LLLL.net COUNTDOWN - Page 2

BLazeD · 12-06-2007, 01:18 PM

Sorry in saying "We have 5 letter .com's, countries and cities we've never heard of... all "the next big thing" I meant those threads are all hyped up too and I don't agree with them.

xman · 12-06-2007, 01:21 PM

Here are other sales for LLLL.net

BuyDomains
hara $3,088 - 01/17/07
beco $2,980 - 01/17/07
xpsl $1,605 - 01/24/07
wlnp $1,888 - 01/04/07

Sedo:
caia $544 - 12/03/07
nima $900 - 11/14/07
rapn $150 - 10/29/07
casy $210 - 10/08/07
aaah $200 - 04/14/07
dnam $861 - 04/11/07
nics $500 - 03/31/07
okya - $200 - 03/25/07
zash - $466 - 03/15/07
quex - $399 - 02/09/07
miru - $665 - 01/11/07

TDNam
hwav $369 09/29/07
xqzy $449 09/26/07

Snap
walt - $825 01/24/07

VURG · 12-06-2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

These are being scanned in Godaddy using the bulk registration tool. It's somewhat time consuming, however, I feel it yields some of the best results in terms of time versus accuracy. If anyone has a better solution for the job, please send me a pm or post it here.

Reece, do you sleep at night? Sounds like a huge job!

I think that the LLLL.net have a good chance of running out but there is a high chance that this kind of thread is ahead of it's time.

There is around ~50% LLLL.net registered. For the LLLL.com, there was around 50% LLLL.com bought out in 2002. This was a 5 year gap between the buyout and the halfway mark. From my understanding, there is a trend that the rate of internet expansion is slowing down and so I wouldn't be suprised if it takes longer than 5 years for these domains to run out.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/403871-llll-net-countdown.html

The CCC.net were bought out early due to RegisterFly discounting and there has been over a year of drops where it is only now starting to attract interest. A lot of people lost a lot of money with the CCC.net by buying too early. The CCC.info has the same negative stories. (That is why I disagree with discounting for the first year for domains as domainers lose money by buying domains before their time.)

The LLLL.com buyout journey has many successes but also many tragic stories of people losing thousands of dollars by buying too early. I expect a LLLL.net buyout to have more failures. You got to be careful with this one.

There are some gems in the rough. As a rule of thumb, I would say that if the LLLL.com is worth less than $400 than the LLLL.net is a risk.

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 01:55 PM

Thanks for stopping by VURG

I agree with your analysis 100%. I think some people (not you) misconstrued my intentions here... I'm recommending people hunt through my list for premiums (easy to find by doing Ctrl + H [Replace] and changing every bad letter to nothing, then scan through Godaddy [all LLL.net being regged, of course, leaving only quad premium LLLL.nets]).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

Names like ESLR.net may be worth the risk imho, while ZQVJ.net (I said it again!) isn't. Once I get through the entire list, I'm sure there'll be several hundred, maybe even a few thousand worthy of being regged imho.

Originally Posted by VURG

Reece, do you sleep at night? Sounds like a huge job!

I think that the LLLL.net have a good chance of running out but there is a high chance that this kind of thread is ahead of it's time.

There is around ~50% LLLL.net registered. For the LLLL.com, there was around 50% LLLL.com bought out in 2002. This was a 5 year gap between the buyout and the halfway mark. From my understanding, there is a trend that the rate of internet expansion is slowing down and so I wouldn't be suprised if it takes longer than 5 years for these domains to run out.

The CCC.net were bought out early due to RegisterFly discounting and there has been over a year of drops where it is only now starting to attract interest. A lot of people lost a lot of money with the CCC.net by buying too early. The CCC.info has the same negative stories. (That is why I disagree with discounting for the first year for domains as domainers lose money by buying domains before their time.)

The LLLL.com buyout journey has many successes but also many tragic stories of people losing thousands of dollars by buying too early. I expect a LLLL.net buyout to have more failures. You got to be careful with this one.

There are some gems in the rough. As a rule of thumb, I would say that if the LLLL.com is worth less than $400 than the LLLL.net is a risk.

xman · 12-06-2007, 01:56 PM

Quote:

I think that the LLLL.net have a good chance of running out but there is a high chance that this kind of thread is ahead of it's time.

Some can foresee the future and started investing early but for me I have to look at my Crystal Ball. If I end buying a couple hundred of these LLLL.net to hold in a couple of years and end up losing money I could always say "I shouldn't have bought that darn Crystal Ball in eBay."

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by BLazeD

Sorry in saying "We have 5 letter .com's, countries and cities we've never heard of... all "the next big thing" I meant those threads are all hyped up too and I don't agree with them.

The only 2 seriously hyped investments I ever bought into were LLLL.com and .mobi. LLLL.com has paid off quite nicely.. .mobi looks like it'll likely do the same

This (or any of those threads you've mentioned and not mentioned) certainly aren't the kind of things you go wild on and reg 1600 of...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

But regging a few names like DubaiHotel.com DubaiAirport.com, DubaiTravel.com, etc certainly can't hurt -- as long as you don't overdo it. If you were to take all the hyped extensions/ideas pertinent to domaining over the last 3-4 years and allot them an equal amount of money to invest in, you'd actually have done quite well for yourself..

The problem arises when people start trying to predict what will be the next LLL.com, CCC.com, NNNN.com, etc. Same reason we had so many people cry foul with .eu... Invest intelligently - diversify. I would never put all my eggs in a non-.com basket, no matter how sure I was of the investment's potential...

***EG.domains*** · 12-06-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

The only 2 seriously hyped investments I ever bought into were LLLL.com and .mobi. LLLL.com has paid off quite nicely.. .mobi looks like it'll likely do the same

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

This (or any of those threads you've mentioned and not mentioned) certainly aren't the kind of things you go wild on and reg 1600 of...

But regging a few names like DubaiHotel.com DubaiAirport.com, DubaiTravel.com, etc certainly can't hurt -- as long as you don't overdo it. If you were to take all the hyped extensions/ideas pertinent to domaining over the last 3-4 years and allot them an equal amount of money to invest in, you'd actually have done quite well for yourself..

The problem arises when people start trying to predict what will be the next LLL.com, CCC.com, NNNN.com, etc. Same reason we had so many people cry foul with .eu... Invest intelligently - diversify. I wouldn't never put all my eggs in a non-.com basket, no matter how sure I was of the investment's potential...

Okie great. You understand that. but what about,

Originally Posted by Reece

the amount of new members and new money flowing into domaining everyday

Once they see your thread title "LLLL.net COUNTDOWN" they will just jump into the lists and start loading themselves with non-secure investment.

It have been better if your topic was about Hunting premium LLLL.net which still not 100% secure.

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 02:30 PM

Once I have the entire scan done (should be a day or 2), I'll get rid of every name that isn't at least triple premium.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

edit: Thinking about that... Maybe a newbie recommend link and an experts only one

Meh.. I'll figure something out.. Some good names have a bad letter or 2, but I agree that newbies regging ZQVJ...

Originally Posted by eg.domains

Okie great. You understand that. but what about,

Once they see your thread title "LLLL.net COUNTDOWN" they will just jump into the lists and start loading themselves with non-secure investment.

It have been better if your topic was about Hunting premium LLLL.net which still not 100% secure.

Ergo · 12-06-2007, 02:46 PM

about premium LLLL.net - only 15% are available as far as I remember.
I saw premium LLLL.coms are offered at prices around 4000$ to end users. Isn't the same LLLL.net for 200$ a good alternative for a small company? I think all LLLL.net will never be sold out, but premium LLLL.net will certainly be! And it will be very soon.

1john2004 · 12-06-2007, 02:47 PM

More LLLL.net sales (tdnam):
FIFI - 520
BOCO-270

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 02:50 PM

A disclaimer has been added to the thread:

New Member Disclaimer: Four letter domain names are a relatively new investment category that is only beginning to gain traction in Dotcom. This domaining sector offers potentially larger returns than traditional revenue or traffic based domain names, however with this investment opportunity comes extravagant risk.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

Only invest in 4 letter domain names what you can afford to lose.
I do not recommend new domainers invest more than 20% of their total investment in 4 letter .coms or more than 25% collectively between 4 letter .coms and 4 letter domain names in other extensions. Investments in 4 letter extensions other than dotcom should be capped at a maximum of 10% of investable assets.

***Dotmainer*** · 12-06-2007, 03:17 PM

Reece can you please edit your first Post. It make it huge to scroll right / left , up / down.

Thanks.

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-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 03:22 PM

Sorry Zoki,

Is it fixed now for you?

Originally Posted by zoki

Reece can you please edit your first Post. It make it huge to scroll right / left , up / down.

Thanks.

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epasaport · 12-06-2007, 03:33 PM

I cannot download the list

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 03:37 PM

Hi Epasaport,

Welcome to Namepros!

The easiest way to get the list is to open it, then hit Ctrl + A (select all), Ctrl + C (copy)and then open Notepad and hit Ctrl + V (paste).

Originally Posted by epasaport

I cannot download the list

***Dotmainer*** · 12-06-2007, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

Sorry Zoki,

Is it fixed now for you?

yes, thank you

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 03:57 PM

G through I scan is now up, enjoy!

rickkumar · 12-06-2007, 04:03 PM

LLLL.Net are NOT going to be profitable for a long long time, they will perhaps be a net money loser imo.

New Domainers should stay away from LLLL.Net imo.

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 04:11 PM

Depends on which LLLL.nets... CVCV.nets are already profitable. I'm doing a VCVC scan right now and can't seem to find much of anything...

I do think some quad premium .nets are an investment worth their risk. And it seems I'm not alone as some of the names I've posted have bitten the dust

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

Originally Posted by rickkumar

LLLL.Net are NOT going to be profitable for a long long time, they will perhaps be a net money loser imo.

New Domainers should stay away from LLLL.Net imo.

***Dotmainer*** · 12-06-2007, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by rickkumar

LLLL.Net are NOT going to be profitable for a long long time, they will perhaps be a net money loser imo.

New Domainers should stay away from LLLL.Net imo.

3. ^ Whats message behind such unqualified comments ?

1. Had idea about this thread, but haven't time to do scan

2. Why everytime comes to some anti-hype in (like) this threads
No-one told that they are $ xxx.xxx worth, but there are allways some members of DNHG (Dot Net Hater Group) which thinks, they should fight against .NET ? To save .COM ? or tell that only .COM have value ?

4. Nice thread Reece

5. And would be more nicer if we can stay just on CountDown or CountUp of LLLL.NET , just to have stats !
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

just my 2cents

rickkumar · 12-06-2007, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by zoki

3. ^ Whats message behind such unqualified comments ?

1. Had idea about this thread, but haven't time to do scan

2. Why everytime comes to some anti-hype in (like) this threads
No-one told that they are $ xxx.xxx worth, but there are allways some members of DNHG (Dot Net Hater Group) which thinks, they should fight against .NET ? To save .COM ? or tell that only .COM have value ?

4. Nice thread Reece

5. And would be more nicer if we can stay just on CountDown or CountUp of LLLL.NET , just to have stats !
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871

just my 2cents

OK, I spoke from my experience. It is very easy to register tons of domains but come renewal time....its not that much fun any more.

Some .net especially the pronounceable ones will be profitable but I don't see the others becoming profitable soon.

If you understand your investment and have some risk money, then you can go for it

KingDon · 12-06-2007, 04:46 PM

Don't all these threads start out this way? Here's how I believe it will play out. LLLL's will start getting $50-$100 a piece, then the VCVC, CVCV, CVVC and VCCV's .NET's will all get registered. After that, there will be another long time period for the dwindling down of the available choice letters; until one day we find ourselves realizing they're all gone.

So ummmm, who wants to start naming a sell out date?

***Dotmainer*** · 12-06-2007, 05:01 PM

^ CVCV.NET are sold out ....

i would tell 05.12.2008

(still not sure about that i would never buy ZQVJ.net .. but i would never buy ZQVJ.com too)

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gwkg · 12-06-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by BLazeD

You are creating your own hype.

Isn't that marketing 101?

Besides, CVCV.net has been sold out for months. If this thread was created 6 months ago, more members might be cashing in nicely right now.

-REECE- · 12-06-2007, 05:30 PM

Some nice ones

12-06-2007, 01:21 PM	#27 (permalink)
xman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: X-I Posts: 2,878	Here are other sales for LLLL.net BuyDomains hara $3,088 - 01/17/07 beco $2,980 - 01/17/07 xpsl $1,605 - 01/24/07 wlnp $1,888 - 01/04/07 Sedo: caia $544 - 12/03/07 nima $900 - 11/14/07 rapn $150 - 10/29/07 casy $210 - 10/08/07 aaah $200 - 04/14/07 dnam $861 - 04/11/07 nics $500 - 03/31/07 okya - $200 - 03/25/07 zash - $466 - 03/15/07 quex - $399 - 02/09/07 miru - $665 - 01/11/07 TDNam hwav $369 09/29/07 xqzy $449 09/26/07 Snap walt - $825 01/24/07 __________________ Vegetarian Hut ~ Sc.am

12-06-2007, 02:46 PM	#34 (permalink)
Ergo NameDato.com Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jackson's Whole Posts: 3,296	about premium LLLL.net - only 15% are available as far as I remember. I saw premium LLLL.coms are offered at prices around 4000$ to end users. Isn't the same LLLL.net for 200$ a good alternative for a small company? I think all LLLL.net will never be sold out, but premium LLLL.net will certainly be! And it will be very soon. __________________ calling cards \| japanese used cars exporters \| japanese used cars

12-06-2007, 02:47 PM	#35 (permalink)
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12-06-2007, 03:17 PM	#37 (permalink)
*Dotmainer* Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,249	Reece can you please edit your first Post. It make it huge to scroll right / left , up / down. Thanks. --- __________________ █ █ █

12-06-2007, 04:46 PM	#47 (permalink)
KingDon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,176	Don't all these threads start out this way? Here's how I believe it will play out. LLLL's will start getting $50-$100 a piece, then the VCVC, CVCV, CVVC and VCCV's .NET's will all get registered. After that, there will be another long time period for the dwindling down of the available choice letters; until one day we find ourselves realizing they're all gone. So ummmm, who wants to start naming a sell out date? __________________ I'm going for personal success rather than the lottery; the odds are MUCH better. Not everyone who smiles while listening to your achievements, is planning on congratulating you.

12-06-2007, 01:18 PM	#26 (permalink)
BLazeD Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,678	Sorry in saying "We have 5 letter .com's, countries and cities we've never heard of... all "the next big thing" I meant those threads are all hyped up too and I don't agree with them.

12-06-2007, 02:50 PM	THREAD STARTER #36 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,996	A disclaimer has been added to the thread: New Member Disclaimer: Four letter domain names are a relatively new investment category that is only beginning to gain traction in Dotcom. This domaining sector offers potentially larger returns than traditional revenue or traffic based domain names, however with this investment opportunity comes extravagant risk. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403871 Only invest in 4 letter domain names what you can afford to lose. I do not recommend new domainers invest more than 20% of their total investment in 4 letter .coms or more than 25% collectively between 4 letter .coms and 4 letter domain names in other extensions. Investments in 4 letter extensions other than dotcom should be capped at a maximum of 10% of investable assets.

12-06-2007, 03:33 PM	#39 (permalink)
epasaport Account Closed Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 517	I cannot download the list

12-06-2007, 03:57 PM	THREAD STARTER #42 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,996	G through I scan is now up, enjoy!

12-06-2007, 04:03 PM	#43 (permalink)
rickkumar NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lost Posts: 512	LLLL.Net are NOT going to be profitable for a long long time, they will perhaps be a net money loser imo. New Domainers should stay away from LLLL.Net imo.

12-06-2007, 05:01 PM	#48 (permalink)
*Dotmainer* Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,249	^ CVCV.NET are sold out .... i would tell 05.12.2008 (still not sure about that i would never buy ZQVJ.net .. but i would never buy ZQVJ.com too) - __________________ █ █ █

12-06-2007, 05:30 PM	THREAD STARTER #50 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,996	Some nice ones

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