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Old 07-01-2008, 05:24 AM   · #351
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Why are ad revenues dropping dramatically at FAB

I have a complaint. My ad revenues have dropped 50% from when I initially signed up in January 08. All of my websites are national park websites. Traffic is up but ctr is down 50%. Should I be paranoid and suspect that revenues are being diverted?


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Old 07-01-2008, 03:13 PM   · #352
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Hi pixelpadre,

Can you please PM me your Fab username and I will look into this for you.

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Old 07-01-2008, 10:48 PM   · #353
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Very true,

seems like my clicks add up to alot of not much.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:56 PM   · #354
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:22 AM   · #355
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I have personally had a 30% increase. I am liking them pretty well right now^
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:07 AM   · #356
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Well thats good news. Maybe next month mine will improve. I do get surprised once in a while, but I think my prices per click have been lower the last few months.
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:40 AM   · #357
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I had my best months in May and June. The last several days have been poor, but that's probably just a cycle.

All in all, Fab is the best I have used to date.
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:51 AM   · #358
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I had great increase in June. My huge Chinese traffic disappeared over night and now I have more then 50% traffic from USA and 25% from Europe and my visitors click on ads If this continues I will not have to worry about my renewals
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:12 AM   · #359
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Ummm this is customer service?

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Can you please PM me your Fab username and I will look into this for you.

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Wow.................Read this response from Fab:
"Looking at your account in general, your earnings look relatively consistent, despite a small downturn in the earnings per click (EPC)."
This is relatively consistent? And they will only give you the last 30 days in graphic form.


"In terms of your 'national park' domains, updating the target keyword and design may positively affect the revenue generation."

Anyone see any probs in my designs at the following:
  • sequoianationalpark
  • grandtetonsnationalpark
  • sequoianationalpark
  • glacierpark
  • grandtetonnationalpark
  • mesaverdenationalpark
  • shenandoahnationalpark


"We have always found that while we can outperform our competitors on some domains, this may not be the case for others."



"This is one of the main reasons I always recommend that my customers experiment with different parking services and pay per click (PPC) providers." (sounds like another "take it or leave it" attitude)
Late edit. Here is the bigger picture. Year to date revenues are diverging from clicks at a dramatic rate.



Its time for me to contact google I think. I can swing all my domains there and get a better deal.

Here are my click through rates at google. Much higher there than at Fabulous.


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Old 07-03-2008, 04:04 PM   · #360
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Hi pixelpadre,

I have personally taken a look at your account, and whilst uniques may be up, EPC has dropped significantly. Typically this is an indication that advertisers are spending less on their PPC advertising.

As I'm sure you can appreciate we have no control over advertiser expenditure and that this is the nature of PPC. Costs per click will often rise and fall.

Originally Posted by pixelpadre
"This is one of the main reasons I always recommend that my customers experiment with different parking services and pay per click (PPC) providers." (sounds like another "take it or leave it" attitude)



If you search the various forums, we do not hide the fact that we are not the best parking program for all domains. In fact we encourage domain owners to routinely test their domains over multiple parking platforms.

You will find that some do better with Parking company A, some names will perform better with Parking company B, and so on.

What I would advise, is to run your portfolio at one provider for at least a month, this gives you a good base in which you can compare stats to. Then pick at least 5 different providers (a mix of both Yahoo and Google) and test all domains for a minimum 2 weeks.

After testing across the different providers, compare stats on a domain by domain basis. Then move domains to the provider that performed best for each.

Let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.

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Old 07-04-2008, 02:46 PM   · #361
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Revenue is up with parked

Hey Mike

I did what you suggested (moved one to parked.com) and I got to tell ya, I'm at 79 cents on one domain and that only 8 hours later. Same one with you averaged 30 cents a day and only a few clicks. Although your click pay out may look higher, your actual clicks are way lower.

7 visitors and 12 clicks at parked vs 40 visitors and 3 clicks with yours. How do you explain that?
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Old 07-05-2008, 05:51 PM   · #362
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Originally Posted by pixelpadre
Hey Mike

I did what you suggested (moved one to parked.com) and I got to tell ya, I'm at 79 cents on one domain and that only 8 hours later. Same one with you averaged 30 cents a day and only a few clicks. Although your click pay out may look higher, your actual clicks are way lower.

7 visitors and 12 clicks at parked vs 40 visitors and 3 clicks with yours. How do you explain that?


Hi pixelpadre,

Every parking company has a different way of recording/reporting stats, ie. uniques and clicks. Also, some companies may count traffic from certain countries, while others don't. These (and other factors) would contribute to the differing stats recorded when comparing Fab vs Parked (or other PPC companies for that matter).

It's also important to note to Parked.com use a Yahoo feed, whilst we use Google. It's quite possible that they have more relevant advertisers for your national park domains that Google has, and the advertisers are willing to pay higher CPC's.

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Old 07-05-2008, 06:01 PM   · #363
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hi Mike,

How do I transfer my domains to your registrar? I've tried applying for an account 2 times but got rejected. I want to keep my domains at Fabulous.
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Old 07-05-2008, 07:57 PM   · #364
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Every parking company has a different way of recording/reporting stats, ie. uniques and clicks. Also, some companies may count traffic from certain countries, while others don't. These (and other factors) would contribute to the differing stats recorded when comparing Fab vs Parked (or other PPC companies for that matter).

It's also important to note to Parked.com use a Yahoo feed, whilst we use Google. It's quite possible that they have more relevant advertisers for your national park domains that Google has, and the advertisers are willing to pay higher CPC's.


I'm sort of running into the same problem. Looking back over the last couple of months, I found several domains that started out earning over $1 or $2 dollars per click on a consistent basis. A few are still about the same, but around two or three weeks ago, most started to slide and are now down to between 15 and 45 cents...no keyword changes and around the same uniques, just much lower revenue. They seem to do well when first moved over, and then lose value after a month or so.

I wish I could say some EPC has increased as significantly in some cases, but I can't, although this should happen sometimes when keyword values increase (or maybe I'm just not noticing certain domains). I understand about advertisers, bids and such, but why would the EPC follow the same pattern of decrease over many different, unrelated categories, keywords and advertisers?

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Old 07-06-2008, 12:10 AM   · #365
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Originally Posted by PowerUp
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How do I transfer my domains to your registrar? I've tried applying for an account 2 times but got rejected. I want to keep my domains at Fabulous.



Hi PowerUp,

The wholesale prices are a value-added service for those customers that use either our monetization or aftermarket domain sales platforms.

To be eligible for these programs we require that you own a minimum of 50+ domains that meet our requirements. That is, generic/commercial domains that are English language, have type-in traffic and do not have an TM implications or are illegal/questionable in nature.

There are a number of metrics that we consider when approving accounts, two of the most important are Search Count and Advertiser Bids. The higher the score, the better the domain is.

If you can send me a PM with a list of your top 50 domains, taking into consideration my points above, I will review and action accordingly.


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I'm sort of running into the same problem. Looking back over the last couple of months, I found several domains that started out earning over $1 or $2 dollars per click on a consistent basis. A few are still about the same, but around two or three weeks ago, most started to slide and are now down to between 15 and 45 cents.



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Can you please send me your Fabulous username and I can investigate further for you.

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:02 PM   · #367
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With Fabulous, can you forward names instead of resetting nameservers?

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I don't think so; I have to keep several hundred of my domains at GoDaddy because I need full DNS access and Fabulous doesn't offer that.

You can forward an email address, I guess, but not the actual domain.
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Originally Posted by kev
With Fabulous, can you forward names instead of resetting nameservers?

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www.fabulous.com/mydomainname.com

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We do prefer that all domains parked on our program use our DNS. However, if you do need to use a URL redirect please contact me directly and I can provide you with details.

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Hi Mike,

I'd like to participate in Fabulous.com Domain Parking Program. I have a few domains that bring in high-quality(!) traffic in the poker niche. I have domains in other niches as well. Most of them are parked with Sedo at the moment.

I've applied 2 times and always got rejected. The thing is I do only park a few of my domains and the rest I try to develop. But I'm consistently buying new domains which I'm going to park.

It would be great if you could let me know how to gain access to your parking program.

Is there a minimum of domain names I have to park? Do you accept only .com or .net and .org, too?

Thanks for your time & help!
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Hi screamfine,

Basically we are looking for English language .com domains that consist of 2-3 commercial terms/phrases which receive type-in/direct navigation traffic. However, we are happy to review quality, .net, .org, .co.uk, .com.au, .ca and .us domains.

There are a number of metrics we take into consideration when reviewing portfolios. Two very important factors are whether or not the phrase/term the domain name consists of has a search count and/or paid advertisers in the major PPC search engines, Google/Overture.

We require that you have a portfolio that consists predominantly of these type of domains. Ideally we would like you to have 50+ domains that meet these requirements; however we are lenient on this amount, depending on the quality of domains.

Feel free to drop me a PM with your top 50 domains which you are able to park.

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Revshare split

Can someone tell me what is the rev split at Fabulous?

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Can someone tell me what is the rev split at Fabulous?

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Revenue split really does not matter.

What matters is how much you earn as compared to other parking companies.

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Can someone tell me what is the rev split at Fabulous?

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We don't actually disclose the % of the revenue that we share, except to say that you would receive a higher payout from us than if you negotiated directly with Google yourself.

Comparing %'s is like comparing apples with oranges as each parking company will receive a different rev share from their upstream provider. For example, Parking Company ABC may get 80%, whilst Parking Company XYZ may get 75%.

If ABC tells you that they will give you a 75% rev share, whilst XYZ says they will give an 80% rev share, your natural assumption would be to use XYZ. However, because you don't know what they are receiving from the upstream provider, these figures should not be used to compare providers.

We know we have probably got one of the best deals possible with Google, and we have been told by them that our traffic is of the best quality - so we don't suffer from the "Smart Pricing" that other companies do.

For those that don't know, "Smart Pricing" is Google's method of determining third party revenue based on conversion tracking data that they offer as a service to their advertisers. The lower the conversions the less revenue paid to the third party.

I guess at the end of the day we can all talk about percentages etc but what matters is the bottom line - the revenue generated per unique - and we know that we are probably the highest payers for the right kind of domains, period.

What I can say is that we allocate rev shares based on the volume and quality of traffic you send to our program. If you have large volumes of high quality, natural type-in traffic, you will receive a larger slice of the pie so to speak.

Let me know if there are any other questions.

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