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Old 02-08-2008, 01:22 AM   · #176
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IMHO it'll pretty much depend on the LLL.net and LLLL.com markets as it has been stated before.

LLL.net's / 26 or LLLL.com / 10 (maybe 5)

I don't see the whole sale price for LLLL.net skyrocketing any time soon, but I believe it'll grow up to $30-$35 at least by year end.

Well, at least now we see that $9 is the minimum one can find, soon to raise up to $12...


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Old 02-08-2008, 03:44 AM   · #177
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Originally Posted by Michael_Goldman
Well, you can't base it on dnjournal reports, most (if not all) their sales are end users and you know you can sell any domain you want for any price to an end user as long as he's interested in it and can afford the price.


Premium LLLL.com's seem to have a min price of around $400-500 now, so I think by the end of the year when premium LLLL.com's hit $1K min, premium LLLL.net's should be worth $50-100 too




No Michael , pay attention to the list of DNJ , there are also several 4 or 5 figures deal that are bought from other domainers..... my Cairns.mobi sold for $3,000 was just an example.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:24 AM   · #178
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Reported Domain Sales - Mon. Jan. 28, 2008 - Sun. Feb. 3, 2008:
Ludo.net $2,400
AMNB.net $1,988
Alle.net $1,700
amso.net $1,539
icfm.net $1,252
gebo.net $1,056

And I think that a lot more domains were sold to end-users in 100$-800$ range but were not reported at DNJournal. Look at this nice possible ROI If you have 1000 premium LLLL.net domains you have a nice chance that it will be your domain that is sold for 2000$

Jan. 14, 2007 - Sun. Jan. 27, 2008
Lnet.net $2,600
gasb.net $1,271

Mon. Jan. 7, 2007 - Sun. Jan. 13, 2008
mdrc.net $1,713

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Mpro.net $2,488
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:53 AM   · #179
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Originally Posted by italiandragon
No Michael , pay attention to the list of DNJ , there are also several 4 or 5 figures deal that are bought from other domainers..... my Cairns.mobi sold for $3,000 was just an example.


Lorenzo, I'm talking about LLLL.net's, no domainer would pay 4 figures for a domain that's worth $25
It's good to see that there's some end user interest in these though.

Congrats on that .mobi sale
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:02 AM   · #180
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In case it tells us a little something about LLLL.net values...

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:12 AM   · #181
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:13 AM   · #182
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And I think that a lot more domains were sold to end-users in 100$-800$ range but were not reported at DNJournal. Look at this nice possible ROI If you have 1000 premium LLLL.net domains you have a nice chance that it will be your domain that is sold for 2000$




Excellent point.

Does anyone have info on the %'age of LLLL.com's that are developed as this will seriously effect LLLL.net enduser prices (not to mention soaring .com prices) PLUS they will have no other "better" option. As well with all the LLLL.info's etc being slowly bought, when the "LLLL sellout in all extensions" happens the sellers market will become VERY strong.

note: I have no idea if that would ever occur -a total LLLL buyout in all the major ext. but nothing wrong with wishful thinking.


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Old 02-08-2008, 11:20 AM   · #183
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What I don't understand is a firm with around $4-5 million could corner the market and buy up all remaining .ORG, .NET and .INFO LLLL's, which would drive up the prices for everyone. I don't see why there aren't any investment firms willing to do this, especially with the proof of the LLLL.com price explosion....
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:27 AM   · #184
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What I don't understand is a firm with around $4-5 million could corner the market and buy up all remaining .ORG, .NET and .INFO LLLL's, which would drive up the prices for everyone. I don't see why there aren't any investment firms willing to do this, especially with the proof of the LLLL.com price explosion....


I'm sure that a couple of people have created a model and decide to wait. IMO if you set your model for a modest ROI the buy out could be done now.

A complete buyout by one entity would create several challenges and pitfalls....
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What I don't understand is a firm with around $4-5 million could corner the market and buy up all remaining .ORG, .NET and .INFO LLLL's, which would drive up the prices for everyone. I don't see why there aren't any investment firms willing to do this, especially with the proof of the LLLL.com price explosion....


John, did you hear about the previous LLLL.com buyout? Not sure exactly about the year, but I think it was around 2000, a company bought all remaining LLLL.com's. Investment of a few million $, but the market wasn't ready, there weren't enough domainers at that time, so the next year they dropped all the names. a 100% loss

I think one player can't just boost the prices, LLLL.com's were now bought out by many smaller investors and that ensures stability as they were all well aware of the risks and ready to spend money for renewals. Imho if one person/company buys half of the LLLL.net names, it might not create the desired effect.
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I think one player can't just boost the prices, LLLL.com's were now bought out by many smaller investors and that insures stability. Imho if one person/company buys half of the names, it might not create the desired effect.



Desired effect with be decreased supply/increased demand. Isn't the amount of people getting onto the net supposed to grow by 40% alone just this year? Plus more and more people are finding out about domaining every day. Wait till domaining is more mainstream and "a lot" of people have some of their money invested in this area of investing.

We are investors that have thought outside of the bureaucratic "box" of old school banking. We are way ahead of the curve, wait until mainstream catches up. It would be great one day to goto Smith Barney or where ever and ask to see all the funds that deal with internet domaining. But I am getting waaay ahead of myself. Who knows where this will lead but I do know money follows money...

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Well I decided I am going to gamble a little on LLLL.net's.

I have sold a few for $10-$100 a pop already after holding them for less then a month.
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It seems very odd that any company would just invest a lot of money on a short term plan. You'd think they would have held onto the names for a couple of years...

All the 4 letter .coms were registered in the fall of 2000. Therefore, it seems to me that their registration fee would have been due around the time of the 9/11 bomibing of 2001. Perhaps the sudden downfall of the stock market and market instability was more of a reason for the drop of the 4 letter .coms than the lack of domain buyers.
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I had a buddy who sold gems on ebay, he said around 9-11 he couldn't sell anything anymore. No one wanted to spend their money and I bet this had something to do with dropping all of the LLLL.com's.
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I'm surprised at the number of 4L.net's that I have that are getting traffic.



Now here's a great point...

I have around 400 LLLL's parked atm and only 30% are .Nets, somehow they're getting 90% of the traffic...
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Right now I have them all parked with Fab because is was easiest. I might move the traffic names over to Domain Sponsor so I can take advantage of the auto-optimization of the keywords.
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I'm surprised at the number of 4L.net's that I have that are getting traffic.


i get traffic on .nets too, more than on .coms
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ahh, gr8
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