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| Visit -- NameManor.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri--USA
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/425450-warning-how-avoid-domain-scams-scammers.html That way we can be on the lookout for someone trying to re-sale them. | ||||
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| Domain Wanker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | would be good to get some clarification from Mark or other NP admins re this post ->
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 Now, there are apparently 30 LLLL.com from bad trades on DP out there. I don't see any real downside to knowing what to keep an eye out for - though would want to be cautious when posting other people's personal details from WHOIS etc - given that scammers may have mis-appropriated other people's identities as well as the domains in question .... | ||||
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| NamePros Expert Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 Insulting? ![]() Are you for real? I gave you my best advice and you call it insulting? Go get scammed, who cares, I should not give a damn wasting my time to help you.....really. | ||||
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| Visit -- NameManor.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri--USA
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Has anyone had any LLLL.com offers from anyone by the username or email name of: indianbetiv or blackice I have sold names to this person but not transfered them yet. I think I am gonna wait 24-48hrs on this one. All of the email addresses and other info from the person is really not matching up and making me nervous. Please let me know if you have dealt with them. Thanks, GG |
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| GenericDomainMarket.com ![]() Join Date: Apr 2007
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I hope this might help you validating his info : http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...n&ct=clnk&cd=1 BTW, he is no longer a member on hi5 .. this is cashe for his profile.
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United States
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EDIT: If you are simply too worried just refund the money. According to that 'hi5 profile' in the post above the guy is from Romania. Be wary, because a large number of domain scammers are from foreign countries where the laws are different. | ||||
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: British Columbia
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I had a bidder on some of my 11 LLLL.com's on auction yesterday/today. I nulled them as I posted this in the auction "buyers with trader feedback under 5 need to pm me before bidding". I think EVERYONE should do this at least. I am not saying if he was trying to scam as I have no idea but he had no posts (other then bidding on some domains) and no trader feedbacks. I didn't want to take that chance after I started reading this thread and found out how rampant this scamming is WOW. good luck everyone, g- |
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 He replied from a proxie email of some sort made to look like the PP account email.. lol and he asked if it was ok, I replied again telling him I need him to send me exactly what I sent him... We will see. Plus the english is broken and the original email name was Heather something, and the PP account name is also a female name but not Heather.. I am awaiting his reply and getting ready to call PayPal...... again. Call this PayPal phone number and report the stolen email address so they can freeze it ASAP! : (402)935-2100 Call Center Inbound Call Center Premier Services Line | ||||
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United States
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I highly advise you not to go through with the sale. Even though you acknowledged this I'm just making sure.. | ||||
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| Account Closed Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Punjab
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | thanks for the heads up "buckshotdots" and as per general auction rules, I let the winner pay for the name before pushing it and if I'm buying it from a new seller or a seller without efficient rating/history, of course there is some thought process that goes behind it before sending some random new guy those hard to earn USD's, you know ![]() We "NPer's" should help eachother in every way possible to make this place, a safe trading community!! cheers - J |
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CA,USA
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Besides scammers trying to take your names, they also will sell you their stolen names... 1. Be very wary when you come accross posts that state things like please don't type the name your bidding on because I don't want the name indexed. Or they type the names like this XXXX(.)com 2. Do a search on any names your bidding on. If you see multiple posts recently where the name has been sold, but, there is no change in the whois record, it's a scam and your not going to get the name. 3. If during your search you see multiple posts from different people selling the same names...it generally means it's a person with multiple accounts. 4. Check the whois info on each domain that the person is selling. If the contact info is different on some of the domains or has things like 12121212 instead of contact info, the domain is probably stolen. 5. If you get scammed, chances are the scammer will go on the defensive and call you a scammer and give you a negative trader rating. They will deny being a scammer up and down, however, if you threaten to post their name in this thread....they will give the money back. 6. POST ANY DOMAINS YOU THINK MAY BE STOLEN HERE, OR, DOMAINS THAT ARE STOLEN. Once they are indexed, their harder to sell. 7. Don't let a scammer open an account for you and then transfer the domain into that account at a small registrar. Many registries say you must call them to transfer a domain out. The scammer knows your name and the domain secret since they set up the account. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 LAST...I POSTED THE LINK TO THIS SCAM WATCH THREAD STARTED BY REECE ON MY WEBSITE, AND I'M CHALLENGING ALL WEBMASTERS TO DO THE SAME.
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Yep, he is a scammer.. I knew it from the start but wanted to take all the steps before calling someone who I don't know a scammer. I have had successful deals with people in who type broken English so I never want to single someone out because of that. I think I did what is right. I never lost my name, the owner of the stolen PP account is getting her money back and this guy has been reported! Here is the info he gave me and may use again: Emails: blackice@sheknows.com / blackice @ sheknows.com ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 indianbetiv@gmail.com / indianbetiv @ gmail.com / indian betiv Alias: Heather Jordan Profile: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...n&ct=clnk&cd=1 Keep an eye out for this one! GG | ||||
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oradea
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When one sells a domain on NP, he is looking for a quick "reseller" pricing. If in any case the domain does not sell, he is putting it back in the vault. When a serious end user comes, it is likely he will do a research on the name, and if he finds out that it was for sale on a forum for $50, he won't offer you much more, even if initially maybe he thought he would pay $xxxx. So, personally I will take care that my domain names that I offer for quick sale on forums at bargain prices will not be indexed by search engines.
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| NamePros Expert Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Why would I put someone`s else picture on my profile?
well, I can understand that, but you should also understand that YOU made the mistake and I`m here in your thread trying to help you a bit but if you don`t understand the mistake you have done or you are not willing to understand it , then basically what I am going to advice you? I would not trust a member which joined 1 month ago, you trusted one who just got here the day before you sent him your domain.....that`s the problem. It`s like welcomming home someone just met on the road. It`s just a big NO-NO. You lost , there is not much we can do anymore, he`ll probably have 10 millions different e-mail addresses and accounts if he`s not stupid so there is nothing to do, just move on and learn how to prevent this mistakes. I have seen/read people losing 4 figures domains on chargebacks, I have read about good memmbers gone bad all of a sudden...it`s life, it`s the risky part of our business. To cut it you got only 1 solution: stop using PayPal and start using wire payments or Moniker Escrow. I`m doing it this way too. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 But for you...It`s up to you of course. | ||||||||
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| NamePros Expert Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA
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I wish you the best , but after reading so many other similar stories from other people , I `m afraid that these scammers win because PayPal is useless. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 The real issue here is that: PayPal. | ||||
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Jersey, USA
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | This guy aint using stolen paypal accounts though he uses bank accounts where you can buy at DP for $5 ( not anymore available though DP banned it) its a bank account you buy for $5 and than just add it to your paypal account i don't know how they get these bank accounts but seem they have millions like its VCC i acautlly brought one to verify my friend paypal account and he added his credit card weird thing pay pal took from his bank account (which is the brought one) and not from his CC so he saw from bankaccount he refunded the payment right away and removed the bank account unfortunately the next day his paypal account was closed , he explained to paypal it was a mistake but still they didn't open it So be careful this guy will keep creating paypal accounts its so easy to do it i was once scammed for a domain name to tell you all the truth i scammed the guy back ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 Good luck for everyone Ps is i lived where he is i"ll handel it with my own hands
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![]() ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 i have been thinking what we could do with paypal but theonly thing comes to my mind is not using it if we had another service like paypal but if it protected seller, paypal would be forgotten by all domainers while we dont have it (i think we dont, but i know moneybookers has a cheap escrow service) the best thing is to use an escrow service if you dont know the person you will deal with | ||||
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But as I said it before, Paypal does not deserve any money from domainers, because it is making our life harder. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 I use MB or escrow. And I do not accept anything else. At least I am safe, and I know that the money that I earned so hard won't get wasted in a scammer's account.
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portugal
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I have been using paypal all the time until I joined NP. After starting to read all the scams people do using it, I still wonder how I managed to use Paypal sucessfully in over 400 Dp transactions without problems. Well, guess I was just lucky... in any case... thank you paypal but I will stop using you more and more...
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| NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: http://dotcomusers.com
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![]() ![]() ![]() | edit descriptions The following domains were stolen from my godaddy account. The scammer bought all these domains for $670 and he paid me by paypal. after i received the payment i transfered the domains to his account as his details as he mentioned. after i transfered the domains the payments which was reversed by paypal due to unautorized transactions. he is doing the fraudelnt things to many. i have given his details too. please help me to make necessary actions to him and get back my domains to me. i can give any proofs if you need more. -------------------- his godaddy details he has given.: Douglas Hamner address: 2489 Ray Court city: Laurinburg state: north carolina zip:28352 USA work phone:9103186373 email shibuyajpn@gmail.com (remember he uses the email "shibuyajpn@gmail.com" for godaddy domain transfer for many ------------------ These are the domains he cheated with me. VYKC.COM VYWV.COM 5BM.NET 5JV.NET BIGGSBIZ.COM JIAN.BIZ CUMZU.COM FOYY.NET MLMHELPER.COM MYBIDS.INFO MAXK.BIZ QW1.NET PBLB.NET PBMB.NET PBRB.NET PBPR.NET WILDWOODGALLERY.US Please take immediate actions. because he is stealing many of the domain owner's domains. i forward your email to whoever cheated by him. his paypal payment was reversed. details given below: ----------- The funds are not available while this transaction is being reviewed Original Transaction Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net 08-Feb.-2008 Payment From Douglas Hamner Held Details $205.40 USD -$8.31 USD $197.09 USD Related Transaction Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net 09-Feb.-2008 The funds are not available while this transaction is being reviewed Placed ... -$205.40 USD $8.31 USD -$197.09 USD Transfer to: Unauthorized Total Amount: -$205.40 USD Date: 09-Feb.-2008 Time: 00:01:16 PST Status: Placed Subject: Unauthorized ------------------- The funds are not available while this transaction is being reviewed Original Transaction Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net 08-Feb.-2008 Payment From Douglas Hamner Held Details $470.00 USD -$18.63 USD $451.37 USD Related Transaction Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net 09-Feb.-2008 The funds are not available while this transaction is being reviewed Placed ... -$470.00 USD $18.63 USD -$451.37 USD ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 Transfer to: Unauthorized Total Amount: -$470.00 USD Date: 09-Feb.-2008 Time: 00:00:30 PST Status: Placed Subject: Unauthorized ------- i invested more $$$ for my domains. this guy cheating more domain owners.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | eBay user ID: Lookigot EDIT: Checked out ok. He used his girlfriends paypal, so that's why all the info did not match up. That is what put up a red flag for me.
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