I bid $611,000 for music.mobi - Lawsuit Pending - Page 2

Mobi Cheap · 12-06-2007, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by alexsimon

...And when do end users bid? Wait or the last minute of the auction? No .... they throw in their maximum bid well before the end of the auction. ...

Must say the above conflicts directly with what my own experience suggests, but I'm just one person so I may be wrong.
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On ebay at least though, the above statement doesn't seem to reflect what usually happens - and I'm talking here asset categories that are almost exclusively bought by end users.

Alex · 12-06-2007, 10:17 AM

Well, I may be wrong on that Mobi cheap. I do not have experience in this, it was just an assumption.

tophatter · 12-06-2007, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

You know what my left ear is suggesting to my brain right now:

is it possible that this "event" occurred "under pressure" of MTLD because they were "not happy" of the (1th) selling price?

I mean....one thing is $66,000 , another one is $616,000...

I always think bad....

I thought the same thing at one point than I said ,,NA! why would a ligit biz do that,, Legit ????MMMMM!!!!
Buisiness is a dirty place and what way to stir up hype that to have your servers crash, when you think of it what a stratagy but I too honest to think along those lines,

Regards

Acroplex · 12-06-2007, 11:46 AM

I'm not a .mobi acolyte; in fact, I believe it's one of the most overly hyped and overvalued TLD's ever. However, if Costa can establish a case with Sedo it will be a case study against such events. The auction marketplace is exploding right now and millions of dollars are at stake. Perhaps even to the point of having denial of service attacks during the course of such events. The next logical step would be to have private networks hosting these events with pre-approved bidders.

At any rate, good luck Costa - kali tyxi

Mobi Cheap · 12-06-2007, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

... The next logical step would be to have private networks hosting these events with pre-approved bidders.
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At any rate, good luck Costa - kali tyxi

Can't miss this rare chance to agree with Acroplex on the quoted bit above.

Kali tyxi!

domi · 12-06-2007, 12:32 PM

Mr Roussos. I see you are a part of a very large organization.
Real Estate, Entertainment ect...
I see you are an intelligent person especially if you run all these projects. If you feel you have been wronged, your instinct will tell you what to do. It is unfortunate with what happened and it only details more on the misuse of the internet business.There must be a government controlled or government audited policy in place with the domain market or Human instinct and greed will contine to corrupt this business.I hope you find peace in the end with this mishap.

biggie · 12-06-2007, 02:03 PM

1, 2, and 3 part auctions for the same names?

further adds to the hype on dot enron...i mean .mobi

it sounds much better for .mobi if the names sells for $616K, than $60K

Mobi Cheap · 12-06-2007, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by biggie

...
it sounds much better for .mobi if the names sells for $616K, than $60K

Seriously? I thought we were just told in this forum that so much so soon cannot possibly be good for .mobi itself.
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DNWizardX9 · 12-06-2007, 04:08 PM

so much for having the top names developed....

What happened the RFP process lol

Mobi Cheap · 12-06-2007, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by DNWizardX9

so much for having the top names developed....

What happened the RFP process lol

They will have to be developed within six months, or else (in the contractual sense).
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So what you saw yesterday was effectively - as I have said before - RFP 2.0.

Acroplex · 12-06-2007, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mobi Cheap

Can't miss this rare chance to agree with Acroplex on the quoted bit above.

We can agree to disagree

Mobi Cheap · 12-06-2007, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

We can agree to disagree

Sure, any time

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Just kidding: too much going on to have a proper debate on the broader issues right now, but if there is any particular part in what I said above that doesn't make sense I would be glad to elaborate - I know not all is intuitively obvious.

namewaiter · 12-06-2007, 05:11 PM

nice to see all the dnf naysayers make an appearance here at namepros .mobi forum.

look forward to hearing more.

accent · 12-06-2007, 05:28 PM

"Any publicity is good publicity"

Mtld better hope that this is true here.

While I assume Mtld was in contact during the post auction I conference, they are not the responsible party - Sedo is. Sedo set themselves up as an auction house (not very long ago, by the way), they wrote the TOS. This is their mess, not Mtld's.

I feel for the OP. He sounds to have a great plan for Music.mobi and I hope he gets it. I imagine Mtld did not give him the name in RFP because they wanted Sony, Apple, Capital records - some top player.

Mtld is guilty of over-reaching for that, but this badly messed up auction is all on Sedo.

Pred · 12-06-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by accentnepal

"Any publicity is good publicity"
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Mtld better hope that this is true here.

While I assume Mtld was in contact during the post auction I conference, they are not the responsible party - Sedo is. Sedo set themselves up as an auction house (not very long ago, by the way), they wrote the TOS. This is their mess, not Mtld's.

I feel for the OP. He sounds to have a great plan for Music.mobi and I hope he gets it. I imagine Mtld did not give him the name in RFP because they wanted Sony, Apple, Capital records - some top player.

Mtld is guilty of over-reaching for that, but this badly messed up auction is all on Sedo.

my sentiments exactly
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-OutlawBiker- · 12-06-2007, 06:00 PM

I liked the Music.us idea, but why would you need the stinkin mobi? Why blow all that cash when you can just do mobi.Music.us or Mobile.Music.us? Sounds better to me anyway.

Was wondering when people would catch on to the conflict in these auctions where there exists NO use of a chinese wall as in the stock market. I'd think one of the first things your attorney would look into would be emails between Sedo and the mobi registry.

gou · 12-06-2007, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by -OutlawBiker-

I liked the Music.us idea, but why would you need the stinkin mobi? Why blow all that cash when you can just do mobi.Music.us or Mobile.Music.us? Sounds better to me anyway.

Yes, to you. People have different preferences, and you'll have to learn to show some respect and agree to disagree on aspects that are subjective. We don't need any more trash talk like stinkin' this or stinkin' that around here anymore from either side.

allnicksgone · 12-06-2007, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by -OutlawBiker-

Why blow all that cash when you can just do mobi.Music.us or Mobile.Music.us? Sounds better to me anyway.

This is not the place to start yet another anti-mobi versus pro-mobi argument. This thread deals with an auction that could have easily been for any extension.

I respect your views against .mobi, but suggest you start or find a different thread to voice them.

Broker · 12-06-2007, 06:50 PM

I'm just trying to figure out how people have $60,000 plus just laying around to buy domain names.

-OutlawBiker- · 12-06-2007, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

This is not the place to start yet another anti-mobi versus pro-mobi argument. This thread deals with an auction that could have easily been for any extension.

I respect your views against .mobi, but suggest you start or find a different thread to voice them.

Ah baloney. You can't tell me the chatter in this thread is limited to praising .mobi and NO questions? I own a couple dozen mobis myself. My point was relevant to the thread starter and his choice to throw such unusual high amounts of cash towards an unproven extension with a questionable future. I can see a few bucks like most of us have plugged in for some lottery tickets in the event the hype actually carries forward, but what is the sense in that kindof bet? Looks to me like a $600k bet in a poker game where the pot is a few $k tops. Heck, wouldn't even the most blind mobi fan understand that $600k towards promo and development would lend much more chance of success to his music site than just another name with no traffic to speak of, and the requirement of another large promo amount?

Mobi Cheap · 12-06-2007, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by -OutlawBiker-

...
Heck, wouldn't even the most blind mobi fan understand that $600k towards promo and development would lend much more chance of success to his music site than just another name with no traffic to speak of, and the requirement of another large promo amount?

Sorry I forget, what was it again you recommended the OP spends those $600k of branding dollars on?
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Was it mobi.Music.us, Mobile.Music.us m.Music.us, Wap.Music.us, Music.us/mobi, Music.us/mobi Music.us/m, Music.us/wap, mobi.Music.com, Mobile.Music.com m.Music.com, Music.com/mobile Music.com/m, Music.com/mobi, Wap.Music.com, or Music.com/wap?

"I guess one of them is bound to work, but I didn't write it down when I heard the ad so now I have to try all of them - no, in fact statistically it will work with only half that number of attempts, on average - so not that bad after all. And there is no competition, so I must find this url at all costs..."

namewaiter · 12-06-2007, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by -OutlawBiker-

Ah baloney. You can't tell me the chatter in this thread is limited to praising .mobi and NO questions? I own a couple dozen mobis myself. My point was relevant to the thread starter and his choice to throw such unusual high amounts of cash towards an unproven extension with a questionable future. I can see a few bucks like most of us have plugged in for some lottery tickets in the event the hype actually carries forward, but what is the sense in that kindof bet? Looks to me like a $600k bet in a poker game where the pot is a few $k tops. Heck, wouldn't even the most blind mobi fan understand that $600k towards promo and development would lend much more chance of success to his music site than just another name with no traffic to speak of, and the requirement of another large promo amount?

what??

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why is it's future so questionable? if anything it is more promising than any of the other newer extensions ever to be introduced - 1. because it has a purpose 2. because of it's backers 3. because of the corporations adopting it 4. because of the hype (good or bad it's here) 5. _____________

sashas · 12-06-2007, 07:40 PM

If I had 600k lying around, I would rather get Music.net. That way, I would at least get some type ins.

But then different people have different plans. The OP sounds like a great person who knows the music industry. It would've been better if he'd got the name. He certainly had the right plans for it.

You know, very frankly, even though I think that the sale of Music.mobi was rigged and way too high, I'll admit that Music.mobi looks damn good of a name.

**gemstar** · 12-06-2007, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by domi

Mr Roussos. I see you are a part of a very large organization.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=403779
Real Estate, Entertainment ect...
I see you are an intelligent person especially if you run all these projects. If you feel you have been wronged, your instinct will tell you what to do. It is unfortunate with what happened and it only details more on the misuse of the internet business.There must be a government controlled or government audited policy in place with the domain market or Human instinct and greed will contine to corrupt this business.I hope you find peace in the end with this mishap.

Well said.
I hope things work out

italiandragon · 12-06-2007, 07:47 PM

Here we go....you managed to get his thread into another .mobi debate

12-06-2007, 10:17 AM	#27 (permalink)
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accent Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,295	"Any publicity is good publicity" Mtld better hope that this is true here. While I assume Mtld was in contact during the post auction I conference, they are not the responsible party - Sedo is. Sedo set themselves up as an auction house (not very long ago, by the way), they wrote the TOS. This is their mess, not Mtld's. I feel for the OP. He sounds to have a great plan for Music.mobi and I hope he gets it. I imagine Mtld did not give him the name in RFP because they wanted Sony, Apple, Capital records - some top player. Mtld is guilty of over-reaching for that, but this badly messed up auction is all on Sedo. __________________ Domains for sale For List Of Country Code Domains Jewelry of Tibet and Nepal TibetanJewelry.mobi Tibetan Symbols Om Pyramids Ancient Egyptian Secrets Ancient Mystery Eden Shakti

12-06-2007, 12:32 PM	#31 (permalink)
domi NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 163	Mr Roussos. I see you are a part of a very large organization. Real Estate, Entertainment ect... I see you are an intelligent person especially if you run all these projects. If you feel you have been wronged, your instinct will tell you what to do. It is unfortunate with what happened and it only details more on the misuse of the internet business.There must be a government controlled or government audited policy in place with the domain market or Human instinct and greed will contine to corrupt this business.I hope you find peace in the end with this mishap.

12-06-2007, 04:08 PM	#34 (permalink)
DNWizardX9 Account Closed Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 742	so much for having the top names developed.... What happened the RFP process lol

12-06-2007, 06:00 PM	#41 (permalink)
-OutlawBiker- Name Cartels - Mr PINK Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dartmouth Posts: 527	I liked the Music.us idea, but why would you need the stinkin mobi? Why blow all that cash when you can just do mobi.Music.us or Mobile.Music.us? Sounds better to me anyway. Was wondering when people would catch on to the conflict in these auctions where there exists NO use of a chinese wall as in the stock market. I'd think one of the first things your attorney would look into would be emails between Sedo and the mobi registry.

12-06-2007, 06:50 PM	#44 (permalink)
Broker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 3,199	I'm just trying to figure out how people have $60,000 plus just laying around to buy domain names.

12-06-2007, 07:40 PM	#48 (permalink)
sashas Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jaipur, India Posts: 3,119	If I had 600k lying around, I would rather get Music.net. That way, I would at least get some type ins. But then different people have different plans. The OP sounds like a great person who knows the music industry. It would've been better if he'd got the name. He certainly had the right plans for it. You know, very frankly, even though I think that the sale of Music.mobi was rigged and way too high, I'll admit that Music.mobi looks damn good of a name.

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