What is your take on the Sedo .Mobi Auction Successful, Unsuccessful? - Page 4

snoop · 10-04-2007, 12:00 AM

I really have no idea what you are on about. I'm not here to make out .net look prettier than it is, perhaps you think otherwise. I'm simply saying those .mobi sales are nowhere near the .net level.

Mobi Cheap · 10-04-2007, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

I really have no idea what you are on about. I'm not here to make out .net look prettier than it is, perhaps you think otherwise. I'm simply saying those .mobi sales are nowhere near the .net level.

I've always had only two words in my mind when I hear a business tell me their website is something.net. I'm sure you can guess what they are.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

Right, compared to other new extensions it has done well overall in terms of resale prices, but really that isn't saying much because none of the other new extensions really have any traction at all.

That's not saying much? I think it says a lot. It says that the market is bullish on this extension more than any other (besides .com).

snoop · 10-04-2007, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Mobi Cheap

I've always had only two words in my mind when I hear a business tell me their website is something.net. I'm sure you can guess what they are.

I think we are getting off track here as we were talking about domain values. Like I said though I'm not here to make out .net is anything other than a cheap alternative, a second rate extension. The thing is .mobi is more like a third rate extension, there is close to zero public awareness of this extension. It is like comparing a Lada (.mobi) to a Hyundai (.net), the are both not great cars but one is a heck of a lot more ordinary than the other.
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Originally Posted by garrett200

That's not saying much? I think it says a lot. It says that the market is bullish on this extension more than any other (besides .com).

I don't think so, you are forgetting about .net .org and the popular country codes. I would personally say that at the moment .mobi is doing worse than all the other new ext's in terms of a trend. It had a huge jump with the flowers.mobi auction but it has been downhill from the second live auction on, it is in bear mode. It you look at initial prices and prices today it looks good (especially considering the age), and on that basis it has done well, but the trend over the last 8 months or so is downward. I guess it all depends on what time frame you care to use to measure its performance.

Mobi Cheap · 10-04-2007, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

I think we are getting off track here as we were talking about domain values. Like I said though I'm not here to make out .net is anything other than a cheap alternative, a second rate extension. The thing is .mobi is more like a third rate extension, there is close to zero public awareness of this extension. It is like comparing a Lada (.mobi) to a Hyundai (.net), the are both not great cars but one is a heck of a lot more ordinary than the other.

I'll take that as your considered position: that .mobi is "more ordinary" than .net
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

At this point I'm really tempted to say the two words that most other domainers know are heavily associated with .net.

At the same time, I didn't start out tonight intending to rubbish .net, I know nobody enjoys part of their portfolio being talked about in disparaging terms.

So here is my offer: you don't malign .mobi, I don't disparage .net.

Do you think that's fair?

snoop · 10-04-2007, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mobi Cheap

I'll take that as your considered position: that .mobi is "more ordinary" than .net

At this point I'm really tempted to say the two words that most other domainers know are heavily associated with .net.

At the same time, I didn't start out tonight intending to rubbish .net, I know nobody enjoys part of their portfolio being talked about in disparaging terms.

So here is my offer: you don't malign .mobi, I don't disparage .net.

Do you think that's fair?

Dude I don't particularly mind what people say about extensions, as long as it reflects market realities. If you want to go ahead and say .net is crappy I don't mind, in fact I agree! But it is all relative, and that extension is priced far higher than .mobi.

Mobi Cheap · 10-04-2007, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

Dude I don't particularly mind what people say about extensions, as long as it reflects market realities. If you want to go ahead and say .net is crappy I don't mind, in fact I agree! But it is all relative, and that extension is priced far higher than .mobi.

Great, so we don't really disagree that much :-)
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Peace?

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 12:27 AM

The prices speak for themselves today.

People don't pay tens of thousands of dollars for a domain in an extension that is going nowhere.

I don't care how anyone tries to spin it, the reality is that .mobi is a successful extension, and will continue to be. The sales today proved that.

snoop · 10-04-2007, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by garrett200

The prices speak for themselves today.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

People don't pay tens of thousands of dollars for a domain in an extension that is going nowhere.

I don't care how anyone tries to spin it, the reality is that .mobi is a successful extension, and will continue to be. The sales today proved that.

Well obviously some people think it has potential, much like people pay tens of thousands for .info's, the prices falls are pretty undeniable in my view though.

Originally Posted by Mobi Cheap

Great, so we don't really disagree that much :-)

Peace?

Yes, peace

Mobi Cheap · 10-04-2007, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by garrett200

The prices speak for themselves today.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

People don't pay tens of thousands of dollars for a domain in an extension that is going nowhere.

I don't care how anyone tries to spin it, the reality is that .mobi is a successful extension, and will continue to be. The sales today proved that.

Amen!

Over to you guys, I'm signing off very pleased with the way .mobi beat the odds today. I know you share the feeling, and I hope next time the challenge for our fledgling tld is nowhere near as great as it was today.

Have fun!

MC

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 12:52 AM

snoop,

One thing I strongly agree with you about is the fact that .mobi is still speculative. That will all change if it becomes a household name and is equated as being the extension that is 'hand in hand' with the mobile web.

The big thing to watch is who bought these domains today and what they do with them. If some of them were bought by larger entities with big development and promotional plans in mind, that will spell real success.

hawkeye · 10-04-2007, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

This extension did look to have good potential one year ago which isn't really the case today (hence the lower prices whilst the rest of the market has risen).

Snoop, you're not giving a complete fair assessment to your theory of why mobi prices seem to have dropped. Let's not forget, that 100 names went the same day, and all were scheduled to end at the same time. Bidders were not given the luxury of one at a time bidding, as any multi interested bidders were doing just that, checking multiple names while trying to bid to win what they could. Also with so many names to bid on, choses have to be made, and money to cover paying for them. So one who bought 4 names at say 30k, did spend his 120K that day, but had to spread it out. Not all buyers are multi millionaires bidders. Also a key 'sticking' point is that these names had 'requirements' attached, for building a site in so many months etc. One couldn't just buy these names and let them sit dormat in a portfolio for whatever time frame they want. So to compare past sales with no requirements, and no multi same time endings, etc., with ones that do, is just not an accurate comparrison.

snoop · 10-04-2007, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Snoop, you're not giving a complete fair assessment to your theory of why mobi prices seem to have dropped. Let's not forget, that 100 names went the same day, and all were scheduled to end at the same time. Bidders were not given the luxury of one at a time bidding, as any multi interested bidders were doing just that, checking multiple names while trying to bid to win what they could.

Given bidders can use proxies I think that is more of an annoyance rather than something that would effect prices.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Also with so many names to bid on, choses have to be made, and money to cover paying for them. So one who bought 4 names at say 30k, did spend his 120K that day, but had to spread it out. Not all buyers are multi millionaires bidders. Also a key 'sticking' point is that these names had 'requirements' attached, for building a site in so many months etc. One couldn't just buy these names and let them sit dormat in a portfolio for whatever time frame they want. So to compare past sales with no requirements, and no multi same time endings, etc., with ones that do, is just not an accurate comparrison.

The thing is there is no shortage of high quality .mobi names overhanging the market, pretty much the whole lot is to be sold, so I don't think selling off 2% in one go could really be considered too much. A 2% sell off shouldn't rattle the market when 100% of high quality stock is slated for sale. You could argue in the past selling off 10 names at a time is artificially restricting supply when you have every single high value .mobi name to sell off. There is a huge stock overhang which can't be swept under the rug and should be getting factored into prices (because it won't be going away any time soon)

The development requirement would lower values because it would put some people off bidding but I think it is the minority that would not bid and isn't really a good explanation for the very major price falls that we are seeing.

hawkeye · 10-04-2007, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

The development requirement would lower values because it would put some people off bidding but I think it is the minority that would not bid and isn't really a good explanation for the very major price falls that we are seeing.

Exactly!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

What do you mean 'minority'?? You don't 'know', you just don't 'think' that is a good explanation! How do/would you, or me, or anyone, know how many bidders didn't bid because of them, and/or their lack of understanding of them completely. Anyone can stake out that or the opposite, position, and be in the 'right'! And to use this auction as your sightline for 'seeing the very major price falls', while also sidestepping, or making light of, the requirement issues, and the type of auction (no ext. has ever done a comparable type of auction), is a biased opinion, and not an opinion based on the actual known circumstances, past or present. IMO.

snoop · 10-04-2007, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Exactly!

What do you mean 'minority'?? You don't 'know', you just don't 'think' that is a good explanation! How do/would you, or me, or anyone, know how many bidders didn't bid because of them, and/or their lack of understanding of them completely. Anyone can stake out that or the opposite, position, and be in the 'right'! And to use this auction as your sightline for 'seeing the very major price falls', while also sidestepping, or making light of, the requirement issues, and the type of auction (no ext. has ever done a comparable type of auction), is a biased opinion, and not an opinion based on the actual known circumstances, past or present. IMO.

The price drops had begun well before this auction which makes me think it is far more than just the development requirements and the ending times, it started with the second Traffic auction, the one where realestate.mobi got 85k.
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Yes we are all just "thinking" I don't know this for sure the effect of the requirements just like you don't. But I can see when it is all said and done prices have fallen while the rest of the market has gone up greatly, for whatever reason.

The flip side is that the requirement could have had little or no effect on pricing. My gut feeling on this though is that the majority of domainers would not be put off by these very vague requirements and the effect while not trivial on prices probably isn't a major reason for the low prices. I think the main reason is that domainers are slowly turning to the view that the backers aren't going to be doing anything really with this extension, the major internet co's just aren't using it. 12 months ago it was a different story, people were anticipating big things back then.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

I think the main reason is that domainers are slowly turning to the view that the backers aren't going to be doing anything really with this extension, the major internet co's just aren't using it. 12 months ago it was a different story, people were anticipating big things back then.

There is still A LOT of time. Again, it's only been a year. It takes time for new things to take hold.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

All it's going to take in my view is a few biggies to start promoting their .mobi and it will be off and running. That's where the speculation part of this comes in. We don't really know how popular this extension will end up becoming.

But if you wait until it is popular, you're not going to be able to secure names at reasonable prices. That's why you have to be in it to win it, before the big bang happens.

.mobi is kind of like investing in an IPO upstart stock, in that regard. You need to be in on the ground floor.

snoop · 10-04-2007, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by garrett200

There is still A LOT of time. Again, it's only been a year. It takes time for new things to take hold.

All it's going to take in my view is a few biggies to start promoting their .mobi and it will be off and running.

I think that first year was crucial, because in that time pretty much every major Internet co has come out with a mobile site, almost all of them using m.domain or mobile.domain (even though many were .mobi backers), personally I think it is a run race.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 02:07 AM

I disagree, a year is not enough. Not enough people are using the mobile internet yet. There is still a huge opportunity for .mobi because mobile net usage is in its infancy.

hawkeye · 10-04-2007, 02:10 AM

Well I remember in the 1999-2000 area, prices for .coms were falling like fine china in an earthquake. It was all a big bust, with inflated prices and expectations, and the party was over. But the dust settled, the stars realigned and back up went .coms. So, I don't think last rights are in order at present for mobi, and the stars seem to be aligning up ok, though perhaps slower than envisions. As I noted before (elsewhere), there's still a year left on my, and others, regs, and in that year from now if we see a more distinct flatlining pattern, well then is the time for a reality assessment.
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I can't help but wonder if this had been a .cc auction, if any one woulda shown up, let alone see them sell for the same money.

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 02:15 AM

Overall, this was a fine day for .mobi. Most of the names met their reserves and sold for very respectable amounts. Even the .mobi naysayers admit that because it can't be disputed. Whether they think 'prices are falling' or not is irrelevant. The prices are what they are, and they are respectable IMHO.

DBADT2007 · 10-04-2007, 03:39 AM

Hi All,
My take is that, overall, it was a great auction considering our current market. Lots of things are going on at this point in time. If anyone has taken notice its not only dotmobi domains that are going through a market that is bullish, just check out dnjournal and you will see that dotCOMs, dotNETs, dotORGs,... and so forth are considerably down.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

Again, lots of people forget that we (in the US) just had problems with the real estate and home mortgage markets. Although, the federal reserve interest rate cut did have a positive effect on the market there is still much that needs to be done. **something that wasn't true a year back**.

As I stated previously, I have kept an eye around the forums and have been for the most part quiet, busy working on my own dotmobi agenda

.

The time for me to disclose some of the projects I have been working on is fast approaching.

As always, its been a pleasure to be a part of this great community!

Kind Regards,
Leo

NOTE: If anyone official from mTLD, Ltd happens to read this...I know you guys are very busy, however I would find it very helpful if you can give me a response to my request on any case studies and traffic statistics that you may have on any dotMOBI sites. Some of my clients have expressed an interest in this information.

-REECE- · 10-04-2007, 08:40 AM

In the 1999-2000 timeframe, according to Namebio, there were 22 .coms sold for $1,000,000 or more...

When I look at DN Journal for this week, I'm graced with a pathetic Atomico.com selling for $80,000. Last week was just as bad.. Matter of fact, this whole year has just been bad period, with only 6 names selling for $1,000,000+ according to DN Journal. Clearly .com hasn't lived up to what was initially hyped.

What's wrong with this argument? A 1999 .com purchase was purely speculative. There weren't many readily available methods to monetize it, and the market was all over the place (just look at Namebio).

Fast forward to .mobi.. Back in September 2006, Mtld was merely selling an idea -- the idea of a mobile Internet being necessary, rather than a more limited version of the Internet we know today. People who invested in this extension early on were buying this idea.

And yes, to quote Mjnels, many .mobi domainers did think this was The Second Coming of Christ, and some of the initial T.R.A.F.F.I.C. sales no doubt reflect that. But that's not the point.. That's the same argument as suggesting .com has gone nowhere since 1999, based on unrealistic hype exhibited by many back then.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

.mobi has gone far beyond an idea at this point. It has become a brand, something that even .net cannot lay claim to have done...

When you buy a .mobi today, you're not only buying the idea that a mobile web is necessary, you're buying the brand (the extension) you think is best fit for the job. You're acknowledging that the general public is poorly served by current solutions (browser redirects, inconsistent "m.domain.com, domain.com/m, domain.com/mobile, mobile.domain.com, wap.domain.com" methods of accessing the mobile versions of sites, etc) and needs a dedicated extension for their mobile devices. Mtld has pushed very hard to get .mobi = mobile recognized in the domainer and large corporation communities alike.

In short, perhaps Arnie is correct. There's no comparing .mobi to .net. Because .net is useless, as is .info, as is .org, as is every cctld that doesn't have ownership restrictions, I could go on...

And .net will never be a cheap alternative to .com. It's always been a domainer extension.. Nothing more, nothing less.

.COM has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice. It's the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public.. That alone gives it a purpose -- a meaning; a reason to exist and continue to be the Overlord.

.MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time.

See the similarities, the differences, the rationale?

MobiMaven · 10-04-2007, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

[B]

.mobi has gone far beyond an idea at this point. It has become a brand, something that even .net cannot lay claim to have done...

.COM has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice. It's the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public.. That alone gives it a purpose -- a meaning; a reason to exist and continue to be the Overlord.

.MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

See the similarities, the differences, the rationale?

bingo.

BocaVision · 10-04-2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

In the 1999-2000 timeframe, according to Namebio, there were 22 .coms sold for $1,000,000 or more...

When I look at DN Journal for this week, I'm graced with a pathetic Atomico.com selling for $80,000. Last week was just as bad.. Matter of fact, this whole year has just been bad period, with only 6 names selling for $1,000,000+ according to DN Journal. Clearly .com hasn't lived up to what was initially hyped.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

What's wrong with this argument? A 1999 .com purchase was purely speculative. There weren't many readily available methods to monetize it, and the market was all over the place (just look at Namebio).

Fast forward to .mobi.. Back in September 2006, Mtld was merely selling an idea -- the idea of a mobile Internet being necessary, rather than a more limited version of the Internet we know today. People who invested in this extension early on were buying this idea.

And yes, to quote Mjnels, many .mobi domainers did think this was The Second Coming of Christ, and some of the initial T.R.A.F.F.I.C. sales no doubt reflect that. But that's not the point.. That's the same argument as suggesting .com has gone nowhere since 1999, based on unrealistic hype exhibited by many back then.

.mobi has gone far beyond an idea at this point. It has become a brand, something that even .net cannot lay claim to have done...

When you buy a .mobi today, you're not only buying the idea that a mobile web is necessary, you're buying the brand (the extension) you think is best fit for the job. You're acknowledging that the general public is poorly served by current solutions (browser redirects, inconsistent "m.domain.com, domain.com/m, domain.com/mobile, mobile.domain.com, wap.domain.com" methods of accessing the mobile versions of sites, etc) and needs a dedicated extension for their mobile devices. Mtld has pushed very hard to get .mobi = mobile recognized in the domainer and large corporation communities alike.

In short, perhaps Arnie is correct. There's no comparing .mobi to .net. Because .net is useless, as is .info, as is .org, as is every cctld that doesn't have ownership restrictions, I could go on...

And .net will never be a cheap alternative to .com. It's always been a domainer extension.. Nothing more, nothing less.

.COM has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice. It's the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public.. That alone gives it a purpose -- a meaning; a reason to exist and continue to be the Overlord.

.MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time.

See the similarities, the differences, the rationale?

Reece,

You nailed it!!

That was an eloquent, spot on analysis.

Michael

garrett200 · 10-04-2007, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

.MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time.

That hasn't even BEGUN to happen yet. Still, less than 1% of the population, probably even far less than that, even know what .mobi IS, much less what it's used for!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800

We can all hope that this actually comes to pass. That will be the true test of this extensions viability - whether or not it becomes a household name.

Once this thing breaks out, my prediction is that it will break out huge and fast, kind of like youtube did. I'm going to have a smile on my face on that day.

10-04-2007, 12:27 AM	#83 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	The prices speak for themselves today. People don't pay tens of thousands of dollars for a domain in an extension that is going nowhere. I don't care how anyone tries to spin it, the reality is that .mobi is a successful extension, and will continue to be. The sales today proved that. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

10-04-2007, 12:52 AM	#86 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	snoop, One thing I strongly agree with you about is the fact that .mobi is still speculative. That will all change if it becomes a household name and is equated as being the extension that is 'hand in hand' with the mobile web. The big thing to watch is who bought these domains today and what they do with them. If some of them were bought by larger entities with big development and promotional plans in mind, that will spell real success. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

10-04-2007, 02:07 AM	#93 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	I disagree, a year is not enough. Not enough people are using the mobile internet yet. There is still a huge opportunity for .mobi because mobile net usage is in its infancy. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

10-04-2007, 02:10 AM	#94 (permalink)
hawkeye Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hollyweird Posts: 2,570	Well I remember in the 1999-2000 area, prices for .coms were falling like fine china in an earthquake. It was all a big bust, with inflated prices and expectations, and the party was over. But the dust settled, the stars realigned and back up went .coms. So, I don't think last rights are in order at present for mobi, and the stars seem to be aligning up ok, though perhaps slower than envisions. As I noted before (elsewhere), there's still a year left on my, and others, regs, and in that year from now if we see a more distinct flatlining pattern, well then is the time for a reality assessment. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800 I can't help but wonder if this had been a .cc auction, if any one woulda shown up, let alone see them sell for the same money. __________________ FixedPriceDomains.com "Dream, Believe, Achieve!"

10-04-2007, 02:15 AM	#95 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	Overall, this was a fine day for .mobi. Most of the names met their reserves and sold for very respectable amounts. Even the .mobi naysayers admit that because it can't be disputed. Whether they think 'prices are falling' or not is irrelevant. The prices are what they are, and they are respectable IMHO. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

10-04-2007, 12:00 AM	#76 (permalink)
snoop New User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,072	I really have no idea what you are on about. I'm not here to make out .net look prettier than it is, perhaps you think otherwise. I'm simply saying those .mobi sales are nowhere near the .net level.

10-04-2007, 03:39 AM	#96 (permalink)
DBADT2007 NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 200	Hi All, My take is that, overall, it was a great auction considering our current market. Lots of things are going on at this point in time. If anyone has taken notice its not only dotmobi domains that are going through a market that is bullish, just check out dnjournal and you will see that dotCOMs, dotNETs, dotORGs,... and so forth are considerably down. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800 Again, lots of people forget that we (in the US) just had problems with the real estate and home mortgage markets. Although, the federal reserve interest rate cut did have a positive effect on the market there is still much that needs to be done. something that wasn't true a year back. As I stated previously, I have kept an eye around the forums and have been for the most part quiet, busy working on my own dotmobi agenda . The time for me to disclose some of the projects I have been working on is fast approaching. As always, its been a pleasure to be a part of this great community! Kind Regards, Leo NOTE: If anyone official from mTLD, Ltd happens to read this...I know you guys are very busy, however I would find it very helpful if you can give me a response to my request on any case studies and traffic statistics that you may have on any dotMOBI sites. Some of my clients have expressed an interest in this information.

10-04-2007, 08:40 AM	#97 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,996	In the 1999-2000 timeframe, according to Namebio, there were 22 .coms sold for $1,000,000 or more... When I look at DN Journal for this week, I'm graced with a pathetic Atomico.com selling for $80,000. Last week was just as bad.. Matter of fact, this whole year has just been bad period, with only 6 names selling for $1,000,000+ according to DN Journal. Clearly .com hasn't lived up to what was initially hyped. What's wrong with this argument? A 1999 .com purchase was purely speculative. There weren't many readily available methods to monetize it, and the market was all over the place (just look at Namebio). Fast forward to .mobi.. Back in September 2006, Mtld was merely selling an idea -- the idea of a mobile Internet being necessary, rather than a more limited version of the Internet we know today. People who invested in this extension early on were buying this idea. And yes, to quote Mjnels, many .mobi domainers did think this was The Second Coming of Christ, and some of the initial T.R.A.F.F.I.C. sales no doubt reflect that. But that's not the point.. That's the same argument as suggesting .com has gone nowhere since 1999, based on unrealistic hype exhibited by many back then. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=380800 .mobi has gone far beyond an idea at this point. It has become a brand, something that even .net cannot lay claim to have done... When you buy a .mobi today, you're not only buying the idea that a mobile web is necessary, you're buying the brand (the extension) you think is best fit for the job. You're acknowledging that the general public is poorly served by current solutions (browser redirects, inconsistent "m.domain.com, domain.com/m, domain.com/mobile, mobile.domain.com, wap.domain.com" methods of accessing the mobile versions of sites, etc) and needs a dedicated extension for their mobile devices. Mtld has pushed very hard to get .mobi = mobile recognized in the domainer and large corporation communities alike. In short, perhaps Arnie is correct. There's no comparing .mobi to .net. Because .net is useless, as is .info, as is .org, as is every cctld that doesn't have ownership restrictions, I could go on... And .net will never be a cheap alternative to .com. It's always been a domainer extension.. Nothing more, nothing less. .COM has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice. It's the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public.. That alone gives it a purpose -- a meaning; a reason to exist and continue to be the Overlord. .MOBI has a purpose -- it is the extension of choice for mobility. It may become the only extension recognized by the large majority of the general public to be associated with mobile compatibility. It has a purpose -- to deliver mobile content, one site at a time, every time. See the similarities, the differences, the rationale?

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