If you're willing to wait at least a year, maybe 2, You'd see a greater ROI on premium LLLL.nets i say. No doubt LLLL.coms are great, but from a ROI perspective i'd go with .nets
generics are good but u cant always even sell them on a forum.
cheap premium LLL.net are a better bet
the best longterm investment though if you want an enduser for a letter combo and cant afford the LLL.com is
L-L-L.com & then LLLL.com (with the last letter being L or something useful)
both these options are still very cheap in the reseller world & will offer great returns
Agreed. You can still get quad premium .nets for $9-$10 which makes them a pretty good candidate for exceptional ROI over the next year.
I agree that the best investment is certainly a higher quality LLLL.com/L-L-L.com ending in a useful letter. Unfortunately, most of the holders of these types of names are starting to wake up and realize a name ending in L, A, C, O, etc is a heck of alot better than that same name with Q as a last letter, even if the former has a Q elsewhere in the name...
For Canadians, I see LL/LLL.ca appreciating considerably over the next year. I was really torn between LLLL.coms and LLL.ca back when I made my investment in LLLL.coms... Funny enough, they turned out almost identically (in terms of ROI).
If you had X amount of money to invest, which of the following would you buy the most of until your budget ran out?
(Put in order of purchase priority.)
LLLL.com (all premium letters)
LLLL.com (3 premium letters)
LLLL.com (2 or less premium letters)
LLLL.net (all premium letters)
LLLL.net (3 premium letters)
LLLL.net (2 or less premium letters)
LLL.com (assuming your budget was big enough)
L-L-L.com (ending in L, A, C, O)
LLLL.com (ending in L, A, C, O)
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Remember we are not talking the current values of these domains, but how well we think they will increase in value.
On gut feeling alone, I would go with
LLLL.com (2 or less premium letters)
LLLL.com (3 premium letters)
LLLL.net (all premium letters)
LLLL.com (all premium letters)
LLLL.net (3 premium letters)
LLLL.net (2 or less premium letters)
The rest I am too unfamiliar with to speculate on. Turns out there is a strange symmetry to my list above if you look for it.
But frankly while making this list it seems to me that it's all good! Good time for flippers I guess what with a lot of free-range domain types currently dying off.
I like your list, but everybody would give a different answer to that question... why don t you open a pool on a new thread? this might be interesting...
Good post, filter. I didn't even think of how these domain types are valued differently depending on how long you are willing to wait for your money.
Maybe! But it occurs to me what a weird situation this could create. For instance if we all start valuing a certain domain type for it's potential to increase in value, then people would start buying more of them, raise the prices, and then they would no longer be the best deals! Tricky business this is.
and those who know, will not say. And those who say, surely do not know ... if you know what I'm saying ...
Best thing to do if you're not sure might be to diversify a bit. Then you still have options to trade in and out of different sectors as more information becomes available.
I like bumping this thread.
LLLL.com market does seem to be somewhat flooded at the moment ....
Last year I purchased "Veup.com" at snap for $60, when I finaly got it parked at Sedo I noticed steady traffic at around 15-16k a month.
Two months later I flipped it at sedo for $1700. And that wasnt a enduser.
Howcome I know it wasnt a end-user?. Because I saw it resell for just a week ago at Sedo again, on auction, and it went for below $500.
I considered buying it again, but, I have enough LLLLs, and besides, i've earned enough profit on that one already .
I do not know why or how the guy that baught if for 1700 managed to sell it again for such a low price, my guess is that he was just unlucky with the sale. I for one would never do that.
I doubt very much that prices will decline alot in general, in the long run they will increase alot. Just my take on it.
Many good opinions in the thread, perhaps that wasnt intentional , considering bashstart topic, however, thats how it turned out huh :-).
Nice. How do you go about picking keywords that get you a good CTR for a random series of 4 letters? I've been struggling with this. Lots of visits on them, no one is clicking.
the domains that receive more traffic where sites in the past. I tried to fine tuning the keyword according to the original site (check archive.org to see what the site looked like in the past). Often the keyword don t pay you top rates (from 0.02 to 0.30), but at least you get clicks.
Important: if you park your domains you could have different results with different parking companies with the same domain...
personally I would be more inclined to buy LLLL.com in the second-hand market rather than purchase LLLL.net at reg fee. However, the .net countdown is a good thing for the value appreciation of the .coms so each to his own. Also, if the .net countdown is judged a success at end, I think we should expect a serious assault on .org and .info to follow on.
This morning, I sold a package of 5 LLLL.net for $55 ... Some nice ones that I regged in December. Total profit (after PayPal fees) about $21 ... So call it approximately 90% ROI. The same $31 I spent on reg fees if invested in LLLL.com in December might have yielded closer to 200% ROI today.
Three or six months out though, who knows ... It's good to have options - and I don't mind giving up some potential ROI for the sake of diversification, as well as to catch the possibility of bigger upside in the short term. Just pick the ones that you like, whether they're LLLL.net or LLLL.com - don't overextend yourself, be ready to hold both for a while - and try to enjoy riding the rollercoaster through the little ups and downs on the way to the top (I strongly suspect both will end up quite a bit higher than they are right now - but may be an interesting ride on the way ...)
would you mind in telling where you are parking them Marco?
i noticed you told some of them were sites in the past
thats a great statement made in the beginning of this thread... imagine what will happen in the years to come
this is the most important thing people must have in mind
although china and india are the great players in this game we cant forget other countries with large population such as brazil and russia; africa will be in the internet as well
thats why i dont feel mad when i read threads like this
i just dont agree and advice people not to sell for $250 as they wouldnt be selling their names; they would be giving their names to the new owner
if we had many drops in sep/oct dont worry people...
i will help to keep all LLLL dot com reg'd
i would go with (talking about ROI), always and only dot com
LLLL.com (with 3 premium letters)
LLLL.com (with 2 premium letters)
LLLL.com (quad premium)
LLLL.com (ending in L, A, C, O; assuming they are quad premium as well, otherwise i would go with these ones beforequad premium)
LLL.com (assuming your budget was big enough)
i also assume you are talking about 2-3 years ROI but if you are talking about 5+ years ROI i would go with L-L-L dot com (they are forgotten, you can buy premium ones very cheap right now and the end-users sales are happening)
I had never heard about CVCVs and VCVCs until most of my LLLL stash was bought. Needless to say I have few of those, and those have a Y.
Now comes "ending in L, A, C, O". LACO are nearly 1/4 of the premium letters - the letters I deliberately tried to include in the domains that I bought. I just checked: 7% of my LLLL.coms end in one of those letters.
I am not complaining, I have a nice group of LLLL.coms. But there were things that I missed.
Is this LACO thing based on your price research Reece? Are there other letters that are nearly as good as LACO? I bought based on letter quality, and paid no attention to the order of the letters (unless I saw something special in a domain). Looking through my list I see that the worst letter is very often the last letter.
L = Limited
A = Associates, Association
C = Company, Corporation
O = Online, Organization
P = Partners, Partnership, Pty (Proprietary), Properties (good for real estate management companies)
also
I = Incorporated
W = Web
G = Group, Gesellschaft (ie German "organization" - even better if AG = Aktiengesellschaft - "corporation")
F = Fund
all these work best in last position ...
ie, QXZ Incorporated might be a company choosing between shelling out $7K for QXZ.com or making a reasonable offer for QXZI.com ...
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