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Old 01-30-2008, 05:03 PM   · #51
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:11 PM   · #52
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:24 PM   · #53
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it's my stolen domain.
I push to him just change name and email..
he mailed me using:
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:56 PM   · #54
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I dont understand how people fall victim to this. As long as the buyers paypal account information and registrars account information match 100% how can he use a charge back and get away with it?



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How in the world does paypal allow all these charge backs.


If the PayPal account was funded by a credit card, PayPal can hardly do a thing
against approved chargebacks by credit card companies. That's one thing they
have little to no control over.

Kudos to the OP for starting this. Stay alert, everyone.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:12 PM   · #55
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
Maybe we should send someoen to visit him....


I invite everyone to start selling by Ecrow services , especially Moniker`s Escrow.....the safest.


Well actually this is not a bad idea. See, countries with weak laws work BOTH ways. Seek out a less than reputable Private Investigator in the country. Ask him to take some pictures of the person. The after you get the pics say you will pay a few hundred extra bucks for a picture of his teeth. Nothing else, just his teeth on a white sheet.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:46 PM   · #56
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I'm not a big fan of gratuitous violence ... but in this case ... considering the real misery that this sort of theft causes both to the direct victims, and all the GREAT TRADERS in Romania and Russia and many other of the presumed "risky business" locations - a few of whom I've enjoyed really good luck doing profitable, honorable deals with in the last few months.

One thing to also be aware of - it's just as easy for a scammer to be sitting in a boiler room in Brooklyn and throwing out red herrings to distant locations to discourage pursuit. Plenty of creeps trying to rip people off right here in the good old U. S. of A. too. Though this guy seems pretty clearly to be a confirmed idiot of the Romanian persuasion this time ....

I think our man in Romania "Investigator Alex" is on the case now anyway ... Didn't know he was a wrestler (just knew he was about 2 meters tall, and approximately as wide!) ... that certainly adds a new dimension for Marian to contemplate as he reviews his dental insurance policy.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:51 PM   · #57
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If you want to email him kevnospam@aol.com or admin@romaniapenet.com

That aol email address is working he talked to me on Aol Instant messenger awhile back----

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Old 01-30-2008, 09:00 PM   · #58
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In regards of the PayPal chargebacks and similar scamming problems, I advice you guys to have a good read at this thread:

http://www.dnforum.com/f34/paypal-s...ead-274318.html


PayPal is not safe and I personally limit the usage of it for low amount with trusted people.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:08 AM   · #59
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I dont understand how people fall victim to this.




It's not easy to find whether it is a real buyer or scammer. Once things like these happen, then you realize your on the wrong end.
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Old 01-31-2008, 01:16 AM   · #60
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I use escrow.com for anything above $500. And wire for anything over $1k or even xoom.com (uses paypal).

Its better to be safe than sorry, I'd rather keep my domains than make a sale which refunds... sorry to hear about all your troubles.

I've also warned about another scammer on the loose in my other post in this thread.

Originally Posted by Alex
If I do not trust somebody I advise them to use MB, there is no recharge possible.



Another popular misconception. I am not a moneybookers user but I did research them when someone offered to use their escrow -

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7.4. When Customer receives a payment through the Service, he/she is NOT protected against a subsequent reversal of the transaction. Examples of such a reversal include, but are not limited to, a credit card reversal by the sender of the payment and a reversal of the transaction because the sender of the payment was using a stolen credit card or unauthorised bank account.
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:18 PM   · #61
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Marian just emailed me from a Kev email, and told me that he read the thread, he has no time now to stay on the internet but he promises to get back here in the next days.

I hope he will do the right thing, I just replied to his email, and I really hope the boy comes to his mind.

Sincerely, I am (ok, was) a wrestler etc, but I would love this to end without involving third parties. I hope he will do the right thing.

And I hope those "next days" will be very soon, and won't be used just to get some extra time. Everybody please search for your domains on google etc, so that they are not sold again. I will give him 2 days myself. It is very enough time to contemplate, and get a connection
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:37 PM   · #62
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:50 PM   · #63
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:24 PM   · #64
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Thanks---glad To Help You All Out---the Guy Was Very Nice And Agreed He Did Wrong And Had No Problem Pushing Them To Me---we Have Talked In The Past
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:53 PM   · #65
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Wow, that's amazing that you recovered the domain names Wibro.. Props and rep added

I am a PayPal user and this thread is really scaring me.. ha. I've had over 100 successful domain transactions, w/o any scams. Thank God.

I am starting to integrate paypal onto my site so that people can just buy names from my site but now after reading this I'm no so sure if I should proceed. PayPal is extremly popular and so many people allready use it that it is very convinient to use. But the lack of chargeback protection does have me a little worried.

I think that PayPal and GoDaddy should work together to protect sellers from having this happen. If a chargeback happens via PayPal, GoDaddy should ensure the return of the domain name if the seller files a complaint.


btw: I see at the bottom that kevnospam is reading this thread right now. Shouldn't that IP be banned or something?

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Old 01-31-2008, 05:18 PM   · #66
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Originally Posted by wibrodomains
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Thank you. That is an awesome job. I am still trying to contact someone there locally to talk to him. I am assuming this is how things are handled there and who am I to pass judgement?
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:29 PM   · #68
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I've been following this thread and i can say im just really impressed with the helpfulness and assistance the NamePro members offer to their fellow domainer. I just think this is what a community is all about. I am glad to be a NP member.

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Old 01-31-2008, 06:44 PM   · #69
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I'm sorry guys - I'm not yet convinced that this all isn't just an attempt to buy this guy more time.

Has everyone gotten their names back? Or at least SOMEONE that doesn't have a feedback of only 1.

I have a hard time believing a scammer would go through all this trouble - just to give the names back.

It just doesn't sit well with me.

I hope this is honestly taking a turn for the better... but I'm NOT convinced yet.
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Just got your PM .. waiting for GoDaddy email

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This scam wasn't limited to LLLL.com's.

He also stole 3 character .coms.

It'd be real easy - to give the LLLL's back (to get the majority of people off his back) and keep the 3 character names for a nice profit.

Don't back off his case until EVERYTHING has been returned!

Wibro - did he also transfer all of the 3 character .coms he stole?
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