New Bill in US Senate Threatens Domain Registrants! - Page 6

-NC- · 03-23-2008, 04:15 PM

No obvious improvements jump out at me, it's concise, informative and makes it clear* what actions can be taken.

It seems to me that points 2 ( write to senators ) and 3 ( contribute to ICA legal/lobbying costs ) are the most important actions that everyone** needs to take.

* The ica donation checkout process is a bit clunky
** Huge thanks to all you domainers in the USA who take the time to write to your senator. Not sure who us internationals can write to. I suspect that even if this bill is defeated, as long as the registry is in the hands of a company/organisation which can be compelled by the legislation of a single government, we will see new variations of it in the future.

Mark · 03-24-2008, 10:11 AM

It looks Great -RJ-

And for all of you acting like -RJ- was setting on his hands here .... Shame on you.
It was being discussed already. I don't think you'll find many others in this Industry that cares as much about our rights or his fellow domainers than -RJ- ....

******

Several people on another Board have been discussing the fact that not all people interested in this Bill are within the U.S. and Also not all have extra cash around to spend on memberships and donations.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/441421-new-bill-us-senate-threatens-domain.html
One suggestion I seen is something I've said myself in the past when there was something like the Tsunami's and other natural disasters we've all witnessed.
Donating links/traffic/blog posts or whatever you can toward awareness is just as good IMO. If you see it on Digg or Stumbleupon etc ... Vote for it or make a post !
People mention Boycotts above .... that works to - But also let those Companies know WHY you're doing so .... They all have contact pages or info somewhere - Contact them.

IAmAllanShore · 03-24-2008, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mark

One suggestion I seen is something I've said myself in the past when there was something like the Tsunami's and other natural disasters we've all witnessed.
Donating links/traffic/blog posts or whatever you can toward awareness is ju

Special "Charity Ribbon," perhaps? Perhaps a little title for the user's postbit for a certain level $NP donation.

Just ideas here, but a way that the little fish can still contribute and be recognized for doing so.

-Allan

GeoOwners · 03-24-2008, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by -RJ-

I have drafted a NamePros Member Plan-of-Action. Please review and comment, with suggestions on ways to improve upon it. I hope to send this out to the entire membership within the next few days.

Link: http://www.namepros.com/snowebill.php

That's a good post RJ...my suggestions are:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=441421

-some peeps may miss the thread, put a message up like the one lately about the LLLL.com scammers.

-This may not be able to be pulled off BUT

I propose a "biggest pledger" or whatever, contest between namepros and dnf. members choose which side to contribute to with ALL monies going to ICA and bragging rights to the winning forum...could be a fun way to get some $$$buzz going.

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JayyWizz · 03-25-2008, 11:40 PM

So if jos smoe has a lil shop in the middle of nowhere named 123xyz they can really take any domain name or domain with it's likeness? This is crazy whats next? An email like: This is to inform you that we have have been monitoring your website history and noticed you have visited blahblah.com store 25 times last week without buying anything. Is anything out of bounds?

Cush · 03-26-2008, 12:07 AM

I have a question, call me stupid, but if Company A in the USA sees the domain name abc.com and decide that they want it, but the owner is based in a country far outside the USA, does this matter? If the Legal owner is a different country than Company A, can any legal action occur?

-NC- · 03-26-2008, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Cush

If the Legal owner is a different country than Company A, can any legal action occur?

- If the registrar is in the US, they can be compelled to give up the domain.
- The .com registry is run by Verisign, a US company subject to US laws.

DebacleX · 04-01-2008, 02:25 PM

So, as long as your domain doesn't have a trademarked name in it, and has real WhoIS info, you're in the clear?

EbookLover · 04-01-2008, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by DebacleX

So, as long as your domain doesn't have a trademarked name in it, and has real WhoIS info, you're in the clear?

Uuum. That's the way it's been for many years now.

Cicero · 05-04-2008, 12:39 AM

This bill can have a worldwide ripple effect.
However I seem to support the move against typos of corporations as they INDEED mislead.

Sam · 06-11-2008, 03:53 AM

This is exactly why you divest into cctlds.

With the exception of a very few vigilante registry's, no names get taken away!!

tim100 · 07-06-2008, 04:47 PM

In response to:
Please sign the petition at http://www.SnoweBill.com!

I want to so much! But the above site simply asks me to donate money to ICA. I tried their search find the petition to sign...did not lead me anywhere. Can I sign this petition without having to spend money?

nicedomains · 07-06-2008, 09:07 PM

I believe the petition period is over..

tim100 · 07-09-2008, 01:13 PM

Oh. Thanks for informing me, nicedomains. I just joined the day or before I asked the question.

domaino · 08-22-2008, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by labrocca

And I hope that's the case. I would LOVE to see the industry tightened up. It would get rid of many squatters and amatuers that have no idea how to develop or create their own brand. We can't forever allow domain registrations to people that have no intention of doing something viable with the name other than sell it or create parking revenue. That's NOT the intention of the internet. Domainers for the most part are cyber squatters...that's just the plain truth of it. I deal with it..I do it. I play the game. However...I realize it's a dangerous game often played with other peoples intellectual property. It's also unfair to those truly wishing to create actual niche or space on the web for themselves.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=441421

I feel bad for domainers that have large undeveloped portfolios. Some major players I know are working diligently to protect their domains by actually creating sites and real content. That's how it SHOULD be done. Guys like Rick Schwartz have simply gamed the internet and it's users to create wealth based on nothing. Good for them...bad for the internet. Sedo...imho should be shut down along with every parking company. Parking has been the worst thing for the internet experience. It has created a large section of domains that simply are useless.

Your motives are pure and to be honest, in an ideal world I would love this to be the case. But we are not living in an ideal world. This concept you are speaking of could just as easily be applied to Real Estate or any other industry for that matter. What RIGHT does a property tycoon have to sit on land when it could be put to better use by another party?

I understand what you're saying and trust me, I would love to see all parties reach a suitable solution that would allow the top domains to realise their maximum potential (after all, I love domains, that's why I'm here), but this is NOT the way. It's tantamount in many respects to retrospective taxation.

useless · 09-30-2008, 07:20 AM

okie..i am from India ...and hold many .net and .org and .in which r typos ....so how will this effect me or ppl in similar situation .....

Gayan · 10-28-2008, 03:39 AM

Sounds like its the eminent domain stuff they were talking about a few years ago where a big business can take your property if its suited for business.

MJ · 11-01-2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

And I hope that's the case. I would LOVE to see the industry tightened up. It would get rid of many squatters and amatuers that have no idea how to develop or create their own brand. We can't forever allow domain registrations to people that have no intention of doing something viable with the name other than sell it or create parking revenue. That's NOT the intention of the internet. Domainers for the most part are cyber squatters...that's just the plain truth of it. I deal with it..I do it. I play the game. However...I realize it's a dangerous game often played with other peoples intellectual property. It's also unfair to those truly wishing to create actual niche or space on the web for themselves.

Wow.. very well said. Very well said.

.Andy · 01-31-2009, 08:28 PM

Any word on how the new pres stands on this bill or its status?

jarmas · 02-02-2009, 07:27 AM

Yeah I am curious as well to the outcome of this bill. Can someone please give an update, would greatly appreciate that! Thanks!

~ The 34 Year Buzz!! · 02-07-2009, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by jarmas

Yeah I am curious as well to the outcome of this bill. Can someone please give an update, would greatly appreciate that! Thanks!

Stalled in Committee for now
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=441421
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2661/show
Let's hope it stays dead...

maximum · 02-07-2009, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by ~ The 34 Year Buzz!!

Stalled in Committee for now
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=441421
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2661/show
Let's hope it stays dead...

Actually it is dead

. Any bill that does not pass during the current congressional session they are introduced in (few legal exceptions) are automatically removed from the record (technically, still recorded, but are assumed as if voted against) and become mute. However, nothing prevents the sponsors from trying to reintroduce it as another bill number later. To-date, they have not done so for the 111th Session of Congress (2009-2010);which, basically, means they would have to start over again as if it were never introduced, practically.

~ The 34 Year Buzz!! · 02-07-2009, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by maximum

Actually it is dead

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Sounds good to me, thanks.

jarmas · 02-09-2009, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the update guys!

mshel · 02-11-2009, 10:03 AM

Good news! Let's hope it stays dead!

03-23-2008, 04:15 PM	#126 (permalink)
-NC- Traveller Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yet another city Posts: 1,419	No obvious improvements jump out at me, it's concise, informative and makes it clear* what actions can be taken. It seems to me that points 2 ( write to senators ) and 3 ( contribute to ICA legal/lobbying costs ) are the most important actions that everyone** needs to take. * The ica donation checkout process is a bit clunky ** Huge thanks to all you domainers in the USA who take the time to write to your senator. Not sure who us internationals can write to. I suspect that even if this bill is defeated, as long as the registry is in the hands of a company/organisation which can be compelled by the legislation of a single government, we will see new variations of it in the future. __________________ NameCooler.com Last edited by -NC-; 03-23-2008 at 04:21 PM.

03-24-2008, 10:11 AM	#127 (permalink)
Mark Hi :) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NC Posts: 9,567	It looks Great -RJ- And for all of you acting like -RJ- was setting on his hands here .... Shame on you. It was being discussed already. I don't think you'll find many others in this Industry that cares as much about our rights or his fellow domainers than -RJ- .... ****** Several people on another Board have been discussing the fact that not all people interested in this Bill are within the U.S. and Also not all have extra cash around to spend on memberships and donations. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/441421-new-bill-us-senate-threatens-domain.html One suggestion I seen is something I've said myself in the past when there was something like the Tsunami's and other natural disasters we've all witnessed. Donating links/traffic/blog posts or whatever you can toward awareness is just as good IMO. If you see it on Digg or Stumbleupon etc ... Vote for it or make a post ! People mention Boycotts above .... that works to - But also let those Companies know WHY you're doing so .... They all have contact pages or info somewhere - Contact them. __________________ When the man at the door yelled "Alcohol , Tobacco , and Firearms" .... I just assumed it was a delivery !

03-26-2008, 12:07 AM	#131 (permalink)
Cush NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 128	I have a question, call me stupid, but if Company A in the USA sees the domain name abc.com and decide that they want it, but the owner is based in a country far outside the USA, does this matter? If the Legal owner is a different country than Company A, can any legal action occur? __________________ Debate Website - Debate about anything without signing up.

04-01-2008, 02:25 PM	#133 (permalink)
DebacleX Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newport, KY Posts: 1,445 Follow @debaclex	So, as long as your domain doesn't have a trademarked name in it, and has real WhoIS info, you're in the clear? __________________ www.politicalcartoon.info \| www.thebile.com

05-04-2008, 12:39 AM	#135 (permalink)
Cicero NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 207	This bill can have a worldwide ripple effect. However I seem to support the move against typos of corporations as they INDEED mislead. __________________ If you liked my post.. Please consider giving me a Rep ++ :love:. I am having a pretty low Reputation:( :hehe: Funkx.com - ★★ BRANDABLE ★★ Up for Grabs- $20 + CHEAP

03-25-2008, 11:40 PM	#130 (permalink)
JayyWizz New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 18 Follow @KomicalMizchief	So if jos smoe has a lil shop in the middle of nowhere named 123xyz they can really take any domain name or domain with it's likeness? This is crazy whats next? An email like: This is to inform you that we have have been monitoring your website history and noticed you have visited blahblah.com store 25 times last week without buying anything. Is anything out of bounds?

06-11-2008, 03:53 AM	#136 (permalink)
Sam Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,435	This is exactly why you divest into cctlds. With the exception of a very few vigilante registry's, no names get taken away!! __________________ SPECIAL: The World's BEST Single Letter Domain Sale! Lowest single letter price on the market! Starting at $799

07-06-2008, 04:47 PM	#137 (permalink)
tim100 New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	In response to: Please sign the petition at http://www.SnoweBill.com! I want to so much! But the above site simply asks me to donate money to ICA. I tried their search find the petition to sign...did not lead me anywhere. Can I sign this petition without having to spend money?

07-06-2008, 09:07 PM	#138 (permalink)
nicedomains NamePros Expert Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,254 Follow @NameTalent	I believe the petition period is over.. __________________ NameTalent.com Generate QR Codes

07-09-2008, 01:13 PM	#139 (permalink)
tim100 New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	Oh. Thanks for informing me, nicedomains. I just joined the day or before I asked the question.

09-30-2008, 07:20 AM	#141 (permalink)
useless NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: India Posts: 360	okie..i am from India ...and hold many .net and .org and .in which r typos ....so how will this effect me or ppl in similar situation .....

10-28-2008, 03:39 AM	#142 (permalink)
Gayan NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 30	Sounds like its the eminent domain stuff they were talking about a few years ago where a big business can take your property if its suited for business. __________________ Mon.itor.Us Domain Names Register Aptdomain %%- 24x7 Uptime Monitor Monitis _\\|/_

01-31-2009, 08:28 PM	#144 (permalink)
.Andy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 664	Any word on how the new pres stands on this bill or its status?

02-02-2009, 07:27 AM	#145 (permalink)
jarmas NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 371	Yeah I am curious as well to the outcome of this bill. Can someone please give an update, would greatly appreciate that! Thanks! __________________ WebProxyTalk Proxy Forum - A place for proxy webmasters to discuss and make money online with proxies. Web Proxy Talk Bypass Forum

02-09-2009, 07:24 PM	#149 (permalink)
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02-11-2009, 10:03 AM	#150 (permalink)
mshel New Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 13	Good news! Let's hope it stays dead! __________________ Harmonica.com for sale see: http://buy.harmonica.com

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