WARNING: How to Avoid Domain Scams and Scammers - Page 7

Bill · 02-12-2008, 10:33 PM

"megaDNman" - Account now closed...

-Bill

GreenGambler · 02-13-2008, 02:58 AM

-- SCAMMER ALERT --

A reputable member of DigitalPoint has become a scammer.

Member Name: Ash

She stole my domain names:

Zmul.com / Zmul
GJRF.com / Gjrf

Please see this thread where I dealt with her publicly.

She paid me once, took away the payment. I called her out. She then had her "partner" pay me. Now, that payment has been reversed.

The first PayPal email address used for payment was: kellywillhite@comcast.net / kellywillhite
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/425450-warning-how-avoid-domain-scams-scammers.html
The second PayPal email address used was: mstearns84@hotmail.com / mstearns84
The Scammers contact email and the name I transfered the names to is: bobwilkok@gmail.com / bobwilkok

Personal Website: http://whois.domaintools.com/shopraider.com

Be on the look out for this scammer and do not do business with her, no matter how convincing her story.

I will post updates.
GG

italiandragon · 02-13-2008, 03:30 AM

The more you yell about this the more sharks will come knowing PayPal won`t protect domain sellers, just STOP USING THAT COMPANY.

zurc.net · 02-13-2008, 03:42 AM

Wow, this is starting to get really ridiculous. Is PayPal that incredibly bad that they don't freeze accounts which have "X" amount of charge backs in a certain time period? Or even just 1 charge back atleast until they verify the REAL owner of the account is the one processing these charge backs.

Domain sales is becoming incredibly popular, PayPal really needs to get up to date with these type of sales. It's really pathetic that they already haven't.

-zurc

Originally Posted by italiandragon

The more you yell about this the more sharks will come knowing PayPal won`t protect domain sellers, just STOP USING THAT COMPANY.

Lol, thats understandable for you to say. As considering everything that has been going on, I will only be using Escrow for any type of domain sale.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

But you also can't argue with these people for being pissed, this is also understandable. PayPal really needs to get on top of things..

-zurc

Shenron · 02-13-2008, 03:55 AM

I wonder if they ever start an Escrow service themselves... of course their charges would be ridiculous as they are already, but well...

GreenGambler · 02-13-2008, 04:10 AM

What if it's a $50 domain name sale? $50 is $50.. I don't wanna be scammed out of it nor do I want to pay $25 to Escrow.com for a $50 transaction. What do you do then? Heck... I feel ripped off paying Escrow $25 for a $100 transaction. I guess it's better than loosing a domain name but it still feels like the lesser of two evils, IMO.

This is my first time being scammed after completing alot of successful domain name sales, I even dealt with a reputable board member, searched everything out did all I thought I could. This crap can happen to anyone using PayPal, I am deffinetly seeking other funding sources unless we have had previous dealings or I am familiar with you as a member.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

I STILL WANT MY NAMES BACK YOU SCAMMER!!!! -- They have already been indexed by Google as being stolen.

bricio · 02-13-2008, 07:35 AM

it seems TRs, time you have been a member in a forum dont count regarding LLLL

they are so valuable people is destroying all their reputation to steal them... and what will hapeen to them?
with names indexed as stolen at google as GreenGambler made with yours (and i hope others have done the same thing), they will lose the best thing they had; their reputation

good luck and keep us updating, you that unfortunately had your names stolen
i really hope you all get them back

italiandragon · 02-13-2008, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by zurc.net

Wow, this is starting to get really ridiculous. Is PayPal that incredibly bad that they don't freeze accounts which have "X" amount of charge backs in a certain time period? Or even just 1 charge back atleast until they verify the REAL owner of the account is the one processing these charge backs.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

Domain sales is becoming incredibly popular, PayPal really needs to get up to date with these type of sales. It's really pathetic that they already haven't.

-zurc

Lol, thats understandable for you to say. As considering everything that has been going on, I will only be using Escrow for any type of domain sale.

But you also can't argue with these people for being pissed, this is also understandable. PayPal really needs to get on top of things..

-zurc

PayPal does not care because if they did they immediately would have fixed this, there also scammers the other way around....too long to explain but I have heard other stories of people given a different domain......so for PayPal to get on top of things they should get specialised in domains.....and till this industry won`t be as popular as others , the best thing to do is using Moniker Escrow.
If you want to trade $50 domains then you take the risks because there is nothing in the world that will give you back the domains , PayPal won`t absolutely do anything. It`s nothing new.

tinner666 · 02-13-2008, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by h3rm4w4n

i ever read if we visit sites our cookie could be recorded so be careful ti click/visit site, and also email can send our cookie out (look at mozilla firefox, we are able to edit cookie). I ever watch video of hacking email account , friendster etc. you may find them at youtube.com... etc.

IE is even better with it's WhiteList/BlackList. And YES, I use all the browsers at times, including Safari,FF, and Opera. IE does have better control.

Yofie · 02-13-2008, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

PayPal does not care because if they did they immediately would have fixed this, there also scammers the other way around....too long to explain but I have heard other stories of people given a different domain......so for PayPal to get on top of things they should get specialised in domains.....and till this industry won`t be as popular as others , the best thing to do is using Moniker Escrow.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450
If you want to trade $50 domains then you take the risks because there is nothing in the world that will give you back the domains , PayPal won`t absolutely do anything. It`s nothing new.

Make a difference!!!! I am trying to do my part, into getting this problem fixed..

go to www.IntangibleEscrow.com

Or here on NP's http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...al-having.html

If we all cry out for the help for an intangible escrow service, they will listen!

Alex · 02-13-2008, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Yofie

Make a difference!!!! I am trying to do my part, into getting this problem fixed..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

go to www.IntangibleEscrow.com

Or here on NP's http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...al-having.html

If we all cry out for the help for an intangible escrow service, they will listen!

There is Moneybookers escrow. I am really happy customer. I even posted a thread in the break room:

http://www.namepros.com/the-break-ro...eybookers.html

They have an 1% escrow service. From what I heard it is secure, and I used it.

**mis_chiff** · 02-13-2008, 08:37 AM

Just saw this thread, and remembered the name you posted
http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...mer-on-dp.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

Originally Posted by GreenGambler

-- SCAMMER ALERT --

A reputable member of DigitalPoint has become a scammer.

Member Name: Ash

She stole my domain names:

Zmul.com / Zmul
GJRF.com / Gjrf

Please see this thread where I dealt with her publicly.

She paid me once, took away the payment. I called her out. She then had her "partner" pay me. Now, that payment has been reversed.

The first PayPal email address used for payment was: kellywillhite@comcast.net / kellywillhite
The second PayPal email address used was: mstearns84@hotmail.com / mstearns84
The Scammers contact email and the name I transfered the names to is: bobwilkok@gmail.com / bobwilkok

Personal Website: http://whois.domaintools.com/shopraider.com

Be on the look out for this scammer and do not do business with her, no matter how convincing her story.

I will post updates.
GG

Yofie · 02-13-2008, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Alex

There is Moneybookers escrow. I am really happy customer. I even posted a thread in the break room:

http://www.namepros.com/the-break-ro...eybookers.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

They have an 1% escrow service. From what I heard it is secure, and I used it.

The problem is the "mass" does not use MoneyBookers. The Mass uses paypal and there is NO REASON why paypal can not offer the same thing MB is offering! Send them feedback. It will only take a couple seconds and you can help making a difference!

Alex · 02-13-2008, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Yofie

The problem is the "mass" does not use MoneyBookers. The Mass uses paypal and there is NO REASON why paypal can not offer the same thing MB is offering! Send them feedback. It will only take a couple seconds and you can help making a difference!

I sent PP feedback regarding my account limitations from July 2007 till now, and they still keep sending me their automatic emails regarding the steps to remove my account limitation.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

I do not believe they read their emails sincerely. You can read my story in the above thread.

But, you are right, for some reason people use Paypal. Weird.

FPForum · 02-13-2008, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by TheKingMan

These names were stolen from me by the same person as Sheriff.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

lvqd.com
zqcv.com
zcvq.com

Interesting.."Sheriff" bought a domain from me about 2 months back on DP forum..and payment was never held/reversed..at the same time that name sold for like $30 bucks...

bricio · 02-13-2008, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Alex

for some reason people use Paypal. Weird.

i think the reason is eaby...
if so, theres an explanation as ebay is very popular; here in brazil it isnt easy to withdraw money from paypal but many people work with internet have paypal

bgmv · 02-13-2008, 09:08 AM

I am furious, I just got scammed out of 21 LLLL.com Godaddy domains last night on DP. The users name was ASH. Check the profile here, its flawless. Here is the info that was provided for change of registrant:

Michael Stearns
1269 Rinehart Road
Miami
Florida
33179
7864070208
email: BobWilkok@gmail.com

He/she claims to have a partner and that their email is:

kellywillhite@comcast.net

These are the names that I lost:

LPZT
MXIK
NKXC
NQVG
OGZH
OWXD
PRZJ
PZSN
QHYO
GJCQ GoDaddy 2/18/08---->$59
PQHY GoDaddy 10/31/2008--->$59
PQYT GoDaddy 10/31/2008---->$59
UZRK GoDaddy 8/2/2008---->$59 (live site .ru)
BQPG GoDaddy 7/8/2008---->$84
FOQH GoDaddy 7/16/08----->$175 (Pronouncable)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450
EBZP GoDaddy 7/08/08----->$89 (Ending P can be "Partners")
DTQG
FJXA
TKZD
HFZR
QPYE

Any help from anyone is greatly appreciated. I already contacted BlowDaddy and GayPal they are absolutely no help. "Nothing we can do on our end"

GreenGambler was also scammed. I need those names, that was my income, I was relying on them to pay my tuition and rent next semester. This sucks.

**mis_chiff** · 02-13-2008, 09:24 AM

Maybe someone should contact the "Media" about
all the scamming PAYPAL allows. err, I mean all
the paypal chargebacks....There must be literally
hundreds of chargebacks as of late....and what
no red flags to paypal? They can see the transaction
history, how many chargebacks are people allowed to make?

If this happened at your bank, you can bet it'll be all over the news!

Anyone know any reporters?

italiandragon · 02-13-2008, 09:30 AM

I told about this to PayPal last August.......did anything Change? Nope.

And the more domains get noticed to be valuable the more bastards will come to scam.

Yofie: there is nothing worse than a company that does not want to listen.

bgmv · 02-13-2008, 10:18 AM

I just contacted my lawyer. He is a corporate domain attorney and deals mostly with TM issues but I am hoping he can help. I also asked about a class action suit. I will keep everyone posted.

Thank You everyone for your help.

italiandragon · 02-13-2008, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by bgmv

I just contacted my lawyer. He is a corporate domain attorney and deals mostly with TM issues but I am hoping he can help. I also asked about a class action suit. I will keep everyone posted.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

Thank You everyone for your help.

and who`s going to pay him?

and I`m sure PayPal has a ten millions little notes that when we register we accept....

bgmv · 02-13-2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

and who`s going to pay him?

and I`m sure PayPal has a ten millions little notes that when we register we accept....

yea im sure there is some fine print in their contract.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

if we do have a case then payment shouldnt be an issue, how many of us have had this problem...there are numbers in the masses

kwok · 02-13-2008, 02:22 PM

epasaport · 02-13-2008, 02:29 PM

I take back my domain thanks to Snapnames , they helped me very much , The domain is in my control panel , I sent + rep to who support me while I am in trouble , This is the proof snapnames is the best and trusted company , the scammer dishonorable hostgator will be punished by God, if I found him I will give him his punishment.

Yofie · 02-13-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

I told about this to PayPal last August.......did anything Change? Nope.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

And the more domains get noticed to be valuable the more bastards will come to scam.

Yofie: there is nothing worse than a company that does not want to listen.

I agree, that's why we as a Whole community need to contact them. Some Very Negative press would help us along as well.... Any "marketing" members so it hits all the news outlet's and not just the domain news?

02-12-2008, 10:33 PM	#151 (permalink)
Bill Gutless Wonderâ„¢ Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,554	"megaDNman" - Account now closed... -Bill __________________ ...lame...

02-13-2008, 02:58 AM	#152 (permalink)
GreenGambler Visit -- NameManor.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri--USA Posts: 3,494 Follow @ArtlicoiusArt	-- SCAMMER ALERT -- A reputable member of DigitalPoint has become a scammer. Member Name: Ash She stole my domain names: Zmul.com / Zmul GJRF.com / Gjrf Please see this thread where I dealt with her publicly. She paid me once, took away the payment. I called her out. She then had her "partner" pay me. Now, that payment has been reversed. The first PayPal email address used for payment was: kellywillhite@comcast.net / kellywillhite ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/425450-warning-how-avoid-domain-scams-scammers.html The second PayPal email address used was: mstearns84@hotmail.com / mstearns84 The Scammers contact email and the name I transfered the names to is: bobwilkok@gmail.com / bobwilkok Personal Website: http://whois.domaintools.com/shopraider.com Be on the look out for this scammer and do not do business with her, no matter how convincing her story. I will post updates. GG __________________ Mewv.com is Currently for Sale on Ebay! Original Abstract Art Abstract Artwork For Sale Last edited by GreenGambler; 02-13-2008 at 03:18 AM.

02-13-2008, 03:30 AM	#153 (permalink)
italiandragon NamePros Expert Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 6,438	The more you yell about this the more sharks will come knowing PayPal won`t protect domain sellers, just STOP USING THAT COMPANY. __________________ www.MMCP.com www.decretoingiuntivo.net www.ipotecalegale.info www.swishersweetslittlecigars.com

02-13-2008, 03:55 AM	#155 (permalink)
Shenron Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,430	I wonder if they ever start an Escrow service themselves... of course their charges would be ridiculous as they are already, but well... __________________ London Hotels ********************** Coconut Oil Car Tuning Gisele Bundchen Free Screensavers

02-13-2008, 04:10 AM	#156 (permalink)
GreenGambler Visit -- NameManor.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri--USA Posts: 3,494 Follow @ArtlicoiusArt	What if it's a $50 domain name sale? $50 is $50.. I don't wanna be scammed out of it nor do I want to pay $25 to Escrow.com for a $50 transaction. What do you do then? Heck... I feel ripped off paying Escrow $25 for a $100 transaction. I guess it's better than loosing a domain name but it still feels like the lesser of two evils, IMO. This is my first time being scammed after completing alot of successful domain name sales, I even dealt with a reputable board member, searched everything out did all I thought I could. This crap can happen to anyone using PayPal, I am deffinetly seeking other funding sources unless we have had previous dealings or I am familiar with you as a member. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 I STILL WANT MY NAMES BACK YOU SCAMMER!!!! -- They have already been indexed by Google as being stolen. __________________ Mewv.com is Currently for Sale on Ebay! Original Abstract Art Abstract Artwork For Sale

02-13-2008, 07:35 AM	#157 (permalink)
bricio Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,553	it seems TRs, time you have been a member in a forum dont count regarding LLLL they are so valuable people is destroying all their reputation to steal them... and what will hapeen to them? with names indexed as stolen at google as GreenGambler made with yours (and i hope others have done the same thing), they will lose the best thing they had; their reputation good luck and keep us updating, you that unfortunately had your names stolen i really hope you all get them back

02-13-2008, 09:08 AM	#167 (permalink)
bgmv Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bgmv.com Posts: 2,388 Follow @bvardag	I am furious, I just got scammed out of 21 LLLL.com Godaddy domains last night on DP. The users name was ASH. Check the profile here, its flawless. Here is the info that was provided for change of registrant: Michael Stearns 1269 Rinehart Road Miami Florida 33179 7864070208 email: BobWilkok@gmail.com He/she claims to have a partner and that their email is: kellywillhite@comcast.net These are the names that I lost: LPZT MXIK NKXC NQVG OGZH OWXD PRZJ PZSN QHYO GJCQ GoDaddy 2/18/08---->$59 PQHY GoDaddy 10/31/2008--->$59 PQYT GoDaddy 10/31/2008---->$59 UZRK GoDaddy 8/2/2008---->$59 (live site .ru) BQPG GoDaddy 7/8/2008---->$84 FOQH GoDaddy 7/16/08----->$175 (Pronouncable) ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 EBZP GoDaddy 7/08/08----->$89 (Ending P can be "Partners") DTQG FJXA TKZD HFZR QPYE Any help from anyone is greatly appreciated. I already contacted BlowDaddy and GayPal they are absolutely no help. "Nothing we can do on our end" GreenGambler was also scammed. I need those names, that was my income, I was relying on them to pay my tuition and rent next semester. This sucks. __________________ HVAC Training Michael Myers Mask Joan Miro Great Keppel Island Calculadora Gratis Enclosed Car Transport Paperless Office Blood Diamonds SEO Boca Raton Serenity Prayer

02-13-2008, 09:24 AM	#168 (permalink)
mis_chiff Membership Director Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,207 Follow @mis_chiff	Maybe someone should contact the "Media" about all the scamming PAYPAL allows. err, I mean all the paypal chargebacks....There must be literally hundreds of chargebacks as of late....and what no red flags to paypal? They can see the transaction history, how many chargebacks are people allowed to make? If this happened at your bank, you can bet it'll be all over the news! Anyone know any reporters?

02-13-2008, 09:30 AM	#169 (permalink)
italiandragon NamePros Expert Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 6,438	I told about this to PayPal last August.......did anything Change? Nope. And the more domains get noticed to be valuable the more bastards will come to scam. Yofie: there is nothing worse than a company that does not want to listen. __________________ www.MMCP.com www.decretoingiuntivo.net www.ipotecalegale.info www.swishersweetslittlecigars.com

02-13-2008, 10:18 AM	#170 (permalink)
bgmv Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bgmv.com Posts: 2,388 Follow @bvardag	I just contacted my lawyer. He is a corporate domain attorney and deals mostly with TM issues but I am hoping he can help. I also asked about a class action suit. I will keep everyone posted. Thank You everyone for your help. __________________ HVAC Training Michael Myers Mask Joan Miro Great Keppel Island Calculadora Gratis Enclosed Car Transport Paperless Office Blood Diamonds SEO Boca Raton Serenity Prayer

02-13-2008, 02:22 PM	#173 (permalink)
kwok NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: eUrls.Network Posts: 615	- __________________ Premium URLs Sales and Clearance - Prolonged.com Migrated.com HobbyNow.com StreetPlus.com + Many more ResearchHome.com - Please appraise my domain Last edited by kwok; 02-19-2008 at 04:03 AM.

02-13-2008, 02:29 PM	#174 (permalink)
epasaport Account Closed Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 517	I take back my domain thanks to Snapnames , they helped me very much , The domain is in my control panel , I sent + rep to who support me while I am in trouble , This is the proof snapnames is the best and trusted company , the scammer dishonorable hostgator will be punished by God, if I found him I will give him his punishment. Last edited by epasaport; 02-13-2008 at 03:11 PM.

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