

bargaindomains · 09-13-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Spade

I have posted the domain names that were stolen in the Adult Section, here is a link for those interested:

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.p...03#post2600203

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=441941
link doesnt work for me

and whats the actual time span this scam occured? september 08?

alien51 · 11-16-2008, 08:13 AM

Just reacting to that Gmail hack mentioned here, my own Gmail account was hacked early this year too. Fortunately, I created that specific Gmail account just for use in checking out Google's Lively 3D World (www.lively.com). I remembered visiting user rooms in there and chatting, and nothing else. After a few days, I couldn't login to my Gmail account anymore. Password won't work. I followed the procedure in requesting a password reset, and it was reset. When I checked my Inbox, it was filled with mailing list messages from a discussion site exchanging porn pics. I changed my password and even changed the challenge question/answer part. To my surprise, I could not login to the same account the next day. When I checked the challenge question to reset the password, the question was changed!!!!

I emailed Google about it. They said they could not find anything wrong with my Gmail account. So i gave up. I tried logging in again after a week, but then a Google message appears saying Google had decided to disable the Gmail account in question. So there goes Gmail... a name you're supposed to trust.

03-11-2008, 03:05 AM	#30 (permalink)
Earthian NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 919	XJ - since a person that has stolen a domain has control over it , he can list it on any site to sell it ... while the escrow transaction would be secure , the domain actually would be stolen ... even though the buyer would have been scammed too (and out of money) , since domains are unique and rather easily traceable to the original owner , it is common practice that the domains get returned to the original owner and the buyer then tries to find the scammer to get his money back ... in many cases , some checking before a domain purchase is advised ... for example (but not limited to) a simple Google search of the domain (maybe together with the word stolen or scam) might turn up some results if the domain is stolen and reported/mentioned somewhere (eg. a forum or blog) ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/441941-warning-in-regards-to-stolen-domains.html xrvel - "better safe than sorry" __________________ ██__________██ ██____e-vj____██ ██__________██

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05-30-2008, 12:57 PM	#35 (permalink)
foster New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11	stealing domain names...... a person would have to be an idiot everything is so tracable traceble traceable no i did not steal any damn keyboard

09-08-2008, 08:32 AM	#39 (permalink)
zabijaq Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 271	risky biz :\

09-08-2008, 01:33 PM	#40 (permalink)
rosa2 Account Closed Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5	ok... I see

11-16-2008, 08:13 AM	#42 (permalink)
alien51 NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sector 7G, Alpha Centauri Posts: 728	Just reacting to that Gmail hack mentioned here, my own Gmail account was hacked early this year too. Fortunately, I created that specific Gmail account just for use in checking out Google's Lively 3D World (www.lively.com). I remembered visiting user rooms in there and chatting, and nothing else. After a few days, I couldn't login to my Gmail account anymore. Password won't work. I followed the procedure in requesting a password reset, and it was reset. When I checked my Inbox, it was filled with mailing list messages from a discussion site exchanging porn pics. I changed my password and even changed the challenge question/answer part. To my surprise, I could not login to the same account the next day. When I checked the challenge question to reset the password, the question was changed!!!! I emailed Google about it. They said they could not find anything wrong with my Gmail account. So i gave up. I tried logging in again after a week, but then a Google message appears saying Google had decided to disable the Gmail account in question. So there goes Gmail... a name you're supposed to trust.

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