would be good to get some clarification from Mark or other NP admins re this post ->
Seems like that suggestion has to do with transactions taking place on NP ...
Now, there are apparently 30 LLLL.com from bad trades on DP out there. I don't see any real downside to knowing what to keep an eye out for - though would want to be cautious when posting other people's personal details from WHOIS etc - given that scammers may have mis-appropriated other people's identities as well as the domains in question ....
Has anyone had any LLLL.com offers from anyone by the username or email name of:
indianbetiv
or
blackice
I have sold names to this person but not transfered them yet. I think I am gonna wait 24-48hrs on this one. All of the email addresses and other info from the person is really not matching up and making me nervous. Please let me know if you have dealt with them.
When it doubt, wait it out. Scammers typically will just reverse their payment if they do not receive their domains within a few hours without asking you about it, unlike true buyers (who will likely contact you first to see what's going on). Also, if the user is a NamePros member make sure they have good feedback, and never deal with a '0 post' user. They have scam written all over them.
EDIT: If you are simply too worried just refund the money. According to that 'hi5 profile' in the post above the guy is from Romania. Be wary, because a large number of domain scammers are from foreign countries where the laws are different.
__________________ Brian Wallenstein
President, VYFX.com t: +1.9086423158 | e: brian@vyfx.com
I had a bidder on some of my 11 LLLL.com's on auction yesterday/today. I nulled them as I posted this in the auction "buyers with trader feedback under 5 need to pm me before bidding". I think EVERYONE should do this at least. I am not saying if he was trying to scam as I have no idea but he had no posts (other then bidding on some domains) and no trader feedbacks.
I didn't want to take that chance after I started reading this thread and found out how rampant this scamming is WOW.
Yeah, Im pretty sure now that I"m dealing with him.. And he is a scammer. I sent an email to the email on account with PayPal. I asked him to reply from that email address with a copy of what I had sent.
He replied from a proxie email of some sort made to look like the PP account email.. lol and he asked if it was ok, I replied again telling him I need him to send me exactly what I sent him... We will see. Plus the english is broken and the original email name was Heather something, and the PP account name is also a female name but not Heather..
I am awaiting his reply and getting ready to call PayPal...... again.
Call this PayPal phone number and report the stolen email address so they can freeze it ASAP! :
(402)935-2100
Call Center Inbound Call Center
Premier Services Line
Well I don't want to sound rude but if someone doesn't speak my language then I'm not going to, under any circumstances, trust that individual with anything. Broken English, poor grammar, and confusing personal information (i.e. different names as you stated, odd phone numbers like 999-1010, unlikely addresses like 123 ____) all let me know that the buyer doesn't care about taking the time to follow through with a professional sale.
I highly advise you not to go through with the sale. Even though you acknowledged this I'm just making sure..
__________________ Brian Wallenstein
President, VYFX.com t: +1.9086423158 | e: brian@vyfx.com
thanks for the heads up "buckshotdots" and as per general auction rules, I let the winner pay for the name before pushing it and if I'm buying it from a new seller or a seller without efficient rating/history, of course there is some thought process that goes behind it before sending some random new guy those hard to earn USD's, you know
We "NPer's" should help eachother in every way possible to make this place, a safe trading community!!
Besides scammers trying to take your names, they also will sell you their stolen names...
1. Be very wary when you come accross posts that state things like please don't type the name your bidding on because I don't want the name indexed. Or they type the names like this XXXX(.)com
2. Do a search on any names your bidding on. If you see multiple posts recently where the name has been sold, but, there is no change in the whois record, it's a scam and your not going to get the name.
3. If during your search you see multiple posts from different people selling the same names...it generally means it's a person with multiple accounts.
4. Check the whois info on each domain that the person is selling. If the contact info is different on some of the domains or has things like 12121212 instead of contact info, the domain is probably stolen.
5. If you get scammed, chances are the scammer will go on the defensive and call you a scammer and give you a negative trader rating. They will deny being a scammer up and down, however, if you threaten to post their name in this thread....they will give the money back.
6. POST ANY DOMAINS YOU THINK MAY BE STOLEN HERE, OR, DOMAINS THAT ARE STOLEN. Once they are indexed, their harder to sell.
7. Don't let a scammer open an account for you and then transfer the domain into that account at a small registrar. Many registries say you must call them to transfer a domain out. The scammer knows your name and the domain secret since they set up the account.
LAST...I POSTED THE LINK TO THIS SCAM WATCH THREAD STARTED BY REECE ON MY WEBSITE, AND I'M CHALLENGING ALL WEBMASTERS TO DO THE SAME.
Yep, he is a scammer.. I knew it from the start but wanted to take all the steps before calling someone who I don't know a scammer. I have had successful deals with people in who type broken English so I never want to single someone out because of that. I think I did what is right. I never lost my name, the owner of the stolen PP account is getting her money back and this guy has been reported!
While I agree with the rest of the statements, I consider using this technique more often.
When one sells a domain on NP, he is looking for a quick "reseller" pricing. If in any case the domain does not sell, he is putting it back in the vault.
When a serious end user comes, it is likely he will do a research on the name, and if he finds out that it was for sale on a forum for $50, he won't offer you much more, even if initially maybe he thought he would pay $xxxx.
So, personally I will take care that my domain names that I offer for quick sale on forums at bargain prices will not be indexed by search engines.
Why would I put someone`s else picture on my profile?
well, I can understand that, but you should also understand that YOU made the mistake and I`m here in your thread trying to help you a bit but if you don`t understand the mistake you have done or you are not willing to understand it , then basically what I am going to advice you?
I would not trust a member which joined 1 month ago, you trusted one who just got here the day before you sent him your domain.....that`s the problem.
It`s like welcomming home someone just met on the road. It`s just a big NO-NO.
You lost , there is not much we can do anymore, he`ll probably have 10 millions different e-mail addresses and accounts if he`s not stupid so there is nothing to do, just move on and learn how to prevent this mistakes. I have seen/read people losing 4 figures domains on chargebacks, I have read about good memmbers gone bad all of a sudden...it`s life, it`s the risky part of our business. To cut it you got only 1 solution: stop using PayPal and start using wire payments or Moniker Escrow. I`m doing it this way too.
But for you...It`s up to you of course.
I will think your comments , you are telling for me not to do mistake for my goodness, you are kind , at the moment nothing has finished I havent lost yet
I wish you the best , but after reading so many other similar stories from other people , I `m afraid that these scammers win because PayPal is useless.
This guy aint using stolen paypal accounts though he uses bank accounts where you can buy at DP for $5 ( not anymore available though DP banned it) its a bank account you buy for $5 and than just add it to your paypal account i don't know how they get these bank accounts but seem they have millions like its VCC i acautlly brought one to verify my friend paypal account and he added his credit card weird thing pay pal took from his bank account (which is the brought one) and not from his CC so he saw from bankaccount he refunded the payment right away and removed the bank account unfortunately the next day his paypal account was closed , he explained to paypal it was a mistake but still they didn't open it So be careful this guy will keep creating paypal accounts its so easy to do it i was once scammed for a domain name to tell you all the truth i scammed the guy back
Good luck for everyone
Ps is i lived where he is i"ll handel it with my own hands
So be careful this guy will keep creating paypal accounts its so easy to do it i was once scammed for a domain name to tell you all the truth i scammed the guy back