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**Gene** · 10-20-2009, 07:53 AM

I just received this myself. I replied with:

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Hello Bradford,

Yes, this domain is selling for the bargain price of only $3,500,000.00.

Payment accepted in silver dollars only.

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TheRogue · 10-22-2009, 04:45 AM

damn it

i thought i'll become rich

) received the same email

Code:

Hello,

Our company is interested in your domain name. What is your price?

We have a solid investing budget and our company is very interested in
Internet names and web sites.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Bradford Whitman

CEO

Domain & Web Site Brokerage
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

domainplanet · 10-28-2009, 08:08 AM

thanks for this information. Today I received an email from them:

sullivan@domainsecondhand.com
Hello,
Our company is in online business for several years. We are investing in
domains and web sites. What is your price for the domain name?

We have a solid budget but we offer reasonable offers only. We will not
overpay. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Joseph Sullivan
President
Domain & Web Site Brokerage

**Gene** · 10-28-2009, 09:22 AM

So I decided to play with him to see how far he'd go. Here is the
whole back-and-forth email conversation:

(READ TOP TO BOTTOM)

-----------------------------------------------------

Hello,

Our company is interested in your domain name. What is your price?

We have a solid investing budget and our company is very interested in
Internet names and web sites.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Bradford Whitman

CEO

Domain & Web Site Brokerage

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My Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

Hello Bradford,

OracleProperties.com is selling for the bargain price of only $3,500,000.00.

Payment accepted in silver dollars only.

Gene

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His Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

Can you accept 3,400,000.00 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very
important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/9172614.htm <-- HIS SCAM SITE!

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price
accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

--------

Note #1: He wants to pay me $3,400,000! Wohoo! I can retire!

Note #2: The link in the above email message leads to a 'forum'
which is 100% PHONY. Put into place to make people think his
offer is legit.

-----------------------------------------------------
My Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

Hello Bradford,

Sorry, but I'm sticking to my guns. I want $3,500,000.00, not
$3,400,000.00. Just send the payment to my address in the
whois record. Remember, I accept Silver Dollars only. Once
I receive the payment, I'll transfer the domain to you
immediately. Please allow 3 days for me to count the coins.

Best,

Gene

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His Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

No proble,

It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to
buyers/resellers. Nobody will do business without it. I'm
a businessman and have no intention of changing rules
which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated
valuations. So manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:
(link to same scam site)

Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do
business with you.

-----------------------------------------------------
My Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

Dear Bradford,

Thank you so much for this opportunity. $3,500,000.00 will
surely come in handy. I need a new car. Oh, and I think I'll
splurge and buy me a new iPod too.

I love Silver dollars, don't you? They're SO shiny. I just
hope I'll be able to count them all without losing count
halfway through, that would be a bummer! By the way, do
you sell coin-counting machines? If you do, send one along
and just deduct the cost from the total.

I looked at the site you linked me to. Quite impressive! My
only problem is that I can't read. It's an unfortunate part
of my upbringing -- long story. I can write with no problem,
but I cannot read to save my life! I have to have everything
read to my by my assistant, but she is is currently in the
hospital having a hangnail removed. You know how painful
those can be.

Anyway, I'm anxious to do business! My address again is in
the whois info. I know $3,500,000.00 worth of silver dollars
is going to be a very heavy package, but I think there's
enough room in my garage. I've already cleared a space and
set up 12 banquet tables. I figure I'll have my friends come
over and help me count to speed the process. I don't mind
if they pocket a few for themselves. The BEST part is, since
the 12 banquet tables will already be set up, we can CELEBRATE
and have a big feast after we're done counting! I'd like to
invite you to celebrate with us... just give me a call!

Thanks again,

Gene

-----------------------------------------------------
He actually replied:
-----------------------------------------------------

As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first.
This is a reasonable practice. I've found not all the
appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual appraisals
from trusted sources only. I don't trust $14-$20 services.
Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual
service. I researched several companies and here are the results:

(here he lists four legitimate appraisal services but claims they are fraudulant)

Many experienced sellers suggested us http://www.(edited).com
as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per
hour. We've read only positive comments about them. And I
have my own positive experience with this company and their support.

Bradford

-----------------------------------------------------
My Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

Hello again Bradford,

Thanks for getting back to me, I've been waiting all day.
I'm very sad that after all our emails you haven't agreed
to my request for silver dollars. Let me know if you agree,
then I will have the domain appraised for you. I have to
cut this short because I haven't been to the bathroom all
day, waiting for you. I really have to go now.

Bye,

Gene

-----------------------------------------------------
His Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

No deal without appraisal from a trusted source. This simple
rule has saved me a lot of money and time. Feel free to
contact me when you change your position and let's do
business the right way.

-----------------------------------------------------
My Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

Hi again Bradford,

I must have typed my last message too fast for you to keep
up with, because I said I would get an appraisal. I'm typing
this message much slower so you don't miss anything this time.

A friend of mine let me know that 3.5 million silver dollars
would weigh over 103 tons, and recommended this method of
transportation: Antonov An-225 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Another option would be for me to fly to your location and
spend the silver dollars there. We could go shopping together!
Wouldn't that be fun? The first thing I'd do is buy you a
conscience. Let me know what you think.

Gene

-----------------------------------------------------
This is getting better by the minute. Seems my pal
'Bradford' is getting tired. He just replied again
with only four words:
-----------------------------------------------------

Show me the appraisal

-----------------------------------------------------
My Reply:
-----------------------------------------------------

Say 'please'.

Gene

-----------------------------------------------------
Well, well. Bradford seems to have had enough. His latest
email now contained only TWO words. I think you can guess
the words. It rhymes with Yuck Foo.
-----------------------------------------------------

My reply back to that was:

Sorry, that's not negotiable.

Gene

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sdsinc · 10-28-2009, 09:46 AM

Amazing

domainplanet · 10-28-2009, 10:05 AM

good play, Gene!

103 tons

wellmanneredsquirrel · 10-28-2009, 09:08 PM

They are now using this email address : sullivan@domainsecondhand.com
and this name : Joseph Sullivan
trying to push this phony appraisal service : Domain Services

I say somebody find a script that can send over 10,000 emails a day from a server located somewhere in asia and we flood their mailbox every single time they send their scam stuff to someone from np.

Vtec9k · 11-01-2009, 04:06 AM

Just registered to thanks for the heads up on this scammer, this thread comes up tops for his domain name.

Vikz · 11-05-2009, 01:39 AM

Just got a mail myself for a domain I can't give away if I tried - Defy.biz

Quote:

From: sullivan@domainsecondhand.com

Hello,

Our company is in online business for several years. We are investing in domains and web sites. What is your price for the domain name?

We have a solid budget but we offer reasonable offers only. We will not overpay. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Joseph Sullivan

President

Domain & Web Site Brokerage
================================================== ======
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.
================================================== ======

A quick search revealed this thread, so another heads up

StormNine · 11-05-2009, 07:19 PM

Got him.

Going to do a 'Gene' on him

on!SPOT · 11-06-2009, 01:12 AM

i got one today as well,
Gene post is hilarious!

I ll play with him also!

My first reply:

Quote:

Hello Mr. Joseph Sullivan.
I feel so happy receiving your email, i ought to thank you and your company for giving me this great chance to make money by selling my precious lucky domain.
This domain is for sale at $1, but since its co-owned by my big Greek family you must send your reply with offer to the following 3 emails as well:

- my brothers email: bro@xxxxxx.gr
- my moms email: mama@xxxxxx.gr
- my dads email: dad@xxxxxx.gr
and of course my grandmas email: grandma@xxxxxx.gr

After that we can talk more about sending payment.

Anxiously waiting for your reply and truly yours,
Makis.

Blitzpotz · 11-06-2009, 01:38 AM

Attention, they are active again.

They are now using this email address : whitman@domainsecondhand.com
and this name : Bradford Whitman

adda4u · 11-06-2009, 09:56 AM

Received same mail almost trapped and finally realized it was scam by seeing the reference site and email.

Fcuk off Joseph

nicedomains · 11-06-2009, 10:47 AM

Got an email the other day from Joe Sullivan. By the way the email was written I could tell it was an obvious appraisal scam.. I'll admit setting up a blog at domainsecondhand.com is a little clever and could trick some.

Gene - LMAO!

lighting_blue · 11-07-2009, 09:04 AM

Nice to see Gene post, since I got one today, and I try to research first.

nndadameah · 11-11-2009, 02:28 AM

I've also received this type of email just this morning.

I was quite surprised when the offer price by the email is SO MUCH HIGHER than the original offer price that I quoted to them.

Now the email is from George Hamilton (hamilton@domainsecondhand.com). Same email contents as above.

-NC- · 11-11-2009, 03:37 AM

Don't think this has been mentioned yet in this thread, so just for the sake of anyone reading who doesn't already know:

This scam is in no way limited to domainsecondhand.com. Basically, ANY email you get that asks YOU to pay for an appraisal is a scam. Tell them to buy their own appraisal.

jon2nd · 11-23-2009, 01:37 PM

Hi Guys
Had an email along the same lines today just with a different email address.
Don't think i'm going to reply.
I may or may not have changed the end of his email,i can only hope that he doesn't try to sue me for Defamation of character.

regards jon

Hello,

Our company invests in Internet projects and domain names. What is your
price for the domain name?

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Jeffrey Burnstein

CEO

Second Hand Domain & Web Site Investing & Reselling
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NOTICE - This communication may contain bull*** and privileged
information that is for the sole use of ripping you off. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately so i can add you
to my list of people to scam at a later date.
================================================== ======

ran_doank · 11-24-2009, 01:01 PM

What this??

A few minutes ago,i look at awstats, & i see traffic coming From
domainsecondhand.com

When I go there.. Its Showing My Site!! My site is dndboard.com, i look at the source, and They Iframing my site!!

--
Update:
i Inject some JS Code to prevent iframe, But thats not solve the problem, Can Some one give me suggestion plz?

bladel · 11-30-2009, 12:49 AM

Just received today, Pretty active little bugger, but I wanted to share to add to the list of aliases.

Hello,

Our company invests in Internet projects and domain names. What is your
price for the domain name?

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Scott Withrow
CEO
Domain Investing & Reselling

Later offered $5k with the standard requirement of appraisal.

I countered that he was welcome to submit a binding offer at Sedo.com, and that any appraisal was part of his due diligence, and not something I (as the seller) would do or pay for.

iaintaylor · 12-02-2009, 04:26 AM

Hi All,

He is on a roll with the above email and name "Scott Withrow". Great commentary from all on this scam. Just received the same email as above.

I was suspicious by the lack of a legit contact details in his signature, and there not be a legit site to back this up. Always good to have a conversation with the person. This will filter legit offers.

My reply: "Thanks for your email. Domain name is not for sale, I am actually developing it myself."

I'll keep you all posted on any subsequent reply.

Cheers
Iain

lsl4 · 12-04-2009, 12:40 PM

withrow@domainsecondhand.com

Hello,

Our company invests in Internet projects and domain names. What is your
price for the domain name?

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Scott Withrow

CEO

The first tip off for me was the fact that domainsecondhand.com is just a parked page deal. Then I did a internet search and arrived here.

Mumbleboy · 12-05-2009, 01:25 AM

Wow-ee,

I got exactly the same emails, word for word from this Domainsecondhand. The person gave the name Scott Withrow.

He said they were looking for domains. Offered $5000 for 7 names but wanted them appraised at the place he suggested. "ResearchAppraisals" (He didn't trust anyone else). That's what put the red flag up for me because he said he didn't trust Sedo, and he didn't trust GoDaddy. He kept referring me to "ResearchAppraisals" to get the appraisals. I would suggest another and he always came back to "ResearchAppraisals" to do it. It just smelled fishy that he didn't trust Sedo or GoDaddy.

Sedo has one of the most extensive appraisals around and he still insisted that I go to the place he suggested.

Glad I found this posting, it would have run over $300 to get 7 names done.

7apj · 12-07-2009, 07:05 AM

Hey everybody. I'm not much of a detective, but yesterday I did a search for "sell domains" and chose a place called ImpressiveDomains.com. I only signed up with them and listed the name that I was contacted about. May be just a coincidence but if anybody else listed there, it may be a red flag.

noy.com · 12-07-2009, 07:30 AM

Got an email from DomainSecondhand.com as well.

I immediately knew it was scam, when they proposed a specific appraisal "company" and gave me a link to a "forum" which is not a forum in reality. Just a fake one-pager.

Then I did IP check on the email and it turned out to be from Russia. Then I used Google Translate to write him in Russian and ask how is the weather in Russia nowadays? ) Did not hear from him ever since.

10-20-2009, 07:53 AM	#26 (permalink)
Gene DomainersUniversity.com Team Leader Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oswego, NY Posts: 4,723 1,546.11 NP$ (Donate)	I just received this myself. I replied with: --------------------------------------- Hello Bradford, Yes, this domain is selling for the bargain price of only $3,500,000.00. Payment accepted in silver dollars only. -------------------------------------- . __________________ . . Hyannis Bed And Breakfast \| Chester Lawyer \| Wholesale Designer Handbags \| Blog Solution \| LeadKey.com \| KeyCruise.com \| MyFreeOnlineCreditReport.com \| PostcardMaster.com \| SuccessJet.com \| SweetMillions.com \| TopRatedBooks.com \| RoomWithView.com

10-28-2009, 09:22 AM	#29 (permalink)
Gene DomainersUniversity.com Team Leader Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oswego, NY Posts: 4,723 1,546.11 NP$ (Donate)	So I decided to play with him to see how far he'd go. Here is the whole back-and-forth email conversation: (READ TOP TO BOTTOM) ----------------------------------------------------- Hello, Our company is interested in your domain name. What is your price? We have a solid investing budget and our company is very interested in Internet names and web sites. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Bradford Whitman CEO Domain & Web Site Brokerage ----------------------------------------------------- My Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- Hello Bradford, OracleProperties.com is selling for the bargain price of only $3,500,000.00. Payment accepted in silver dollars only. Gene ----------------------------------------------------- His Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- Can you accept 3,400,000.00 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: webdiscuss.007sites.com/Archive-07-2009/9172614.htm <-- HIS SCAM SITE! If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. -------- Note #1: He wants to pay me $3,400,000! Wohoo! I can retire! Note #2: The link in the above email message leads to a 'forum' which is 100% PHONY. Put into place to make people think his offer is legit. ----------------------------------------------------- My Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- Hello Bradford, Sorry, but I'm sticking to my guns. I want $3,500,000.00, not $3,400,000.00. Just send the payment to my address in the whois record. Remember, I accept Silver Dollars only. Once I receive the payment, I'll transfer the domain to you immediately. Please allow 3 days for me to count the coins. Best, Gene ----------------------------------------------------- His Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- No proble, It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers. Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks. Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So manual valuation is a "must" too. I read the following information about appraisals at: (link to same scam site) Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you. ----------------------------------------------------- My Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- Dear Bradford, Thank you so much for this opportunity. $3,500,000.00 will surely come in handy. I need a new car. Oh, and I think I'll splurge and buy me a new iPod too. I love Silver dollars, don't you? They're SO shiny. I just hope I'll be able to count them all without losing count halfway through, that would be a bummer! By the way, do you sell coin-counting machines? If you do, send one along and just deduct the cost from the total. I looked at the site you linked me to. Quite impressive! My only problem is that I can't read. It's an unfortunate part of my upbringing -- long story. I can write with no problem, but I cannot read to save my life! I have to have everything read to my by my assistant, but she is is currently in the hospital having a hangnail removed. You know how painful those can be. Anyway, I'm anxious to do business! My address again is in the whois info. I know $3,500,000.00 worth of silver dollars is going to be a very heavy package, but I think there's enough room in my garage. I've already cleared a space and set up 12 banquet tables. I figure I'll have my friends come over and help me count to speed the process. I don't mind if they pocket a few for themselves. The BEST part is, since the 12 banquet tables will already be set up, we can CELEBRATE and have a big feast after we're done counting! I'd like to invite you to celebrate with us... just give me a call! Thanks again, Gene ----------------------------------------------------- He actually replied: ----------------------------------------------------- As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first. This is a reasonable practice. I've found not all the appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual appraisals from trusted sources only. I don't trust $14-$20 services. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service. I researched several companies and here are the results: (here he lists four legitimate appraisal services but claims they are fraudulant) Many experienced sellers suggested us http://www.(edited).com as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. We've read only positive comments about them. And I have my own positive experience with this company and their support. Bradford ----------------------------------------------------- My Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- Hello again Bradford, Thanks for getting back to me, I've been waiting all day. I'm very sad that after all our emails you haven't agreed to my request for silver dollars. Let me know if you agree, then I will have the domain appraised for you. I have to cut this short because I haven't been to the bathroom all day, waiting for you. I really have to go now. Bye, Gene ----------------------------------------------------- His Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- No deal without appraisal from a trusted source. This simple rule has saved me a lot of money and time. Feel free to contact me when you change your position and let's do business the right way. ----------------------------------------------------- My Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- Hi again Bradford, I must have typed my last message too fast for you to keep up with, because I said I would get an appraisal. I'm typing this message much slower so you don't miss anything this time. A friend of mine let me know that 3.5 million silver dollars would weigh over 103 tons, and recommended this method of transportation: Antonov An-225 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Another option would be for me to fly to your location and spend the silver dollars there. We could go shopping together! Wouldn't that be fun? The first thing I'd do is buy you a conscience. Let me know what you think. Gene ----------------------------------------------------- This is getting better by the minute. Seems my pal 'Bradford' is getting tired. He just replied again with only four words: ----------------------------------------------------- Show me the appraisal ----------------------------------------------------- My Reply: ----------------------------------------------------- Say 'please'. Gene ----------------------------------------------------- Well, well. Bradford seems to have had enough. His latest email now contained only TWO words. I think you can guess the words. It rhymes with Yuck Foo. ----------------------------------------------------- My reply back to that was: Sorry, that's not negotiable. Gene . __________________ . . Hyannis Bed And Breakfast \| Chester Lawyer \| Wholesale Designer Handbags \| Blog Solution \| LeadKey.com \| KeyCruise.com \| MyFreeOnlineCreditReport.com \| PostcardMaster.com \| SuccessJet.com \| SweetMillions.com \| TopRatedBooks.com \| RoomWithView.com

10-28-2009, 09:46 AM	#30 (permalink)
sdsinc Domains my Dominion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Web 1.0 Posts: 7,062 932.94 NP$ (Donate)	Amazing __________________ Domain name newsletter coming soon

10-28-2009, 09:08 PM	#32 (permalink)
wellmanneredsquirrel NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 45 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Now using They are now using this email address : sullivan@domainsecondhand.com and this name : Joseph Sullivan trying to push this phony appraisal service : Domain Services I say somebody find a script that can send over 10,000 emails a day from a server located somewhere in asia and we flood their mailbox every single time they send their scam stuff to someone from np.

11-05-2009, 07:19 PM	#35 (permalink)
StormNine NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: England Posts: 640 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Got him. Going to do a 'Gene' on him __________________ For Sale: Skwert.com RoleplaySite.com VIODISTG.com Thermogenic.info Guggul.info Guggul.org MmogHub.com MmogHub.net MmogHub.org CelebrityObsessed.com

10-28-2009, 08:08 AM	#28 (permalink)
domainplanet NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 90 63.95 NP$ (Donate)	thanks for this information. Today I received an email from them: sullivan@domainsecondhand.com Hello, Our company is in online business for several years. We are investing in domains and web sites. What is your price for the domain name? We have a solid budget but we offer reasonable offers only. We will not overpay. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Joseph Sullivan President Domain & Web Site Brokerage

10-28-2009, 10:05 AM	#31 (permalink)
domainplanet NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 90 63.95 NP$ (Donate)	good play, Gene! 103 tons

11-01-2009, 04:06 AM	#33 (permalink)
Vtec9k First Time Poster! Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Just registered to thanks for the heads up on this scammer, this thread comes up tops for his domain name.

11-06-2009, 01:38 AM	#37 (permalink)
Blitzpotz NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Bavaria Posts: 314 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Attention, they are active again. They are now using this email address : whitman@domainsecondhand.com and this name : Bradford Whitman __________________ Schlagzeilen.mobi for news in German, easy to translate - Service.mobi find services in the USA - Surfista.mobi surfing info for Spain - Sucht.mobi search mobile - Polizei.mobi emergency?

11-06-2009, 09:56 AM	#38 (permalink)
adda4u I Miss You Join Date: May 2008 Location: India Posts: 1,386 446.35 NP$ (Donate)	Received same mail almost trapped and finally realized it was scam by seeing the reference site and email. Fcuk off Joseph __________________ Free directory\| Lazywebmaster

11-06-2009, 10:47 AM	#39 (permalink)
nicedomains Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,220 58.00 NP$ (Donate)	Got an email the other day from Joe Sullivan. By the way the email was written I could tell it was an obvious appraisal scam.. I'll admit setting up a blog at domainsecondhand.com is a little clever and could trick some. Gene - LMAO! __________________ NameTalent.com \| AboutMike.com

11-07-2009, 09:04 AM	#40 (permalink)
lighting_blue Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,716 2,869.66 NP$ (Donate)	Nice to see Gene post, since I got one today, and I try to research first. __________________ (\__/) [WTB] Space Banner 150 x 75 min. PR4 (='.'=) (")_(") Looking for Your Unused Domain HOT !!! .. ¦ ¦ Get Amazon and ASOS gift vouchers for free

11-11-2009, 02:28 AM	#41 (permalink)
nndadameah New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I've also received this type of email just this morning. I was quite surprised when the offer price by the email is SO MUCH HIGHER than the original offer price that I quoted to them. Now the email is from George Hamilton (hamilton@domainsecondhand.com). Same email contents as above.

11-11-2009, 03:37 AM	#42 (permalink)
-NC- Traveller Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Yet another city Posts: 1,415 614.57 NP$ (Donate)	Don't think this has been mentioned yet in this thread, so just for the sake of anyone reading who doesn't already know: This scam is in no way limited to domainsecondhand.com. Basically, ANY email you get that asks YOU to pay for an appraisal is a scam. Tell them to buy their own appraisal. __________________ NameCooler.com Domain Monetization Funny Pictures

11-23-2009, 01:37 PM	#43 (permalink)
jon2nd First Time Poster! Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Hi Guys Had an email along the same lines today just with a different email address. Don't think i'm going to reply. I may or may not have changed the end of his email,i can only hope that he doesn't try to sue me for Defamation of character. regards jon Hello, Our company invests in Internet projects and domain names. What is your price for the domain name? If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Jeffrey Burnstein CEO Second Hand Domain & Web Site Investing & Reselling ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain bull* and privileged information that is for the sole use of ripping you off**. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so i can add you to my list of people to scam at a later date. ================================================== ======

11-24-2009, 01:01 PM	#44 (permalink)
ran_doank NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 236 1,097.10 NP$ (Donate)	help What this?? A few minutes ago,i look at awstats, & i see traffic coming From domainsecondhand.com When I go there.. Its Showing My Site!! My site is dndboard.com, i look at the source, and They Iframing my site!! -- Update: i Inject some JS Code to prevent iframe, But thats not solve the problem, Can Some one give me suggestion plz? __________________ DNDBoard.com Has been Framed By Scammer Reda Zerrad [r.zerrad@gmail.com] Where Are you? Last edited by ran_doank; 11-24-2009 at 01:17 PM.

11-30-2009, 12:49 AM	#45 (permalink)
bladel New Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Just got him today Just received today, Pretty active little bugger, but I wanted to share to add to the list of aliases. Hello, Our company invests in Internet projects and domain names. What is your price for the domain name? If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Scott Withrow CEO Domain Investing & Reselling Later offered $5k with the standard requirement of appraisal. I countered that he was welcome to submit a binding offer at Sedo.com, and that any appraisal was part of his due diligence, and not something I (as the seller) would do or pay for.

12-02-2009, 04:26 AM	#46 (permalink)
iaintaylor New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 18 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Hi All, He is on a roll with the above email and name "Scott Withrow". Great commentary from all on this scam. Just received the same email as above. I was suspicious by the lack of a legit contact details in his signature, and there not be a legit site to back this up. Always good to have a conversation with the person. This will filter legit offers. My reply: "Thanks for your email. Domain name is not for sale, I am actually developing it myself." I'll keep you all posted on any subsequent reply. Cheers Iain

12-04-2009, 12:40 PM	#47 (permalink)
lsl4 First Time Poster! Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I Got This One Today withrow@domainsecondhand.com Hello, Our company invests in Internet projects and domain names. What is your price for the domain name? If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Scott Withrow CEO The first tip off for me was the fact that domainsecondhand.com is just a parked page deal. Then I did a internet search and arrived here.

12-05-2009, 01:25 AM	#48 (permalink)
Mumbleboy First Time Poster! Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Same exact Emails. Word for word. Wow-ee, I got exactly the same emails, word for word from this Domainsecondhand. The person gave the name Scott Withrow. He said they were looking for domains. Offered $5000 for 7 names but wanted them appraised at the place he suggested. "ResearchAppraisals" (He didn't trust anyone else). That's what put the red flag up for me because he said he didn't trust Sedo, and he didn't trust GoDaddy. He kept referring me to "ResearchAppraisals" to get the appraisals. I would suggest another and he always came back to "ResearchAppraisals" to do it. It just smelled fishy that he didn't trust Sedo or GoDaddy. Sedo has one of the most extensive appraisals around and he still insisted that I go to the place he suggested. Glad I found this posting, it would have run over $300 to get 7 names done.

12-07-2009, 07:05 AM	#49 (permalink)
7apj First Time Poster! Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Domainsecondhand.com. Where are they getting our info? Hey everybody. I'm not much of a detective, but yesterday I did a search for "sell domains" and chose a place called ImpressiveDomains.com. I only signed up with them and listed the name that I was contacted about. May be just a coincidence but if anybody else listed there, it may be a red flag.

12-07-2009, 07:30 AM	#50 (permalink)
noy.com NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 182 11.70 NP$ (Donate)	Got an email from DomainSecondhand.com as well. I immediately knew it was scam, when they proposed a specific appraisal "company" and gave me a link to a "forum" which is not a forum in reality. Just a fake one-pager. Then I did IP check on the email and it turned out to be from Russia. Then I used Google Translate to write him in Russian and ask how is the weather in Russia nowadays? ) Did not hear from him ever since.

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