[gazzip]

Originally Posted by Sedo

Hi Gazzup, ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/408817-sedo-com-official-thread.html Right now there is no way to remove traffic stats if the traffic amounts are over 50 uniques for the previous 32 days. We strongly beleive that the traffic helps to faciliatate negotiations on the markeptlace. However, we will take this feedback into consideration. Always, Keith

Hi Keith - Surely it just a case of giving us, the user/customer an option, it's not difficult, change the number to 10,000 - Most places don't show this kind of information. If a person wants to know they can ask.

I personally don't beleive it helps and I would like the choice to show stats or not....maybe its just time for me to go park elsewhere.

Considering that feature was more or less implemented from my suggestions to Mara I am very dissapointed with your non-committal answer

By the way - it took 6 months + to get an answer on that !


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[CoolMark]

I've just spent all day adding all my domains to sedo so that they can evaluate them for sedo pro but now I can't optimise them because every time I try to save the changes I get a blank page and the changes aren't saved.

I've tried all the obvious things like clearing the cache and cookies, disconnecting and reconnecting, using different browsers etc but I just keep getting the blank page or that stupoid "The page cannot be displayed" page.

I really do need to optimise them because the categories they've been given are either completely wrong or they have been left uncategorised.

Is the sedo site working this badly for everyone?

[seeker]

Friends,
I have been with SEDO since 2003.
They have become an absolute mess.
I advice anyone, and I mean ANYONE that wants to make money from domains to immediately look elsewhere.
The amount of non paying "buyers" at SEDO has become absolutely disproportionated to any gains whatsoever.
They were never good at paying PPC revenue, and the strong hold, which was sales, has become a joke.
People...
Look elsewhere....
SEDO has become a joke.

[Sleepys]

Anyone else's stats been frozen for the last couple of hours?

[upbeat]

Yes, frozen here for many hours....this happens many mornings. It worries me that I'm not getting credit for lots of views/clicks. Even with 600 names, I can go for 5 hours with no stats, then when it starts I'll get like three cents for the next hour and then a little here and there.

[Sleepys]

Mine just updated.

Sometimes it does seem that way. It also used to seem that way when my Parked stats would freeze also (sometimes). I think that maybe they just are occasionally slow hours, because sometimes they more than catch up. I think that my stats were frozen for 2 hours toady and the amount of stats that were added were the amount I normally get in 1 hour. Then again, I sometimes get that much in an hour. Oh well.

[upbeat]

My stats just updated too....kind of. They're not frozen. The revenue for the downtime was 27 cents....on 600 names in the sedopro program. So I'm pretty sure I'm missing revenue when stats freeze. The revenue never jumps like it's making up for the down tiime. I've brought this to sedo's attention, but they don't feel there's a problem. Im starting to look around at other ppc programs. I hate to do this, but it may become necessary.

[Sleepys]

That is too bad. As I said, the same thing has happenned to me at other companies. There have been times when I get a big jump for the amount that was missing instead of a smaller one too. I also look more at the visitors in a prolonged break, because those are usually very consistent for me, whereas the earnings can be really large or small for any given hour, depending on the EPC of the clicks for that hour.

[Andro]

Originally Posted by Andro

Hi I have few questions: How long do verifying process usualy go ? Why my domain is not verified but ads are displayed and number of visit is counted on a domain ? How can I ad a domain only for sale ? If I ad a domain only for sale without changing dns, will there be any problems with verifying because of that ? When I ad domain to the parking service, will it be better change dns befroe or after adding a domian ? Does it matter ? How I remember sometime ago I saw many domains with "reserve not met" on sedo sale list, now there are not to many like that, only brokerage domains. Did you change rules for that in the past ? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817 What does it mean a number of bids on sedo sale list ? Is it a number of bids which were not accepted by an owner ? Does it appling a flat 10% provision (without a minimum commision) for parked com domains depend from an sedo automatie system or from a sedo transaction consultant ? Regards Andro

There has not been answer for one month.

[Sedo]

Originally Posted by Andro

There has not been answer for one month.

Hi Andro,

Sorry, this one may have been overlooked. Your answers are below:

How long do verifying process usualy go?

This varies depending on the domain, and how accessible the Whois information is. If domains do not have readily available Whois information, they will usually get stuck and need manual verification by Sedo's staff. The best way to speed up this process is to make sure that the email address in the Whois matches the one in your Sedo account. Any further questions about this can be directed to riskmanagement@sedo.com.

Why my domain is not verified but ads are displayed and number of visit is counted on a domain ?

Domains that are pending verification may already be listed by another Sedo member (this is referred tas a "complaint," rather than a "new entry"). If this is the case, the domain will continue to resolve normally, but until it is verified, you will not receive statistics or other related information. Please refer to the prior answer for more info.

How can I ad a domain only for sale ? If I ad a domain only for sale without changing dns, will there be any problems with verifying because of that ?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

You simply have to list the domain in your Sedo account and not forward the domain's traffic to Sedo's servers. Again, the best way to avoid delays in verification is to make sure that your Whois information is readily available. If a domain is already listed, you can adjust the sales status via the Sales Overview of Domain Management.

When I ad domain to the parking service, will it be better change dns befroe or after adding a domian ? Does it matter ?

There is not a particular order. However, you may want to list the domain first, and once the domain has been verified, update the DNS at your registrar.

How I remember sometime ago I saw many domains with "reserve not met" on sedo sale list, now there are not to many like that, only brokerage domains. Did you change rules for that in the past ?

Any domain that has a preset reserve will display that message if the bidding activity has not yet passed the reserve amount. The reserve will never be disclosed in an auction unless it has been met. This has been in effect since Sedo began offering domain auctions. You may see more of this type of auction listing if you visit Sedo's website during a Premium Auction event.

What does it mean a number of bids on sedo sale list ? Is it a number of bids which were not accepted by an owner ?

This number reflects the total number of offers or bids that have been placed on a domain. If the domain is not in an auction, it will display the total number of offers that have been received by that particular seller for that domain over the previous 32 days. This amount includes both closed and current bid threads.

If a domain is in an auction, the information page will only display how many bids have been placed during that auction time.

Does it appling a flat 10% provision (without a minimum commision) for parked com domains depend from an sedo automatie system or from a sedo transaction consultant ?

The flat 10% commission should be applied automatically if the system recognizes your domain as parked for at least 32 days prior to the sales agreement. If this does not happen automatically, please work with your transfer agent to resolve the issue.


I hope that helps to clarify those questions for you. Take care!

Always,
Keith

[gazzip]

Hi Keith, any idea why one of my domains shows the following page of ads 3 times out of 4 when the keyword is set to - motocross ??

It gets over 200 visitors per month but the click rate is less than 5 %

Any suggestions ?

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one time out of 4 it shows actual motocross related ads shown below
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

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[jooster]

Hi Keith,

I was unimpressed with sedo and the stats when I used you guys a couple of years ago, however yesterday I decide to try you again, just with 1 domain to start with. It's a domain that to be honest trafficz haven't been performing as they should.
skin-treatment.com gets over 400 uniques a month on trafficz, it is a very generic and specifc domain yet I just receive 1 click on 6 months, I found this hard believe so I though I would park it with you guys and see if there was any difference.

I parked the domain yesterday with you and the dns updated quickly (well done)

I have to be honest though and let you know that I wanted to test and see if you gave true results.
I have an office in India so I skyped my staff and asked them to click a few times on the links, I would declare this afterwards but I needed to see if you would reflects these results in my account. They click on 10 different sponsors.

So why today do I see?

skin-treatment.com USD 5 1 €0.04

Firstly 5 uniques views is less than half the average reflected buy trafficz.
Secondly, several of those would have been from my office in India
Thirdly, how does 10 clicks just show as 1 click?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

I look forward to your reply.

[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by jooster

... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817 I have an office in India so I skyped my staff and asked them to click a few times on the links, I would declare this afterwards but I needed to see if you would reflects these results in my account. They click on 10 different sponsors.

Clicking on your own ads = a good way to have your account closed without notice
BTW Sedo does not pay for multiple clicks.

[mobite]

When will IDN resolve?

[jooster]

Originally Posted by sdsinc

Clicking on your own ads = a good way to have your account closed without notice ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817 BTW Sedo does not pay for multiple clicks.

Yes, I wonder why they will close it without notice... er, because they don't want anyone checking up on their figures.

It should pay when the clicks are from different staff on different computers

[Sleepys]

Originally Posted by jooster

Yes, I wonder why they will close it without notice... er, because they don't want anyone checking up on their figures. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817 It should pay when the clicks are from different staff on different computers

Actually, I think that they consider the same IP address to be the same user. They also might filter out some of the clicks if they get too many in a short period of time, that are close enough together in location (i.e. next door neighbors). That way you can't have a bunch of your friends in the same building. It reduces fraud.

Gazzip - Does you domain name have anything in it that could be related to paintball? I find that is often the reason that domains display incorrect ads. Sometimes Google or Yahoo decide that if they think that name of the domain matches some ads or a particular category, that the name is more important than the keyword.

Originally Posted by mobite

When will IDN resolve?

I believe that IDN's take the same amount of time to resolve as regular domains, which should not be much time at all.

[Sedo]

Originally Posted by gazzip

Hi Keith, any idea why one of my domains shows the following page of ads 3 times out of 4 when the keyword is set to - motocross ?? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817 It gets over 200 visitors per month but the click rate is less than 5 % Any suggestions ?

First off, what's the keyword you've been using? Also, have you tried adjusting it slightly with the same results? If you'd like, send me a PM, and I can look into it and see what we can come up with.

Originally Posted by jooster

I have to be honest though and let you know that I wanted to test and see if you gave true results. I have an office in India so I skyped my staff and asked them to click a few times on the links, I would declare this afterwards but I needed to see if you would reflects these results in my account. They click on 10 different sponsors. So why today do I see? skin-treatment.com USD 5 1 €0.04 Firstly 5 uniques views is less than half the average reflected buy trafficz. Secondly, several of those would have been from my office in India Thirdly, how does 10 clicks just show as 1 click?

First, keep in mind that a unique view is one from a particular user over a certain amount of time. This number is quite accurate and also does not factor in crawlers or bots from search engines and other similar services, which may cause your stats to increase. Essentially, this is a truer representation of how many different visitors your parked domain receives.

As far as clicks go, if the system registers them as being from the same visitor, it may not record all of them. We can look into it, but we do ask that regardless of your testing intentions that you refrain from asking anyone to visit/click on your ads. It is correct that this type of activity can cause your account to be flagged, and we don't want that (especially since you have been quite forthright). Also, note that the system is on a slight delay and may not report all visits or clicks instantaneously.

Originally Posted by mobite

When will IDN resolve?

Many IDNs are supported by Sedo's parking program and marketplace. Is there a particular IDN you're referring to? Please clarify a bit. Thanks!

Take care!

Always,
Keith

[gazzip]

Originally Posted by Sedo

First off, what's the keyword you've been using? Also, have you tried adjusting it slightly with the same results? If you'd like, send me a PM, and I can look into it and see what we can come up with. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817 Keith

Keyword is motocross - PM on the way with the domain, thanks for the quick reply


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[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by Sleepys

Actually, I think that they consider the same IP address to be the same user.

Yes, same office => most likely same IP to the outside (IP WAN address).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

Originally Posted by Sleepys

They also might filter out some of the clicks if they get too many in a short period of time, ...

Not sure which criteria they use, but repeated visits from the same IP address within say 24 hours might qualify as 1 unique view only.

Originally Posted by jooster

Yes, I wonder why they will close it without notice... er, because they don't want anyone checking up on their figures.

One thing you can do is host the domain on your servers and redirect to sedoparking.com/yourdomain.com.
So you will get the full traffic stats for your domain (even raw webserver logs to scrub). Of course you have to filter out bot traffic etc. All parking companies filter the traffic and discard/cap multiple clicks, not just Sedo.
Then you can compare your figures with theirs.

[Sleepys]

It seems you were writing that answer as I was Keith. I thought that I could save you some time, but your replies are better than mine anyway. Oh Well.

I thought that I would post here about the new template option at Sedopro. I think that most everyone on Sedopro got an email about this, but it does not explain to much and I have gotten some extra information about this from my account manager. I suggested this exact template optimization system to Sedo a couple of months ago, but I assume that they were already working on something like it, due to the speed in which they have implemented it .

The new template option is called "Auto-Optimize". It is basically a system to take the guesswork out of choosing a template. Sometimes it is hard to tell if a the keyword or template need to be changed and sometimes it is hard to tell if the new template made the difference or if the new keyword did. This auto-optimize feature will cycle through every template and figure out which one performs best for that particular name. I was a little worried that the system might settle on the wrong template if it happens to outperform on that particular time period (even though I know that the Lite template is the worst, if a name gets a high click for the day or two it is set, the system might think the Lite template is the best choice). They have gotten around this problem by setting the testing period to a month, meaning that you have more than a day or two on each template. This system can be implemented on a domain by domain basis or on a portfolio wide basis if you ask your account manager. I am going to try it on my whole account (except for adult) and see if it does anything. I think that this feature is currently only available for Sedopro users.

Here is the email from Sedo if any of you did not get one:

"The last few weeks have brought about some interesting changes in the domain monetization space. We've witnessed upstream advertisers change policy with regards to arbitrage, parking lander guidelines, and even discontinuing feed-syndication to certain providers.

Sedo.com has always been committed to anticipating these types of shifts in the industry, which is why we're happy to report a seamless transition as promised to our valued clientele. This is why now is the perfect time to extend your SedoPro referral invitations to domainers that may be affected by some of these industry changes!

Additionally, we've just released a valuable new feature for SedoPro clients this week called "Auto-Select best Layout." This new option automatically finds and selects the top-earning layout for each of your parked domains. Initial tests have demonstrated a 20-30% boost in parking revenue after activating this new feature across an entire portfolio!

You can try it out in your account by choosing the "Auto-Select" option in your Domain Optimizer page. As always, please don't hesitate to contact me directly for more information about this new tool, or to hear more ideas I have for increasing the earnings of your portfolio!"
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

In my opinion this is a great new feature and I am excited to try it out.

[jooster]

Originally Posted by Sedo

First, keep in mind that a unique view is one from a particular user over a certain amount of time. This number is quite accurate and also does not factor in crawlers or bots from search engines and other similar services, which may cause your stats to increase. Essentially, this is a truer representation of how many different visitors your parked domain receives. As far as clicks go, if the system registers them as being from the same visitor, it may not record all of them. We can look into it, but we do ask that regardless of your testing intentions that you refrain from asking anyone to visit/click on your ads. It is correct that this type of activity can cause your account to be flagged, and we don't want that (especially since you have been quite forthright). Also, note that the system is on a slight delay and may not report all visits or clicks instantaneously.

So if someone in an office comes across the parking page and they tell a freind in the office and both click then we only get paid once??

That seems a little unfair!

Also if they click on a 2 or more of the ads because they are looking for something and didn'y find what they wanted on the first ad then we still only get paid once even though in both cases all advertisers would have paid for the clicks to their sites?

So who see that money if we don't?

It seems to me that the by product of parking companies doing all that they can to avoid paying out to people abuse the system is people who don't abuse the system miss out on getting paid on a lot of genuine hits.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

Will sedo pay for multiple clicks in the future like other companies are?
If not then I have to say that they won't be getting my business.
My business partner also has around 25,000 domains that used to be with you which he moved to trafficz, you have been phoning recently to try and get us to move back to you, but this just doesn't work for me.

Not sure the other companies are much better but maybe one day someone will come out with a solution that is fairer to the domain parker.

[Sedo]

Originally Posted by Sleepys

It seems you were writing that answer as I was Keith. I thought that I could save you some time, but your replies are better than mine anyway. Oh Well. .... In my opinion this is a great new feature and I am excited to try it out.

Hi Sleepys,

Your responses are quite good, and very well-informed, and I can say that the NamePros/Sedo community benefits from having you around. By all means, keep up the good work and keep posting (as that's what forums are for). :-)

And yes, we're also very excited about the auto layout rotation feature. It should help our members make the most out of the parking program with less effort and less analysis.

Originally Posted by jooster

It seems to me that the by product of parking companies doing all that they can to avoid paying out to people abuse the system is people who don't abuse the system miss out on getting paid on a lot of genuine hits. Will sedo pay for multiple clicks in the future like other companies are? If not then I have to say that they won't be getting my business. My business partner also has around 25,000 domains that used to be with you which he moved to trafficz, you have been phoning recently to try and get us to move back to you, but this just doesn't work for me. Not sure the other companies are much better but maybe one day someone will come out with a solution that is fairer to the domain parker.

Thanks for this feedback. I unfortunately cannot give out much detail as to the specifics of our parking program, concerning multiple clicks or where revenue ends up. For the most part, this isn't something discussed outside of those people directly invovled in parking at Sedo. However, I can certainly make sure this information and your requests are passed on to the people who make these decisions.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

Take care!

[Sleepys]

Matt Bentley of Sedo talks breifly about how Sedo handles multiple clicks in this interview: http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-...y-of-sedo.html

Basically they try to pay you the amount that the visitor earned, but their system only will show 1 click for each visitor at most. Sedo is one of the only companies that pays for clicks as they occur, without recalculating the following day. If they significantly underpaid you or overpaid you, then they try to correct it as the name gets more clicks, meaning that they try to pay you the total earnings of the name, they just report the clicks differently. This is how I always assumed they handled multiple clicks. Here is a very common scenario for me. I have a name at Sedo, it gets a click for every 2 or 3 visitors, but the clicks are for $1-$3. I then move it somewhere else that pays multiple clicks and it gets 2-3 clicks per visitor, but only at $.05-$.10. It is a trade off. Some names do better with multiple clicks that pay me less, some do better with less reported clicks, but at higher EPC.

The multiple click issue is kind of becomming old news. By that I mean that I don't expect any changes in the way the various parking companies report their clicks/earnings any time soon. I think that the new template auto-optimize feature is a more exciting topic for discussion anyway.

[jooster]

I just feel this whole thing should be simple, the advertisers are normally paying 0.50 to $5+ for a click we should get our fair share for each and every click and that should be the end of it.

"I unfortunately cannot give out much detail as to the specifics of our parking program, concerning multiple clicks or where revenue ends up. For the most part, this isn't something discussed outside of those people directly invovled in parking at Sedo."
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=408817

I appreciate your situation in what you can and can't say keith but I am sure you guy are still getting paid on the clicks we are not. It all just seems a little unfair..

Anyway as sleepys says it doesn't sound like this will change whatever we say, it's old news.
This thread was just started by asking what you could do to improve and be better then the competitors an get our business.

This is just my 2 cents worth.

You're missing out on about 27,000 domains from my side but I guess this is small fry to the over all amout you have on your books.

[netmeg]

Originally Posted by jooster

I just feel this whole thing should be simple, the advertisers are normally paying 0.50 to $5+ for a click we should get our fair share for each and every click and that should be the end of it.

Yea? what about the advertisers' fair share on those ten clicks you were responsible for yourself?