[Ergo]

I've updated graph of deleted domains with recent number of deleting domains. Blue line is a trend!

[planoali]

Originally Posted by Ergo

I've updated graph of deleted domains with recent number of deleting domains. Blue line is a trend!

Nice work and hopefully the trend continues that way .

"We're glad that you're fond of this member, but please give some rep points to some other members before giving it to Ergo again."

[bricio]

Andrei, thanks a lot for this important graph... i couldnt add a rep either
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/378968-llll-com-evaluation-thread.html

it shows march wasnt a good month to LLLL.com; besides the number of drops (many more dropped in march than in february) showed here as Lorenzo already said there were scammers, naysayers saying LLLL.com would fail and recession
everything within one month!!!

so, because of all these factors there was a correction - i would even say it wasnt a fair correction - it was a correction with bad factors together what caused a decrease we werent wait

but now with drops decreasing every single day their prices will rise more than we were expecting and we will have a good idea in may of what is waiting for us in the end of 2008

[index2703]

I was going to sell 15 of my LLLL.com because they were due to expire this year but I see no reason to sell at the moment.

Looks like we're having a bit of a "correction" in the price of 4 lettered domains but I'm going to renew my domains now and reassess the situation in the new year.

I don't think it would be a good idea to let go of any LLLL.com at the moment. In fact I would imagine that those people who take advantage of this lull in prices will be glad they did in a year from now.

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by index2703

I was going to sell 15 of my LLLL.com because they were due to expire this year but I see no reason to sell at the moment. Looks like we're having a bit of a "correction" in the price of 4 lettered domains but I'm going to renew my domains now and reassess the situation in the new year. I don't think it would be a good idea to let go of any LLLL.com at the moment. In fact I would imagine that those people who take advantage of this lull in prices will be glad they did in a year from now.

same here.....just received "another" (I get one every week at least)GoDaddy renewal notes:

Quote:

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 The domains listed below are expiring in 5 days. Domain names you have selected to renew manually: IRYB.COM - Apr. 14, 2008 YGEB.COM - Apr. 14, 2008 YGEF.COM - Apr. 14, 2008 YGEG.COM - Apr. 14, 2008 YMEF.COM - Apr. 14, 2008 YRIL.COM - Apr. 14, 2008 You have elected that the domain name(s) above renew manually. This means that they WILL EXPIRE if you do not log in to your account and renew them by Apr. 14, 2008. You must manually renew these domain names by Apr. 14, 2008.

according to the nayasayers I should let them expire or hurry to sell....

Dear naysayers: It`s not going to happen!!

[Ergo]

Quote:

according to the nayasayers I should let them expire or hurry to sell....

No. Selling is to difficult. Just let they drop!

[Pred]

Originally Posted by Ergo

I've updated graph of deleted domains with recent number of deleting domains. Blue line is a trend!

repped
thanks for time you put in

[krx]

Originally Posted by Ergo

I've updated graph of deleted domains with recent number of deleting domains. Blue line is a trend!

Very interesting graph (can't rep again ). This is based on TDNAM drops?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

It looks like we're down to about 40 drops per day, on avg. That's about 14,600 per year, or 3% of all LLLL.coms. Amazing, really, that even that lower amount is still dropping...

So the reasons for names to drop are what? The owner...
1. dies.
2. forgets about them.
3. doesn't know/care they have value and lets them drop.
4. is a committed naysayer and won't renew them on principal.

Does that about cover it?

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by krx

Very interesting graph (can't rep again ). This is based on TDNAM drops? It looks like we're down to about 40 drops per day, on avg. That's about 14,600 per year, or 3% of all LLLL.coms. Amazing, really, that even that lower amount is still dropping... So the reasons for names to drop are what? The owner... 1. dies. 2. forgets about them. 3. doesn't know/care they have value and lets them drop. 4. is a committed naysayer and won't renew them on principal. Does that about cover it?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968
As we are just 5 months after the buyout, I think we could not expect any better so far.

[EG.domains]

Originally Posted by Ergo

I've updated graph of deleted domains with recent number of deleting domains. Blue line is a trend!

Lower highs & new lows .. excellent downtrend.

Good work. rep++

[Pred]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

As we are just 5 months after the buyout, I think we could not expect any better so far.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968


wish i had more.
i don't have many
i still prefer lower end L-L-L.com to lower end LLLL.com personally......
BUT

upper end LLLL.com are about as sexy as it gets! LOL

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by arnie

wish i had more. i don't have many i still prefer lower end L-L-L.com to lower end LLLL.com personally...... BUT upper end LLLL.com are about as sexy as it gets! LOL

Tell me about it in 2010 when I see this scenario:

Premium LLL.com going for $50,000+ each
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968
Worst LLL.com going for $20,000+ each

Premium LLLL.com going for $2,000+ each
Worst LLLL.com going for $500+ each

Premium LLLL.net going for $500+ each
(oh and yes LLLL.net have run out too by now...)

L-L-L.com going for 1/20 of LLL.com


That is......more or less what I expect by the end of 2010 , while the Worldwide Internet Penetration should go from the actual 20 % to about 30 % bringing in another 500 millions internet users.

[xman]

Quote:

according to the nayasayers I should let them expire or hurry to sell.... Quote: No. Selling is to difficult. Just let they drop!

I think I'm going to drop the ones I regged in early 2007 especially the pronounceable ones, those domains are wortless since I carefully hand picked them way before the buy out.

[Shenron]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

Tell me about it in 2010 when I see this scenario: Premium LLL.com going for $50,000+ each Worst LLL.com going for $20,000+ each Premium LLLL.com going for $2,000+ each Worst LLLL.com going for $500+ each Premium LLLL.net going for $500+ each (oh and yes LLLL.net have run out too by now...) L-L-L.com going for 1/20 of LLL.com

**Shenron Gets the calculator**
**Shenron faints**

If Lorenzo is right by the end of 2010 Shenron buys a new car... probably 2!

[Pred]

i still think for certain examples:

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968
eg:

B-L-C.com which i nailed for $84 other day on snap
dates from 1999, so effectively regfee

&

BLCO.com (example) which maybe you could get for $800 - $1.5k range if lucky (reseller price)

beats hands down in terms of finding an enduser and an appreciating asset rather than................

the blinkered XZQ.com for 7k lets say, that in all honesty (regardless of differing countries alphabet/letter importance) has little chance of finding an enduser, and when it does is hardly likely to go for significantly more imho

i'm seeing bottom end LLL decrease imho
maybe just money is tight or domainers are getting smarter and more open-minded

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by arnie

i still think for certain examples: eg: B-L-C.com which i nailed for $84 other day on snap dates from 1999, so effectively regfee & BLCO.com (example) which maybe you could get for $800 - $1.5k range if lucky (reseller price) beats hands down in terms of finding an enduser and an appreciating asset rather than................ the blinkered XZQ.com for 7k lets say, that in all honesty (regardless of differing countries alphabet/letter importance) has little chance of finding an enduser, and when it does is hardly likely to go for significantly more imho ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 i'm seeing bottom end LLL decrease imho maybe just money is tight or domainers are getting smarter and more open-minded

I disagree about that. For example my CLFO.com has been for sale on my Blog 2 days and got zero offers at $500 despite it`s a quality Premium LLLL with age.

It will take still a while before people will realise where this train is going.

Originally Posted by Shenron

**Shenron Gets the calculator** **Shenron faints** If Lorenzo is right by the end of 2010 Shenron buys a new car... probably 2!

I hope so!!!

I just emailed my other half so tomorrow morning she`ll see the house I want to buy:

http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...&tm=1207754298

And that is gets sold then this one may do it:

http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...&tm=1207756045

[Shenron]

**Shenron hopes to get invited for the welcome party!!!**

[Pred]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

I disagree about that. For example my CLFO.com has been for sale on my Blog 2 days and got zero offers at $500 despite it`s a quality Premium LLLL with age. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 It will take still a while before people will realise where this train is going.

the principle is right or i wouldn't have wrote

about you not getting offer, doesnt prove anything. its worth high xxx now imho,
potentially mid - high xxxx to enduser, dont think anyone would doubt, especially with 'o' on end for online or organisation

just that resellers are stretched all over and can only buy so many things

it's a holder imho

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by arnie

the principle is right or i wouldn't have wrote ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 about you not getting offer, doesnt prove anything. its worth high xxx now imho, potentially mid - high xxxx to enduser, dont think anyone would doubt, especially with 'o' on end for online or organisation just that resellers are stretched all over and can only buy so many things it's a holder imho

lol.....or maybe that I`m not good at attracting visitors to my Blog....

Anyway, I have patience.

[bgmv]

Originally Posted by Ergo

No. Selling is to difficult. Just let they drop!

I agree, selling is practically impossible even with Low Reseller Prices. I have over 100 LLLL.com for sale that I am selling 10% off and no one wants to buy. These are great names, some triple premium for $60 and still no interest over 2 weeks. Maybe its just me, I even highlighted the damn thread.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

*check my sig*

[Ergo]

Originally Posted by krx

Very interesting graph (can't rep again ). This is based on TDNAM drops?

It's based on all drops information, taken from Pool.com. But as I understand it doesn't contain information about GoDaddy names because they don't actually drop and instead the are automatically renewed by GoDaddy. It seems that together with Godaddy "drops" Pool.com number should be increased by 20%.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

Quote:

It looks like we're down to about 40 drops per day, on avg. That's about 14,600 per year, or 3% of all LLLL.coms. Amazing, really, that even that lower amount is still dropping...

You might copy this info to Excel to make your own graphs and analysis

date	drops
01.11.2007	90
02.11.2007	85
03.11.2007	60
04.11.2007	128
05.11.2007	52
06.11.2007	78
07.11.2007	80
08.11.2007	78
09.11.2007	87
10.11.2007	126
11.11.2007	74
12.11.2007	60
13.11.2007	69
14.11.2007	93
15.11.2007	56
16.11.2007	58
17.11.2007	124
18.11.2007	70
19.11.2007	77
20.11.2007	55
21.11.2007	96
22.11.2007	53
23.11.2007	70
24.11.2007	122
25.11.2007	489
26.11.2007	75
27.11.2007	48
28.11.2007	55
29.11.2007	198
30.11.2007	75
01.12.2007	64
02.12.2007	66
03.12.2007	70
04.12.2007	70
05.12.2007	57
06.12.2007	75
07.12.2007	56
08.12.2007	78
09.12.2007	69
10.12.2007	51
11.12.2007	67
12.12.2007	73
13.12.2007	78
14.12.2007	81
15.12.2007	68
16.12.2007	90
17.12.2007	45
18.12.2007	43
19.12.2007	86
20.12.2007	70
21.12.2007	69
22.12.2007	132
23.12.2007	41
24.12.2007	51
25.12.2007	84
26.12.2007	61
27.12.2007	159
28.12.2007	61
29.12.2007	77
30.12.2007	39
31.12.2007	50
01.01.2008	44
02.01.2008	60
03.01.2008	77
04.01.2008	58
05.01.2008	98
06.01.2008	55
07.01.2008	42
08.01.2008	44
09.01.2008	47
10.01.2008	47
11.01.2008	54
12.01.2008	102
13.01.2008	55
14.01.2008	52
15.01.2008	52
16.01.2008	57
17.01.2008	73
18.01.2008	137
19.01.2008	82
20.01.2008	90
21.01.2008	455
22.01.2008	40
23.01.2008	105
24.01.2008	31
25.01.2008	80
26.01.2008	106
27.01.2008	43
28.01.2008	52
29.01.2008	49
30.01.2008	146
31.01.2008	38
01.02.2008	65
02.02.2008	114
03.02.2008	46
04.02.2008	64
05.02.2008	55
06.02.2008	47
07.02.2008	51
08.02.2008	51
09.02.2008	50
10.02.2008	61
11.02.2008	58
12.02.2008	53
13.02.2008	41
14.02.2008	46
15.02.2008	44
16.02.2008	61
17.02.2008	52
18.02.2008	40
19.02.2008	47
20.02.2008	47
21.02.2008	44
22.02.2008	27
23.02.2008	77
24.02.2008	35
25.02.2008	29
26.02.2008	53
27.02.2008	21
28.02.2008	66
29.02.2008	29
01.03.2008	77
02.03.2008	31
03.03.2008	22
04.03.2008	34
05.03.2008	37
06.03.2008	64
07.03.2008	35
08.03.2008	76
09.03.2008	44
10.03.2008	26
11.03.2008	100
12.03.2008	35
13.03.2008	29
14.03.2008	25
15.03.2008	42
16.03.2008	34
17.03.2008	34
18.03.2008	22
19.03.2008	37
20.03.2008	53
21.03.2008	112
22.03.2008	119
23.03.2008	41
24.03.2008	47
25.03.2008	22
26.03.2008	31
27.03.2008	45
28.03.2008	122
29.03.2008	74
30.03.2008	38
31.03.2008	34
01.04.2008	32
02.04.2008	41
03.04.2008	47
04.04.2008	27
05.04.2008	65
06.04.2008	15
07.04.2008	26
08.04.2008	26
09.04.2008	31
10.04.2008	40
11.04.2008	34
12.04.2008	47
13.04.2008	51
14.04.2008	42

Currently premium pronouncables show best sales. But different niches in LLLL.coms develop by jumps. Remember the time when premiums were still at 200-250$ and crappy LLLL.coms produced produced 100% ROI monthly? Then was the time when quad-premiums had a sudden increase in price and after that triple premiums + W,V,U,K,J,Y... Every time we see that one category of LLLL.coms going up while another stagnates or has recession. I think it's normal state of things.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

I think triple premiums will be the next most increasing in price thing, because they are dirt cheap right now and their dropping rate decreases.

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by bgmv

I agree, selling is practically impossible even with Low Reseller Prices. I have over 100 LLLL.com for sale that I am selling 10% off and no one wants to buy. These are great names, some triple premium for $60 and still no interest over 2 weeks. Maybe its just me, I even highlighted the damn thread. *check my sig*

Just drop them.....you say it`s difficult but you are asking $89 for QMDQ.com


????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

Originally Posted by Ergo

It's based on all drops information, taken from Pool.com. But as I understand it doesn't contain information about GoDaddy names because they don't actually drop and instead the are automatically renewed by GoDaddy. It seems that together with Godaddy "drops" Pool.com number should be increased by 20%. You might copy this info to Excel to make your own graphs and analysis date drops 01.11.2007 90 02.11.2007 85 03.11.2007 60 04.11.2007 128 05.11.2007 52 06.11.2007 78 07.11.2007 80 08.11.2007 78 09.11.2007 87 10.11.2007 126 11.11.2007 74 12.11.2007 60 13.11.2007 69 14.11.2007 93 15.11.2007 56 16.11.2007 58 17.11.2007 124 18.11.2007 70 19.11.2007 77 20.11.2007 55 21.11.2007 96 22.11.2007 53 23.11.2007 70 24.11.2007 122 25.11.2007 489 26.11.2007 75 27.11.2007 48 28.11.2007 55 29.11.2007 198 30.11.2007 75 01.12.2007 64 02.12.2007 66 03.12.2007 70 04.12.2007 70 05.12.2007 57 06.12.2007 75 07.12.2007 56 08.12.2007 78 09.12.2007 69 10.12.2007 51 11.12.2007 67 12.12.2007 73 13.12.2007 78 14.12.2007 81 15.12.2007 68 16.12.2007 90 17.12.2007 45 18.12.2007 43 19.12.2007 86 20.12.2007 70 21.12.2007 69 22.12.2007 132 23.12.2007 41 24.12.2007 51 25.12.2007 84 26.12.2007 61 27.12.2007 159 28.12.2007 61 29.12.2007 77 30.12.2007 39 31.12.2007 50 01.01.2008 44 02.01.2008 60 03.01.2008 77 04.01.2008 58 05.01.2008 98 06.01.2008 55 07.01.2008 42 08.01.2008 44 09.01.2008 47 10.01.2008 47 11.01.2008 54 12.01.2008 102 13.01.2008 55 14.01.2008 52 15.01.2008 52 16.01.2008 57 17.01.2008 73 18.01.2008 137 19.01.2008 82 20.01.2008 90 21.01.2008 455 22.01.2008 40 23.01.2008 105 24.01.2008 31 25.01.2008 80 26.01.2008 106 27.01.2008 43 28.01.2008 52 29.01.2008 49 30.01.2008 146 31.01.2008 38 01.02.2008 65 02.02.2008 114 03.02.2008 46 04.02.2008 64 05.02.2008 55 06.02.2008 47 07.02.2008 51 08.02.2008 51 09.02.2008 50 10.02.2008 61 11.02.2008 58 12.02.2008 53 13.02.2008 41 14.02.2008 46 15.02.2008 44 16.02.2008 61 17.02.2008 52 18.02.2008 40 19.02.2008 47 20.02.2008 47 21.02.2008 44 22.02.2008 27 23.02.2008 77 24.02.2008 35 25.02.2008 29 26.02.2008 53 27.02.2008 21 28.02.2008 66 29.02.2008 29 01.03.2008 77 02.03.2008 31 03.03.2008 22 04.03.2008 34 05.03.2008 37 06.03.2008 64 07.03.2008 35 08.03.2008 76 09.03.2008 44 10.03.2008 26 11.03.2008 100 12.03.2008 35 13.03.2008 29 14.03.2008 25 15.03.2008 42 16.03.2008 34 17.03.2008 34 18.03.2008 22 19.03.2008 37 20.03.2008 53 21.03.2008 112 22.03.2008 119 23.03.2008 41 24.03.2008 47 25.03.2008 22 26.03.2008 31 27.03.2008 45 28.03.2008 122 29.03.2008 74 30.03.2008 38 31.03.2008 34 01.04.2008 32 02.04.2008 41 03.04.2008 47 04.04.2008 27 05.04.2008 65 06.04.2008 15 07.04.2008 26 08.04.2008 26 09.04.2008 31 10.04.2008 40 11.04.2008 34 12.04.2008 47 13.04.2008 51 14.04.2008 42 Currently premium pronouncables show best sales. But different niches in LLLL.coms develop by jumps. Remember the time when premiums were still at 200-250$ and crappy LLLL.coms produced produced 100% ROI monthly? Then was the time when quad-premiums had a sudden increase in price and after that triple premiums + W,V,U,K,J,Y... Every time we see that one category of LLLL.coms going up while another stagnates or has recession. I think it's normal state of things. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 I think triple premiums will be the next most increasing in price thing, because they are dirt cheap right now and their dropping rate decreases.

Ergo, I posted your graph on my BLog, I hope it`s ok

[bgmv]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

Just drop them.....you say it`s difficult but you are asking $89 for QMDQ.com

- 10%, $80 for a XLLX.com is not too much IMO. Especially one that gets traffic + some revenue
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

How much would you ask for if this was yours???

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by bgmv

- 10%, $80 for a XLLX.com is not too much IMO. Especially one that gets traffic + some revenue

I don`t think it`s too much either especially when there are people paying $300 for 4r6.com or d3w.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

but....unfortunately some people keep bashing the poor letter Q

[bgmv]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

I don`t think it`s too much either especially when there are people paying $300 for 4r6.com or d3w.com ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 but....unfortunately some people keep bashing the poor letter Q

Which I personally hate as well, but there is alot of potential for it in the Chinese market.

I really want to sell all of the LLLL.com that are listed in the "Double Premium" section. Im looking for a bulk offer/deal if anyone is interested. I will go considerably lower than the stated prices.