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Netizen 02-16-2008 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex
I searched through this thread but found few VCVC sales. Can anybody tell me what is the current minimum price on these, as I might want to sell 7 VCVC's.
If you sell them to scammer you might get low $x,xxx each but if its a deal with a true reseller then maybe low to mid $xxx :hehe:

Alex 02-16-2008 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Netizen
If you sell them to scammer you might get low $x,xxx each but if its a deal with a true reseller then maybe low to mid $xxx :hehe:
Oucchhhhh . Misposted. I am still in bed with my coffee, and I wanted to put this question in the LLLL thread. Sorry.

italiandragon 02-16-2008 05:50 AM
Ok, I just blogged about this inviting people to use MB and quit PP plus some advices on how not to get scammed.

If anyone has more advices , just PM me them and I`ll add them to the list, let`s fight back the scammers.

Thanks

Alex 02-16-2008 06:04 AM
I will quote ItalianDragon from one of his earlier blog posts about payment methods that can be found here: http://www.italiandragon.com/?p=23

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If the seller make up stories and force you to pay by PayPal or even worse eGold or MoneyBookers…..then you have a chance that the person you are dealing with is not that genuine. Well known domainers pay eachother by using PayPal up to $500 or even $1,000 but everytime they do it, they know they are running a risk and I won`t personally advice any newbies to take those risks
Now you are saying that MB is good (I agree with you), but the problem is not this, but right after your article I made a very long blog post, explaining why Moneybookers is safer. You ignored it, and did not even changed that line in your article.

And now that you use their refferal code on your blog, Moneybookers is ok, though there was not even 1 month between your two articles. Has this payment method changed that much in less than one month? No.

MB is far better than PP, but in order to build credibility, one must be consequent in his views.

p_campos 02-16-2008 06:32 AM
Just created a moneybookers account!

italiandragon 02-16-2008 06:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
I will quote ItalianDragon from one of his earlier blog posts about payment methods that can be found here: http://www.italiandragon.com/?p=23



Now you are saying that MB is good (I agree with you), but the problem is not this, but right after your article I made a very long blog post, explaining why Moneybookers is safer. You ignored it, and did not even changed that line in your article.

And now that you use their refferal code on your blog, Moneybookers is ok, though there was not even 1 month between your two articles. Has this payment method changed that much in less than one month? No.

MB is far better than PP, but in order to build credibility, one must be consequent in his views.

ALEX, thanks for pointing me this.

I wrote the 1th article without knowing much Moneybookers and by listenings someone else. In the mean time , I had time to check it myself ( I opened my account in January and tried it myself before to write a good review).

I won`t advice something to someone without knowing that works, so for example even PayPal has a referral code, even eBay but certainly I don`t invite people to use them.

I`ll edit the old post now.

Thanks

netklick 02-16-2008 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
ALEX, thanks for pointing me this.

I wrote the 1th article without knowing much Moneybookers and by listenings someone else. In the mean time , I had time to check it myself ( I opened my account in January and tried it myself before to write a good review).

I won`t advice something to someone without knowing that works, so for example even PayPal has a referral code, even eBay but certainly I don`t invite people to use them.

I`ll edit the old post now.

Thanks
I am thinking about opening up a moneybookers account, but do they transfer money (withdraw) to Canada? I don't see Canada listed on their local transfer country list.

How long does it take to get the money from MB?

italiandragon 02-16-2008 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by netklick
I am thinking about opening up a moneybookers account, but do they transfer money (withdraw) to Canada? I don't see Canada listed on their local transfer country list.

How long does it take to get the money from MB?
I am in Australia, I don`t know that, why don`t you contact they customer service? They seems pretty good like Alex pointed already :)

netklick 02-16-2008 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
I am in Australia, I don`t know that, why don`t you contact they customer service? They seems pretty good like Alex pointed already :)
I will do that coming week. Seems like PP is down the drain, so seriously have to look for an alternative to keep up the domaining business.

I will check out your post and if I am going to open an account, I will use your ref code.

italiandragon 02-16-2008 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by netklick
I will do that coming week. Seems like PP is down the drain, so seriously have to look for an alternative to keep up the domaining business.

I will check out your post and if I am going to open an account, I will use your ref code.

Thank you :) It may help to pay hosting, since almost no ones click the adsense.

epasaport 02-16-2008 08:16 AM
megaDNman and hostgator same members , megaDNman offered my LLL.org for 250 I said him I am looking for bin , then hostgator come and said sold at bin .

megaDNman = hostgator

both accounts closed

HeyNow 02-16-2008 08:25 AM
Not Sure If I'm Being Scammed, But ...
 
I received an askingp-price offer for several of my .infos posted here for sale. That offer came via PM here at Namepros, from username "image". Here it is:

"Hi

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Quote:
atp.info $500, Godaddy, expires 9/12/2008
cpk.info $250, Godaddy, expires 9/19/2008
dwp.info $300, Godaddy, expires 9/15/2008
kfh.info $300, Godaddy, expires 12/21/2008
uag.info $300, Godaddy, expires 1/1/2009
I will take these 5 for $1550. Send me your paypal details."

I replied that I prefer to use escrow.com, and "image" replied,
"Don't know how to use it, will not buy."

"image" appears to be a newbie, and he/she may or may not be a scammer, but I thought it seemed fishy.

italiandragon 02-16-2008 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyNow
I received an askingp-price offer for several of my .infos posted here for sale. That offer came via PM here at Namepros, from username "image". Here it is:

"Hi

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I will take these 5 for $1550. Send me your paypal details."

I replied that I prefer to use escrow.com, and "image" replied,
"Don't know how to use it, will not buy."

"image" appears to be a newbie, and he/she may or may not be a scammer, but I thought it seemed fishy.

very fishy

I am starting to have an anger managment problem with them....I pray to meet one so I "use" all my anger and will feel better, any scammer would like to buy my domains?

come on...come here....scammer....come to me...

epasaport 02-16-2008 08:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyNow
I received an askingp-price offer for several of my .infos posted here for sale. That offer came via PM here at Namepros, from username "image". Here it is:

"Hi

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



I will take these 5 for $1550. Send me your paypal details."

I replied that I prefer to use escrow.com, and "image" replied,
"Don't know how to use it, will not buy."

"image" appears to be a newbie, and he/she may or may not be a scammer, but I thought it seemed fishy.
but you wrote in the topic paypal is ok , some people are writing no payment info scammers are saying send me your paypal info this is fishy

thetruman 02-16-2008 08:45 AM
opened a moneybookers account as well (used italiandragon s link as well :hehe: ). I will accept just moneybookers starting from next sales (commission are even lower then PP, then...)

italiandragon 02-16-2008 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by thetruman
opened a moneybookers account as well (used italiandragon s link as well :hehe: ). I will accept just moneybookers starting from next sales (commission are even lower then PP, then...)
Well done Marco, thanks for using my referral too :)

RJ 02-16-2008 09:02 AM
Moneybookers is the opposite of PayPal-- total protection for the seller, none for the buyer. As a seller, I love it. As a buyer, not as much. Ideally you would have a trustworthy escrowlike service that holds the domain until seller confirms reciept of mb payment.

Alex 02-16-2008 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by -RJ-
Moneybookers is the opposite of PayPal-- total protection for the seller, none for the buyer. As a seller, I love it. As a buyer, not as much. Ideally you would have a trustworthy escrowlike service that holds the domain until seller confirms reciept of mb payment.
You are right RJ. Maybe in a few months we will hear I paid for the domain but it was not transferred to me and I cannot make a chargeback.

They have an escrow service though, which is not perfect, but gives some protection to the buyer too.

p_campos 02-16-2008 09:28 AM
I think we will start to view more domains being sold throw moneybookers!

EG.domains 02-16-2008 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
Well done Marco, thanks for using my referral too :)
I noticed your MoneyBookers referral link in your signature. I wanna remind you and everybody else, this is not allowed on NamePros :tu:

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Affiliate Advertising. The Marketplace is intended for advertising products and services owned or operated by forum members. Affiliate or referral "links" are not appropriate anywhere on the forum.
http://www.namepros.com/faq.php?faq=...faq_site_rules

thetruman 02-16-2008 10:27 AM
I haven t gone by the sig link anyway but from the dragon s blog. :)

mlmleads 02-16-2008 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
Maybe we should send someoen to visit him.... :yell:


I invite everyone to start selling by Ecrow services , especially Moniker`s Escrow.....the safest.
As a fellow Italian it is good to see you are thinking like an Italian. :)

sdsinc 02-16-2008 01:00 PM
Comparison of pp & mb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneybookers

zurc.net 02-16-2008 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -RJ-
Moneybookers is the opposite of PayPal-- total protection for the seller, none for the buyer. As a seller, I love it. As a buyer, not as much. Ideally you would have a trustworthy escrowlike service that holds the domain until seller confirms reciept of mb payment.
I have been thinking of opening a account with moneybookers just to have considering of what I have been hearing, so you think its just good to accept money? How fast is there withdrawal? 3-5 days like paypal?

thanks,
-zurc

Idees 02-16-2008 09:49 PM
What's the payment solution if you're both a seller and a buyer? :td:
I'd just rather use Paypal IMO
Quote:
Originally Posted by -RJ-
Moneybookers is the opposite of PayPal-- total protection for the seller, none for the buyer.


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