w-o-r-d-s.com thread, who has them/buying them and why... - Page 4

hugegrowth · 01-16-2008, 12:04 AM

I have some domains like this but I prefer short words, 3 or 4 letters max, but longer words are ok too if they're good keywords for their market/industry.

You have to be open minded about domains, and there is something to the fact that if these types of names have been bought up for a while, maybe there is a reason. Certainly there's already evidence of sales with dashed domains.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/396821-w-o-r-d-s-com.html
Someone pointed out in another thread that Moniker's adult name auction going on now has many non .com extentions. I think this shows that the inventory of quality, pure word and phrase .com's is finite, and with more auctions and aftermarket sales happening, we'll see more alternatives start selling, like non .com extensions, domains with dashes, etc - IMO

ownthisdomainnow · 01-30-2008, 04:06 PM

Starting M-o-b-i-l-e.com at $25. Check it out http://www.namepros.com/domains-for-...o-b-i-l-e.html

Pred · 01-30-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by hugegrowth

I have some domains like this but I prefer short words, 3 or 4 letters max, but longer words are ok too if they're good keywords for their market/industry.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

You have to be open minded about domains, and there is something to the fact that if these types of names have been bought up for a while, maybe there is a reason. Certainly there's already evidence of sales with dashed domains.

Someone pointed out in another thread that Moniker's adult name auction

going on now has many non .com extentions. I think this shows that the inventory of quality, pure word and phrase .com's is finite, and with more auctions and aftermarket sales happening, we'll see more alternatives start selling, like non .com extensions, domains with dashes, etc - IMO

ever wondered where www.T-R-A-F-F-I-C.com goes?

buckshotdots · 02-09-2008, 10:04 AM

I missed the ending of m-o-b-i-l-e . com sold for $30 (good buy IMO)

1 info dropped today and as of this post still available-

j-o-b-s.info (all major extensions taken)

I said I would post my first months parked results for s-l-o-t (2x 2 week pay period) for January-

s-l-o-t ... com 44 45 $596.14 102.27% $0.58 $26.23
s-l-o-t ... com 27 31 $470.00 114.81% $0.41 $12.69

Almost $40 for 1 month, so do w-o-r-d-s have value? I guess you decide. Almost every word is gone and they DO make money.

thoughts?

thanks, gary.

DNBro · 02-09-2008, 10:50 AM

I was the winner for M-O-B-I-L-E.COM, ohh, its simply best.

Listing few of my other hyphen domains
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

C-D-M-A.COM
B-PO.COM
KP-O.COM
LP-O.COM
LV-F.COM
LV-N.COM
LV-V.COM
LV-R.COM
LV-D.COM
N-N-N-N.COM
F-M-C-G.COM
Y-U-G-O.COM
S-H-E-L-L.COM
AU-R.COM
C-C-N-A.COM
C-I-G-A-R-E-T-T-E.COM
D-UI.COM
G-I-Z-M-O-S.COM
LE-Z.COM
P-E-R-F-U-M-E-S.COM
P-L-O-T.COM
RL-Y.COM
T-AJ.COM
TY-RE.COM

0-1-0.NET
F-L-O-W-E-R.NET
B-P-O.NET

C-A-M-E-R-A.INFO
F-L-O-W-E-R.INFO
R-E-A-L-E-S-T-A-T-E.INFO
W-I-N-E-S.INFO
B-E-A-U-T-Y.INFO
C-H-I-N-A.INFO
F-I-N-A-N-C-E.INFO
F-O-O-D.INFO
I-N-S-U-R-A-N-C-E.INFO
K-O-R-E-A.INFO
T-O-Y-S.INFO

0-1-0.NET is currently on NP auction.

Keynes · 02-09-2008, 12:41 PM

Everyone should know that these can only be SEOed if the terms between hyphens run naturally. That means, for example, G-A-M-E-S.com can only SEO for the search "G A M E S" (and nobody searches for this) and not for anything related to "Games". Just FYI.

4LTR.org · 02-09-2008, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Keynes

Everyone should know that these can only be SEOed if the terms between hyphens run naturally. That means, for example, G-A-M-E-S.com can only SEO for the search "G A M E S" (and nobody searches for this) and not for anything related to "Games". Just FYI.

If this were always true...that would be great!!! I'd rather my website stick out like a sore thumb when someone types it in than getting over 2 billion other sites. Further, I think that this sales fact would attract endusers. You can have a great, memorable name like M-O-B-I-L-E for a half million less than mobile.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

GOOGLE RESULTS
g-a-m-e-s 2,900,000,000
games 2,900,000,000

YAHOO RESULTS
g-a-m-e-s 49,700
games 3,760,000,000

With most people following hyperlinks or using the bookmark feature to remember important sites, saving a half million dollars on a name like m-o-b-i-l-e.com seems like a good deal. In fact, more and more I see this dashed alternative ending up in the hands of endusers. People are even turning the dashes into positives by branding their L-L-L-L names to look like acronyms as in l-a-m-b.com, a popular clothing site. If l-a-m-b wanted their site to come up in lamb search results on Yahoo, they could just use lamb as a keyword and throughout their website. However, since they sell upscale clothing and merchandise, they probably don't want to be associated with a million pages about farm animals.

Personally, I think too much emphasis is placed on keyword domains. With over a billion games sites, the only thing that really matters is good content and sites linking to yours, not that your domain name is number1games.com and your competitor has number2games.com.

In fact, I think that most companies would rather have short, pronounceable, made up words that can also be tradeamarked in order to set themselves away from the crowd...like Yahoo, Google, MSN, AOL, Kajiji, Youtube, Friendster, etc.. At least when their domain is typed into the seach engines, your pretty much guaranteed to get info on their site, not a million similar sites.

However on the plus side of keyword domains, if you spend enough you not only get an easy to type in and remember domain but, you get a good income from direct type in parking revenue.

Keynes · 02-09-2008, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

I'd rather my website stick out like a sore thumb when someone types it in than getting over 2 billion other sites. Further, I think that this sales fact would attract endusers. You can have a great, memorable name like M-O-B-I-L-E for a half million less than mobile.

The issue here is that nobody is searching for "M O B I L E".

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

GOOGLE RESULTS
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821
g-a-m-e-s 2,900,000,000
games 2,900,000,000

YAHOO RESULTS
g-a-m-e-s 49,700
games 3,760,000,000

Another set of meaningless, out of content data that has no relevancy in terms of what people will see in their search returns. These names are SEO-worthless.

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

Personally, I think too much emphasis is placed on keyword domains. With over a billion games sites, the only thing that really matters is good content and sites linking to yours, not that your domain name is number1games.com and your competitor has number2games.com.

Okay, according to this logic domains don't enter into the equation - market and SEO data suggest otherwise.

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

In fact, I think that most companies would rather have short, pronounceable, made up words that can also be tradeamarked in order to set themselves away from the crowd...like Yahoo, Google, MSN, AOL, Kajiji, Youtube, Friendster, etc.. At least when their domain is typed into the seach engines, your pretty much guaranteed to get info on their site, not a million similar sites.

This argument supports the prevalence of LLL - LLLLL.com brandable names and actually argues against the confusing nature of these hyphenated names.

Anyone investing in these names would benefit from some patience and hard-work in acquiring and developing quality names, rather than seeking shortcuts to success which always end the same way...

4LTR.org · 02-09-2008, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Keynes

The issue here is that nobody is searching for "M O B I L E".

Yes, but who searches for a m-o-b-i-l-e anyway. The people searching for mobile phones will arrive at m-o-b-i-l-e.com if mobile "mobile phones" is one of the websites keywords and / or repeated in their wesite in the text.

Originally Posted by Keynes

Another set of meaningless, out of content data that has no relevancy in terms of what people will see in their search returns. These names are SEO-worthless.

I only mentioned the name "games" because your the one who felt it was important enough to make the comparison on.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

Originally Posted by Keynes

Okay, according to this logic domains don't enter into the equation - market and SEO data suggest otherwise.

Of course all domains matter. I just wouldn't say that G-O, C-A-R, S-h-o-p, m-o-b-i-le are worthless as you seem to infer.

Keynes · 02-09-2008, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

Yes, but who searches for a m-o-b-i-l-e anyway. The people searching for mobile phones will arrive at m-o-b-i-l-e.com if mobile "mobile phones" is one of the websites keywords and / or repeated in their wesite in the text.

The point of owning a quality domain is that it is stronger SEO and market-wise - domains matter for SEO, and these names are highly irrelevant to a given set of keywords. While you can add any given meta tags and content to any given site, the point of quality domains is that they enhance your targeting potential in the eyes of search algorithms and consumers.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

Of course all domains matter. I just wouldn't say that G-O, C-A-R, S-h-o-p, m-o-b-i-le are worthless as you seem to infer.

I never claimed all hyphenated names are worthless, but hyphens should serve as natural breaks, not as some sort of "hyphen-hack" to create meaningless domains that look cute.

4LTR.org · 02-09-2008, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Keynes

The point of owning a quality domain is that it is stronger SEO and market-wise - domains matter for SEO, and these names are highly irrelevant to a given set of keywords. While you can add any given meta tags and content to any given site, the point of quality domains is that they enhance your targeting potential in the eyes of search algorithms and consumers.

I agree, I'd much rather have a great domain name like wine.com which sold for a couple of million than w-i-n-e.com for $25. However, I can't afford it.

I don't even have w-i-n-e.com or b-e-e-r.com. I do have d-e-e-d.com though and it pays for itself in parking income.

Keynes · 02-09-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

I agree, I'd much rather have a great domain name like wine.com which sold for a couple of million than w-i-n-e.com for $25. However, I can't afford it.

I don't even have w-i-n-e.com or b-e-e-r.com. I do have d-e-e-d.com though and it pays for itself in parking income.

I'm not suggesting everyone has to have 1-word generics, but, rather, that 2-word descriptive generics are still a strong category to acquire into.

duceman · 02-09-2008, 03:37 PM

M-A-C-A-U.com

Great RPC

Keynes · 02-09-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by duceman

M-A-C-A-U.com

Great RPC

Because the keyword is set to "Macau" - these are not direct-nav names, and don't bode well for development.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

Invest as you wish but caveat emptor.

duceman · 02-09-2008, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Keynes

Because the keyword is set to "Macau" - these are not direct-nav names, and don't bode well for development.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

Invest as you wish but caveat emptor.

The domain has already paid for itself plus 2 years renewal fee's.

If I could find 1000 more just like it I'd buy'em.

4LTR.org · 02-09-2008, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by duceman

The domain has already paid for itself plus 2 years renewal fee's.

If I could find 1000 more just like it I'd buy'em.

Edit: Is that because it's getting expired traffic???

I'ts ranked #1 on Yahoo out of 73,800 which is fantastic for a parked page, however, Yahoo also has this description...

Free web unblocker that can let you access free websites blocked from your ... M-a-c-a-u.com. ... of every IP address (which we dont share) M-a-c-a-u.com! Yet, your parked pages is about vacations.

My d-e-e-d does very well however, my keword is deed. I'm sure that m-a-c-a-u could pay for itself, however, if it's expired traffic, your clicks may decrease over time.

DNBro · 02-12-2008, 05:05 AM

Today, i brought S-h-a-r-e-s.com,

What you guys think about this domain.

Where you all are parking your hypen domains, which one is the best for hypen domains.

buckshotdots · 03-02-2008, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by DNBro

Today, i brought S-h-a-r-e-s.com,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

What you guys think about this domain.

Where you all are parking your hypen domains, which one is the best for hypen domains.

I love parked.com

Dropped:

r-a-f-f-l-e.com
w-i-n-n-e-r.com
m-e-t.net (thought I would post here as well, posted also in the L-L-L.net thread)

good luck, gary.

rcep · 03-02-2008, 05:52 AM

i think such domains are a wast of time

onewordonly · 03-02-2008, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by 4ltrorg

People are even turning the dashes into positives by branding their L-L-L-L names to look like acronyms as in l-a-m-b.com, a popular clothing site. If l-a-m-b wanted their site to come up in lamb search results on Yahoo, they could just use lamb as a keyword and throughout their website. However, since they sell upscale clothing and merchandise, they probably don't want to be associated with a million pages about farm animals.

Fashion is one area names like this can work well, that is why I own f-a-s-h-i-o-n-a-b-l-e.com & is the only name I own like this. Another industry/sector is younger people, skaters, trend setters, design etc where something unorthodox is cool.

GF · 03-02-2008, 08:27 PM

I'm getting traffic daily on b-a-r-a-c-k .com!

buckshotdots · 03-02-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by rcep

i think such domains are a wast of time

Thanks for adding something useful to the discussion....
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

Did you see how much my s-l-o-t made (above)?

If almost all w-o-r-d-s are regged, there must be a reason. Can people start posting their own traffic stats for these domains?

Heres the ones I have making rev last month:

a-t-t-o-r-n-e-y 35 5 $67.71 14.29% $0.47 $2.37
n-y-p-d 7 1 $121.43 14.29% $0.85 $0.85
a-r-c-h-i-t-e-c-t 19 8 $33.68 42.11% $0.08 $0.64
w-o-m-a-n 7 3 $44.29 42.86% $0.10 $0.31
a-c-u-p-u-n-c-t-u-r-e 6 2 $46.67 33.33% $0.14 $0.28
p-u-r-c-h-a-s-i-n-g 11 2 $19.09 18.18% $0.11 $0.21
c-e-l-e-b-r-i-t-y 15 4 $11.33 26.67% $0.04 $0.17

thanks, g-

.jd. · 03-02-2008, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by buckshotdots

Thanks for adding something useful to the discussion....
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821

Did you see how much my s-l-o-t made (above)?

If almost all w-o-r-d-s are regged, there must be a reason. Can people start posting their own traffic stats for these domains?

Heres the ones I have making rev last month:

a-t-t-o-r-n-e-y 35 5 $67.71 14.29% $0.47 $2.37
n-y-p-d 7 1 $121.43 14.29% $0.85 $0.85
a-r-c-h-i-t-e-c-t 19 8 $33.68 42.11% $0.08 $0.64
w-o-m-a-n 7 3 $44.29 42.86% $0.10 $0.31
a-c-u-p-u-n-c-t-u-r-e 6 2 $46.67 33.33% $0.14 $0.28
p-u-r-c-h-a-s-i-n-g 11 2 $19.09 18.18% $0.11 $0.21
c-e-l-e-b-r-i-t-y 15 4 $11.33 26.67% $0.04 $0.17

thanks, g-

You have got some killer names right there..

Travis · 03-03-2008, 07:39 AM

j-a-r.net
j-a-w.net
l-u-g.net
m-o-o.net
n-a-b.net
p-e-a.net
p-r-y.net
p-u-n.net
w-e-t.net
z-i-n.net

buckshotdots · 03-04-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by .jd.

You have got some killer names right there..

thanks, been slowly buying. I just wish other people would post stats

g-

01-16-2008, 12:04 AM	#76 (permalink)
hugegrowth NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 364 Follow @domains	I have some domains like this but I prefer short words, 3 or 4 letters max, but longer words are ok too if they're good keywords for their market/industry. You have to be open minded about domains, and there is something to the fact that if these types of names have been bought up for a while, maybe there is a reason. Certainly there's already evidence of sales with dashed domains. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/396821-w-o-r-d-s-com.html Someone pointed out in another thread that Moniker's adult name auction going on now has many non .com extentions. I think this shows that the inventory of quality, pure word and phrase .com's is finite, and with more auctions and aftermarket sales happening, we'll see more alternatives start selling, like non .com extensions, domains with dashes, etc - IMO __________________ Submit your website now - Free! go to... http://www.MyAffinity.com

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buckshotdots Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,705	I missed the ending of m-o-b-i-l-e . com sold for $30 (good buy IMO) 1 info dropped today and as of this post still available- j-o-b-s.info (all major extensions taken) I said I would post my first months parked results for s-l-o-t (2x 2 week pay period) for January- s-l-o-t ... com 44 45 $596.14 102.27% $0.58 $26.23 s-l-o-t ... com 27 31 $470.00 114.81% $0.41 $12.69 Almost $40 for 1 month, so do w-o-r-d-s have value? I guess you decide. Almost every word is gone and they DO make money. thoughts? thanks, gary. Last edited by buckshotdots; 02-09-2008 at 11:17 AM.

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DNBro ValidDomains.com Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,505 Follow @TopSelling	I was the winner for M-O-B-I-L-E.COM, ohh, its simply best. Listing few of my other hyphen domains ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=396821 C-D-M-A.COM B-PO.COM KP-O.COM LP-O.COM LV-F.COM LV-N.COM LV-V.COM LV-R.COM LV-D.COM N-N-N-N.COM F-M-C-G.COM Y-U-G-O.COM S-H-E-L-L.COM AU-R.COM C-C-N-A.COM C-I-G-A-R-E-T-T-E.COM D-UI.COM G-I-Z-M-O-S.COM LE-Z.COM P-E-R-F-U-M-E-S.COM P-L-O-T.COM RL-Y.COM T-AJ.COM TY-RE.COM 0-1-0.NET F-L-O-W-E-R.NET B-P-O.NET C-A-M-E-R-A.INFO F-L-O-W-E-R.INFO R-E-A-L-E-S-T-A-T-E.INFO W-I-N-E-S.INFO B-E-A-U-T-Y.INFO C-H-I-N-A.INFO F-I-N-A-N-C-E.INFO F-O-O-D.INFO I-N-S-U-R-A-N-C-E.INFO K-O-R-E-A.INFO T-O-Y-S.INFO 0-1-0.NET is currently on NP auction.

02-09-2008, 12:41 PM	#81 (permalink)
Keynes Powered by Linux! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,540	Everyone should know that these can only be SEOed if the terms between hyphens run naturally. That means, for example, G-A-M-E-S.com can only SEO for the search "G A M E S" (and nobody searches for this) and not for anything related to "Games". Just FYI.

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