Just a quick few : )

Mobi Cheap · 10-04-2007, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

In the 1999-2000 timeframe, according to Namebio, there were 22 .coms sold for $1,000,000 or more...

When I look at DN Journal for this week, I'm graced with a pathetic Atomico.com selling for $80,000. Last week was just as bad.. Matter of fact, this whole year has just been bad period, with only 6 names selling for $1,000,000+ according to DN Journal. Clearly .com hasn't lived up to what was initially hyped.

What's wrong with this argument? A 1999 .com purchase was purely speculative. There weren't many readily available methods to monetize it, and the market was all over the place (just look at Namebio).

Fast forward to .mobi.. Back in September 2006, Mtld was merely selling an idea -- the idea of a mobile Internet being necessary, rather than a more limited version of the Internet we know today. People who invested in this extension early on were buying this idea.

And yes, to quote Mjnels, many .mobi domainers did think this was The Second Coming of Christ, and some of the initial T.R.A.F.F.I.C. sales no doubt reflect that. But that's not the point.. That's the same argument as suggesting .com has gone nowhere since 1999, based on unrealistic hype exhibited by many back then.
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.mobi has gone far beyond an idea at this point. It has become a brand, something that even .net cannot lay claim to have done...

When you buy a .mobi today, you're not only buying the idea that a mobile web is necessary, you're buying the brand (the extension) you think is best fit for the job. You're acknowledging that the general public is poorly served by current solutions (browser redirects, inconsistent "m.domain.com, domain.com/m, domain.com/mobile, mobile.domain.com, wap.domain.com" methods of accessing the mobile versions of sites, etc) and needs a dedicated extension for their mobile devices. Mtld has pushed very hard to get .mobi = mobile recognized in the domainer and large corporation communities alike.

[in the interest of maintaining peace with our neighboring communities the original text here has been removed by the person quoting the post :-)]

And .net will never be a cheap alternative to .com. It's always been a domainer extension.. Nothing more, nothing less.

.COM has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice. It's the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public.. That alone gives it a purpose -- a meaning; a reason to exist and continue to be the Overlord.

.MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time.

See the similarities, the differences, the rationale?

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 09:45 AM

Reece spot on as usual. No wonder you're getting so many green squares!

domainitrix · 10-04-2007, 11:16 AM

See the similarities, the differences, the rationale?[/QUOTE]

Yes Reece, thanks for the reserach and posting.

snoop · 10-04-2007, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

.MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility.

Hot air, there is no major internet company using the .mobi domain, it hardly the extension of choice for mobile sites.

dag · 10-04-2007, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

There is no major internet company using the .mobi, it hardly the extension of choice for mobile sites.

You are so out of touch, you simply embarrass yourself.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

Hot air, there is no major internet company using the .mobi domain, it hardly the extension of choice for mobile sites.

snoop,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

I've watched your posts for quite some time, and you're really good at taking things out of context and fitting it to support your view. You should run for Republican office. This is what Reece actually said:

".MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time."

snoop · 10-04-2007, 05:49 PM

So I guess now people are going to come out with the Bank of America and that one show Disney built a .mobi site for, sorry that isn't examples of major internet companies adopting .mobi. It is an example of market penetration that is a very small fraction of 1%.

The major internet co are companies like Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Facebook, Myspace, almost all the major have come out with mobile sites, and not one them using a .mobi domain, even the backers.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

The major internet co are companies like Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Facebook, Myspace, almost all the major have come out with mobile sites, and not one them using a .mobi domain, even the backers.

Who here ever said they were? We all know this is still speculation, but you don't have to take people's posts out of context to prove it.

scandiman · 10-04-2007, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by dagersh

Originally Posted by snoop

There is no major internet company using the .mobi, it hardly the extension of choice for mobile sites.

You are so out of touch, you simply embarrass yourself.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

"A good sketch is better than a long speech" - Napoleon Bonaparte

snoop · 10-04-2007, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by garrett200

snoop,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

I've watched your posts for quite some time, and you're really good at taking things out of context and fitting it to support your view. You should run for Republican office. This is what Reece actually said:

".MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time."

What has been taken out of context? he has made two statements,

1. It is the extension of choice for mobility - Not true
2. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. - Not likely

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

What has been taken out of context? he has made two statements,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

1. It is the extension of choice for mobility - Not true
2. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. - Not likely

1. Depending on your point of view, it's either true or not. You can't just make a blanket statement that it's not true, because many believe that it is true.
2. Again, that is pure opinion on your part. He said it MAY...and that is true, it MIGHT.

hawkeye · 10-04-2007, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

The major internet co are companies like Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Facebook, Myspace, almost all the major have come out with mobile sites, and not one them using a .mobi domain, even the backers.

Yet they all regged a .mobi domain!! Yeah, yeah, defensive reg blah blah. Funny how mobi was the one extension they all regged for 'defense'!! Maybe because they are the 'major internet companies', is why they are not yet ready to use mobi!! I know one thing, if one or two do, there will be a lot of people (domainers) severely depressed!! (not necessarily you, you have your .coms!)

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 06:03 PM

That's all it's going to take Hawkeye is a couple of them going for it with .mobi. Then it's off and running. And, as you pointed out, most of them have secured their .mobi cousin domain so it is very possible for it to happen.

yoyosean · 10-04-2007, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

Hot air, there is no major internet company using the .mobi domain, it hardly the extension of choice for mobile sites.

http://orange.mobi/
http://nba.mobi
http://msn.mobi - (i would consider msn a major internet company)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800
http://weather.mobi
http://aaa.mobi

seanboy · 10-04-2007, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by garrett200

I've watched your posts for quite some time, and you're really good at taking things out of context and fitting it to support your view. You should run for Republican office.

yoyosean · 10-04-2007, 06:53 PM

u sure only republicans do that?

snoop · 10-04-2007, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by yoyosean

http://orange.mobi/
http://nba.mobi
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800
http://msn.mobi - (i would consider msn a major internet company)
http://weather.mobi
http://aaa.mobi

Mostly just redirects and rehashes to already established mobile sites, eg mobile.msn.com, which is what they actually promote. I think the only one that would count as genuine usage is aaa.mobi (hardly a well known internet co) and perhaps the orange.mobi which looks to be a site for orange France (ditto not exactly trend setter).

Like I said before there are no major internet companies using this extension. I remember people used to make the same claim about .biz, they'd find some companies redirecting .biz domains to their .com or a few middle sized corps (unimportant in grand scheme of things) using it then state that as something significant.

yoyosean · 10-04-2007, 07:22 PM

you are right msn is not a major internet company. Never mind. I dont know how to discuss things with people like you.

type in msn.biz, msn.org, msn.info - tell me what you get.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by yoyosean

u sure only republicans do that?

No, both parties do. I should have said Republicans and Democrats, lol.

yoyosean · 10-04-2007, 07:30 PM

exactly : )

snoop · 10-04-2007, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by yoyosean

you are right msn is not a major internet company. Never mind. I dont know how to discuss things with people like you.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

type in msn.biz, msn.org, msn.info - tell me what you get.

You aren't listening, msn.mobi is a redirect, the company promotes mobile.msn.com, not msn.mobi.

It would be comparable to www.microsoft.biz (actually if I remember that is one that the .biz fans used to talk about as an indication of usage).

yoyosean · 10-04-2007, 07:35 PM

Ok Mr. matter of fact here is an excerpt from mobile mag about MSN it seems to me that they dont promote only mobile.msn.com - now do they : ) ?

August 27
MSN Mobile is pleased to announce that our latest service update
The newest release of MSN Mobile is now posted on our live site. To get there, just go mobile.msn.com on your phone. Or you can also go to msn.mobi or even m.msn.com. We’ve made significant improvements in two of our most important areas: Sports and Entertainment.

I dont see the saying go to Microsoft.biz or msn.net anywhere or at least that I know of.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 07:36 PM

snoop,

Most of us know this already, why are we continuing to rehash the fact that most of them redirect? It doesn't necessarily mean that in the future they won't be stand alone.

Also, did you ever think that .mobi might end up being more of a grassroots success with smaller developers getting into it and making it a success from the ground up? Google, Apple, Microsoft, Craigslist and countless others all started that way. Anything is possible with the internet.

yoyosean · 10-04-2007, 07:36 PM

But thank you for makine me listen to your FACTS!

Dont you love it when people state their opinion as fact! It is rather annoying at least to me anyway.

Mobi Cheap · 10-04-2007, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by yoyosean

...here is an excerpt from mobile mag about MSN ...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

August 27
MSN Mobile is pleased to announce that...

..Or you can also go to msn.mobi or even m.msn.com. ...

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garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	That's all it's going to take Hawkeye is a couple of them going for it with .mobi. Then it's off and running. And, as you pointed out, most of them have secured their .mobi cousin domain so it is very possible for it to happen. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

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yoyosean Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,202	you are right msn is not a major internet company. Never mind. I dont know how to discuss things with people like you. type in msn.biz, msn.org, msn.info - tell me what you get. __________________ *PokerOnline.hk BetOnline.hk California.hk UnitedKingdom.hk GolfCourses.hk Action.hk TexasHoldEm.TW*

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10-04-2007, 11:16 AM	#103 (permalink)
domainitrix NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 221	See the similarities, the differences, the rationale?[/QUOTE] Yes Reece, thanks for the reserach and posting.

10-04-2007, 05:49 PM	#107 (permalink)
snoop New User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,072	So I guess now people are going to come out with the Bank of America and that one show Disney built a .mobi site for, sorry that isn't examples of major internet companies adopting .mobi. It is an example of market penetration that is a very small fraction of 1%. The major internet co are companies like Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Facebook, Myspace, almost all the major have come out with mobile sites, and not one them using a .mobi domain, even the backers.

10-04-2007, 07:35 PM	THREAD STARTER #122 (permalink)
yoyosean Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,202	Ok Mr. matter of fact here is an excerpt from mobile mag about MSN it seems to me that they dont promote only mobile.msn.com - now do they : ) ? August 27 MSN Mobile is pleased to announce that our latest service update The newest release of MSN Mobile is now posted on our live site. To get there, just go mobile.msn.com on your phone. Or you can also go to msn.mobi or even m.msn.com. We’ve made significant improvements in two of our most important areas: Sports and Entertainment. I dont see the saying go to Microsoft.biz or msn.net anywhere or at least that I know of. __________________ *PokerOnline.hk BetOnline.hk California.hk UnitedKingdom.hk GolfCourses.hk Action.hk TexasHoldEm.TW*

10-04-2007, 07:36 PM	#123 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	snoop, Most of us know this already, why are we continuing to rehash the fact that most of them redirect? It doesn't necessarily mean that in the future they won't be stand alone. Also, did you ever think that .mobi might end up being more of a grassroots success with smaller developers getting into it and making it a success from the ground up? Google, Apple, Microsoft, Craigslist and countless others all started that way. Anything is possible with the internet. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

10-04-2007, 07:36 PM	THREAD STARTER #124 (permalink)
yoyosean Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,202	But thank you for makine me listen to your FACTS! Dont you love it when people state their opinion as fact! It is rather annoying at least to me anyway. __________________ *PokerOnline.hk BetOnline.hk California.hk UnitedKingdom.hk GolfCourses.hk Action.hk TexasHoldEm.TW*

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