WARNING: How to Avoid Domain Scams and Scammers - Page 21

FPForum · 07-02-2008, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Idees

Thanks!

It has been a while since we completed the transaction, so I must say that serge20 is a very reliable and is not a scammer.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/425450-warning-how-avoid-domain-scams-scammers.html

I would like to report a suspicious person that I would NOT do business with:

Mark Taylor (taylor.mark23@gmail.com)
a.k.a.
"ManKat"
"sunny23"
"Mark.Taylor"

He does business via email and demands that you push first, or that you push half, and then he send you payment.

In the entire conversation I had with him, he was acting very suspicious.

Thanks for the heads up Idees. I will keep a lookout for this guy

Idees · 07-02-2008, 09:01 PM

No Problem Guys!

italiandragon · 07-10-2008, 05:16 AM

Here there is another member that I would be careful dealing with:

he`s just been banned at DP and his username there was

zellomesh

Despite I made it VERY CLEAR that I don`t accept PayPal , that`s what he wrote me:

Quote:

I dont have a mb account only pp, would that be ok ? I'm a well trusted membere here since may 2007 but if u dont trust me I can wait for the funds to clear in your pp account too as well.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

let me know,
zellomesh

I have my good reasons to refuse PayPal.

-REECE- · 07-10-2008, 05:26 AM

For anyone who doesn't know:

Even if the funds clear your bank account, Paypal will still use any means necessary (including sending a collections agency after you) in order to be able to uphold their scammer-friendly Buyer Protection Policy in the event of a "chargeback" or "dispute". Paypal does little in the way to verify and I'm at a serious loss why some domainers still think Paypal is great (until they get scammed).

World would be so much better and easier if everyone used Moneybookers...

italiandragon · 07-10-2008, 05:29 AM

I just found another thing about zellomesh (which has just joined NP):

http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-...mium-llll.html

Quote:

Payment: PayPal, NP$ (0.02), MoneyBookers

Didn`t he told me just 2 days ago that he did not have a MB account?

Ok, he may just have opened it but...???

Another RED FLAG on that member:

WHOIS RZDU.com

Administrative Contact:
Singh, Sunny ossmanbay@yahoo.com
na
Islington Avenue
Rome, 34252
Italy
+92.234234232

WHOIS ZMBU.com

Administrative Contact:
Arvee, veethars turksisback@yahoo.com
9 Kliensent Street
Istabnul, New Mexico 34252
Turkey
+30.3425234512

And, on top of all this, he claimed to have ALREADY SOLD ZMBU.com, look:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showt...26#post8449326

Then check post #23 :

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...3&postcount=23
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

Ok, now I can say it: he`s a scammer, and not even a clever one.

He`s currently trying to scam lots of people on NamePros.

FPForum · 07-10-2008, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

I just found another thing about zellomesh (which has just joined NP):
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-...mium-llll.html

Didn`t he told me just 2 days ago that he did not have a MB account?

Ok, he may just have opened it but...???

Another RED FLAG on that member:

WHOIS RZDU.com

Administrative Contact:
Singh, Sunny ossmanbay@yahoo.com
na
Islington Avenue
Rome, 34252
Italy
+92.234234232

WHOIS ZMBU.com

Administrative Contact:
Arvee, veethars turksisback@yahoo.com
9 Kliensent Street
Istabnul, New Mexico 34252
Turkey
+30.3425234512

And, on top of all this, he claimed to have ALREADY SOLD ZMBU.com, look:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showt...26#post8449326

Then check post #23 :

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...3&postcount=23

Ok, now I can say it: he`s a scammer, and not even a clever one.

He`s currently trying to scam lots of people on NamePros.

Thank you for this! zellomesh was trying to purchase a domain from me the other day. Thank god he never sent the money and I never sent the domain!

italiandragon · 07-10-2008, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by FPForum

Thank you for this! zellomesh was trying to purchase a domain from me the other day. Thank god he never sent the money and I never sent the domain!

You`re welcome but you know I did warn you for the last time guys as I don`t have anymore time for this and not even for me

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

I wish you could understand that the scammers will simply use other username and keep trying to do those scams.

Just quit using PayPal please and you`ll be safe, use MoneyBookers!

Best regards

Idees · 07-10-2008, 08:43 AM

Just joined?

He joined months ago: http://www.namepros.com/2536124-post16.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

Quote:

My username on digitalpoint is zellomesh

Originally Posted by italiandragon

I just found another thing about zellomesh (which has just joined NP):

italiandragon · 07-10-2008, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Idees

Just joined?

He joined months ago: http://www.namepros.com/2536124-post16.html

His username when I checked few hours ago said joined in July 2008.

Indeed he joined again NP as "zellomesh"

Idees · 07-10-2008, 08:47 AM

Okay, so he created a dupe account.

Is he banned yet?

Originally Posted by italiandragon

His username when I checked few hours ago said joined in July 2008.

FPForum · 07-10-2008, 08:59 AM

Actually, the one I got contact from was:
zellomesh.com

Idees · 07-10-2008, 09:40 AM

Account Suspended: http://www.namepros.com/members/101543.html

-REECE- · 07-22-2008, 12:25 AM

WARNING:

Xandomains (banned member) is Yang Xin from Shanghai and is involved in the fraud of a minimum $12,000 worth short domain names (including ZRU.com).

He's been banned at both DNF and Namepros, however he has managed to defraud at least 2 domainers by hacking into their eNom accounts (still not sure how he managed to do this).

If anyone has further information, please let me know. You can do it anonymously by email to reece(at)bqb.com if you'd like.

Meongtae · 08-01-2008, 04:11 AM

dang...you guys are like CSI-NP. Good deal......excellent!!!

maxeaus · 08-08-2008, 07:22 AM

Zellomesh = Mark Taylor (taylor.mark23@gmail.com)
a.k.a.
"ManKat"
"sunny23"
"Mark.Taylor"
"Wampu"
"James Hakim"(hack em!) He tried to scam me today, and now i find out last week too. Tried to sell me Zmbu.com Rzdu.com and two others(as Wampu on Sitepoint), today under (ManKat on sitepoint) hes trying to sell me another NP members domains. It seems hes going to try pull a charge back scam on NP user Randomo, and offload them onto me.

zurpit.com · 08-08-2008, 01:05 PM

thanks for the heads up

ddchan · 08-16-2008, 10:40 AM

If you're buying llll.com on DP, please be aware of new members -whynot- and -master-of-?-.
The names could be from previous fraud dealings.

They are selling names at less than $20 a piece, but those names are the same names which are from banned NP members
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

Check these threads too.
http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-...m-up-sell.html
http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...mer-alert.html

Username Usergroup Email Join Date Last Login Posts
randan Account Closed o_box_88@yahoo.com 01-18-2008 04-05-2008 12
web_design20 Account Closed boy_vc23@yahoo.com 04-05-2008 04-11-2008 3
Smartdragon Account Closed omidakat@hotmail.com 01-05-2008 01-08-2008 6
6deal9 Account Closed hacker2002_2001@yahoo.com 01-08-2008 01-13-2008 1

bgmv · 08-16-2008, 10:59 AM

A few people have been getting scammed on DNF by user: inbrownstockings and miholdem

maxeaus · 08-16-2008, 01:22 PM

This guy busted today here on NP's, any names here currently missing by anyone?

RE: Domains for sale‏
From: Korkusuz Santor (irfanlim@hotmail.com)
Sent: Sunday, 17 August 2008 6:37:54 AM
To: $$$$$$ (maxe@live.com.au)

TSHZ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com
JIVF.com - Manage.SnapNames.com
XJPJ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com
QPGZ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com
QRNP.com - Manage.SnapNames.com
OZBQ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com
ZKKZ.NET - Manage.SnapNames.com

Malaysia · 08-18-2008, 10:37 AM

wow thats everybody for keeping us all update in here..!

Toldo · 08-22-2008, 02:21 PM

I wanna ask something,

there is somebody now offering me a very good deal for my domains, also he is saying that we will use escrow.com

I think it is safe then?
or he can scam me also by escrow.com ?

FPForum · 08-22-2008, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Toldo

I wanna ask something,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

there is somebody now offering me a very good deal for my domains, also he is saying that we will use escrow.com

I think it is safe then?
or he can scam me also by escrow.com ?

You cannot be scammed using escrow. They are a third party company that will take the money from him, then take the domain to you..then send the domain to him - and the money to you. Escrow is 100% safe

Toldo · 08-22-2008, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by FPForum

Originally Posted by Toldo

I wanna ask something,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450

there is somebody now offering me a very good deal for my domains, also he is saying that we will use escrow.com

I think it is safe then?
or he can scam me also by escrow.com ?

You cannot be scammed using escrow. They are a third party company that will take the money from him, then take the domain to you..then send the domain to him - and the money to you. Escrow is 100% safe

Then if he offering an extremly high offer and the escrow started then no scamming could happen, right?

Len · 08-22-2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by FPForum

You cannot be scammed using escrow. They are a third party company that will take the money from him, then take the domain to you..then send the domain to him - and the money to you. Escrow is 100% safe

This is incorrect, Escrow.com only handles the transfer of the payment, they do not/cannot force the other party to deliver the domain name.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450
I personally would use Sedo for this type of transaction, they are a "true" escrow service whereby they have payment and domains in their control before doing the switch.

Toldo · 08-22-2008, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Len

Originally Posted by FPForum

You cannot be scammed using escrow. They are a third party company that will take the money from him, then take the domain to you..then send the domain to him - and the money to you. Escrow is 100% safe

This is incorrect, Escrow.com only handles the transfer of the payment, they do not/cannot force the other party to deliver the domain name.
I personally would use Sedo for this type of transaction, they are a "true" escrow service whereby they have payment and domains in their control before doing the switch.

That means, if escrow had the money for 15 days after domain transfer so that he can't take it back, then releasing it to the buyer. no scamming could happen from both of them.

07-10-2008, 08:59 AM	#511 (permalink)
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07-22-2008, 12:25 AM	THREAD STARTER #513 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,984	WARNING: Xandomains (banned member) is Yang Xin from Shanghai and is involved in the fraud of a minimum $12,000 worth short domain names (including ZRU.com). He's been banned at both DNF and Namepros, however he has managed to defraud at least 2 domainers by hacking into their eNom accounts (still not sure how he managed to do this). If anyone has further information, please let me know. You can do it anonymously by email to reece(at)bqb.com if you'd like. Last edited by Reece; 07-22-2008 at 11:51 PM.

08-08-2008, 07:22 AM	#515 (permalink)
maxeaus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,800	Zellomesh = Mark Taylor (taylor.mark23@gmail.com) a.k.a. "ManKat" "sunny23" "Mark.Taylor" "Wampu" "James Hakim"(hack em!) He tried to scam me today, and now i find out last week too. Tried to sell me Zmbu.com Rzdu.com and two others(as Wampu on Sitepoint), today under (ManKat on sitepoint) hes trying to sell me another NP members domains. It seems hes going to try pull a charge back scam on NP user Randomo, and offload them onto me. __________________ Drez Media Last edited by maxeaus; 08-08-2008 at 08:29 AM.

08-08-2008, 01:05 PM	#516 (permalink)
zurpit.com New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 22	thanks for the heads up __________________ Free Pixel Ads--Buy Bidets

08-16-2008, 10:59 AM	#518 (permalink)
bgmv Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: bgmv.com Posts: 2,376 Follow @bvardag	A few people have been getting scammed on DNF by user: inbrownstockings and miholdem __________________ HVAC Training Michael Myers Mask Joan Miro Great Keppel Island Calculadora Gratis Enclosed Car Transport Paperless Office Blood Diamonds SEO Boca Raton Serenity Prayer

07-02-2008, 09:01 PM	#502 (permalink)
Idees Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,242	No Problem Guys!

07-10-2008, 05:26 AM	THREAD STARTER #504 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,984	For anyone who doesn't know: Even if the funds clear your bank account, Paypal will still use any means necessary (including sending a collections agency after you) in order to be able to uphold their scammer-friendly Buyer Protection Policy in the event of a "chargeback" or "dispute". Paypal does little in the way to verify and I'm at a serious loss why some domainers still think Paypal is great (until they get scammed). World would be so much better and easier if everyone used Moneybookers...

07-10-2008, 09:40 AM	#512 (permalink)
Idees Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,242	Account Suspended: http://www.namepros.com/members/101543.html

08-01-2008, 04:11 AM	#514 (permalink)
Meongtae NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 576	dang...you guys are like CSI-NP. Good deal......excellent!!!

08-16-2008, 10:40 AM	#517 (permalink)
ddchan NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 657	If you're buying llll.com on DP, please be aware of new members -whynot- and -master-of-?-. The names could be from previous fraud dealings. They are selling names at less than $20 a piece, but those names are the same names which are from banned NP members ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425450 Check these threads too. http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-...m-up-sell.html http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...mer-alert.html Username Usergroup Email Join Date Last Login Posts randan Account Closed o_box_88@yahoo.com 01-18-2008 04-05-2008 12 web_design20 Account Closed boy_vc23@yahoo.com 04-05-2008 04-11-2008 3 Smartdragon Account Closed omidakat@hotmail.com 01-05-2008 01-08-2008 6 6deal9 Account Closed hacker2002_2001@yahoo.com 01-08-2008 01-13-2008 1

08-16-2008, 01:22 PM	#519 (permalink)
maxeaus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,800	This guy busted today here on NP's, any names here currently missing by anyone? RE: Domains for sale‏ From: Korkusuz Santor (irfanlim@hotmail.com) Sent: Sunday, 17 August 2008 6:37:54 AM To: $$$$$$ (maxe@live.com.au) TSHZ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com JIVF.com - Manage.SnapNames.com XJPJ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com QPGZ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com QRNP.com - Manage.SnapNames.com OZBQ.com - Manage.SnapNames.com ZKKZ.NET - Manage.SnapNames.com

08-18-2008, 10:37 AM	#520 (permalink)
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08-22-2008, 02:21 PM	#521 (permalink)
Toldo NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 213	I wanna ask something, there is somebody now offering me a very good deal for my domains, also he is saying that we will use escrow.com I think it is safe then? or he can scam me also by escrow.com ? __________________ Put your link here for $1 per week.. PM me if interested

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