LLLL.com evaluation thread - Page 5

xman · 10-22-2007, 01:02 PM

It's amazing these non-premium VCVC.com that were being auctioned in TDNam between $10-$40 few months ago are now in the range between $100 - $400.

I remember when you could buy like azaw.com type of combo for only $10-$20 now those days are gone

abcproductions · 10-22-2007, 04:06 PM

it seems most NPers believe that CVCV.com's are among the best of the LLLL.coms but I have more than 700 LLLL.coms of all varieties and I have received my highest offers from CCCC.coms. In the past week I have sold three CCCC.coms for a total of $2300. (One beginning with a P for 300, one beginning with a F for 1050 and one beginning with an X for $950) I simply stay patient until an end user makes a healthy offer. I'm finding that my CVCV.com domains are less desirable than my others.

geb9696 · 10-22-2007, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by abcproductions

it seems most NPers believe that CVCV.com's are among the best of the LLLL.coms but I have more than 700 LLLL.coms of all varieties and I have received my highest offers from CCCC.coms. In the past week I have sold three CCCC.coms for a total of $2300. (One beginning with a P for 300, one beginning with a F for 1050 and one beginning with an X for $950) I simply stay patient until an end user makes a healthy offer. I'm finding that my CVCV.com domains are less desirable than my others.

What CVCV.coms do you have?

italiandragon · 10-22-2007, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by ssamriga

a few ebay sales:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/378968-llll-com-evaluation-thread.html

YFIG.com- 46.48$
DXUM.com- 26.50$
IIZG.com- 26.00$
JVJZ.com- 22.00$
KGUV.com- 20.50$
KNUY.com- 18.60$
QEUC.com- 15.50$
YXEA.com- 11.00$

So bad letters too going for above reg fee

I took IIZG.com- 26.00$

Looks good since right now on ebay IIZP and it`s already at $42 (not finished yet)

They keep rising.

TLDnetworks · 10-22-2007, 08:28 PM

how about BCOO regged since 1997?

ssamriga · 10-23-2007, 12:40 AM

BCOO is a good one, keep it for a while and youll get mid x,xxx

I was bidding on IIZp, it went to someone for 42$, just because auctions are ending in good time for Americans, which is 5am for me

italiandragon · 10-23-2007, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by ssamriga

BCOO is a good one, keep it for a while and youll get mid x,xxx
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

I was bidding on IIZp, it went to someone for 42$, just because auctions are ending in good time for Americans, which is 5am for me

eh..I know , it happens all the time to me. Think about the dropping time......AMERICANS ARE SO LUCKY

DomainMagnate · 10-23-2007, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

I took IIZG.com- 26.00$

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

Looks good since right now on ebay IIZP and it`s already at $42 (not finished yet)

They keep rising.

that sounds cheap, congrats

~MG

Pred · 10-23-2007, 04:06 AM

FSGI.com sold on sedo today for $10,000

check sedo homepage.
interestingly the net is free to reg and they weren't interested.

-REECE- · 10-23-2007, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by arnie

FSGI.com sold on sedo today for $10,000

check sedo homepage.
interestingly the net is free to reg and they weren't interested.

First Security Group, Inc? Methinks so.. Me also thinks that someone is going to reg that .net very soon

Alex · 10-23-2007, 04:12 AM

This shows how end users are focusing only on .com's (with a few exceptions like zune)

Originally Posted by Reece

First Security Group, Inc? Methinks so.. Me also thinks that someone is going to reg that .net very soon

-REECE- · 10-23-2007, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by alexsimon

This shows how end users are focusing only on .com's (with a few exceptions like zune)

Yep

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

I don't blame them, really. Dotcom projects a certain image -- and regardless of traffic loss, it's just not an image I'd ever want not to project.

If you're going to spend XXX,XXX putting a commercial on TV or potentially X,XXX,XXX with a large advertising campaign, what sense does it make to not have a .com?

Some people seem to misunderstand cents and sense

Good sense is about saving cents and there's no better way to save cents than by not sending any of your targetted traffic to domainers or worse -- your competitors.

DomainMagnate · 10-23-2007, 04:54 AM

So what's the min price you're noticing for all premium letters LLLL's? Is it above $100?

~MG

filter · 10-23-2007, 05:17 AM

I would prefer CCCC to many of the goofier sounding if pronounceable CVCV or VCVC combinations, and (personally) am starting to accept CCCC as "pronounceable" in their own special way - ie, 4 syllables (+2 for any 'w' in the mix) ... Consider the corporate brand image carried via CCCC acronym such as KPMG.com or CMGI.com compared to "empty vessel" coined word such as Tupi.com or whatever ... (and certainly no offense intended to anyone holding Tupi.com in their portfolio - sounds great, I'm sure it's worth good money and is perfect for many end users!)

Different strokes as they say ... it's all good, more or less. Well - okay, some more, some less ...!

Originally Posted by abcproductions

it seems most NPers believe that CVCV.com's are among the best of the LLLL.coms but I have more than 700 LLLL.coms of all varieties and I have received my highest offers from CCCC.coms. In the past week I have sold three CCCC.coms for a total of $2300. (One beginning with a P for 300, one beginning with a F for 1050 and one beginning with an X for $950) I simply stay patient until an end user makes a healthy offer. I'm finding that my CVCV.com domains are less desirable than my others.

Alex · 10-23-2007, 05:24 AM

I would certainly buy all premium letters LLLL's for $100. I saw all the auctions at TDNAM, Sedo and even namepros going over $100 for these goodies. Too bad I have only a few of them.

Originally Posted by Michael_Goldman

So what's the min price you're noticing for all premium letters LLLL's? Is it above $100?

~MG

-REECE- · 10-23-2007, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by alexsimon

I would certainly buy all premium letters LLLL's for $100. I saw all the auctions at TDNAM, Sedo and even namepros going over $100 for these goodies. Too bad I have only a few of them.

Another reason why I believe all LLLL.coms will eventually have value..

Just think about how many premium LLLL.coms there actually are for a second..

If we take 3character.coms premium definition: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T are all premium. That would make over 80,000 (eighty thousand, no typo) LLLL.coms premium. Add in the CVCV and VCVC and we're at about 100,000 premium LLLL.coms (sorry I really can't do the addition-subtraction thingy here at 6:30 am)

And I'm sure many of you would argue that K,U,V -- some of you, maybe even W and Y premium if there's only 1 of them.

Alex · 10-23-2007, 05:45 AM

IMO W is premium. I made another post on the last page and there are very much quality acronyms for W. Also K is a good letter. I think I will start a thread with letter valuation.

When we think of LLLL's, we do not think of how many times does W appear in a word, but how many times does a word start with W. because LLLL's will have potential as acronyms. I personally prefer more a W in a LLLL than a F.

K, U also hold some value. But not as premium as the others.

DomainMagnate · 10-23-2007, 05:49 AM

I think it's reasonable to assume that what makes a letter premium is the higher possibility of consisting a word with it, that is basically the frequency of usage.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968
So according to wikipedia the frequencies are:

Quote:

e 12.702%
t 9.056%
a 8.167%
o 7.507%
i 6.966%
n 6.749%
s 6.327%
h 6.094%
r 5.987%
d 4.253%
l 4.025%
c 2.782%
u 2.758%
m 2.406%
w 2.360%
f 2.228%
g 2.015%
y 1.974%
p 1.929%
b 1.492%
v 0.978%
k 0.772%
j 0.153%
x 0.150%
q 0.095%
z 0.074%

Which makes it strange.. what is the 3character.com classification based on?
According to this "u" is very premium and so is w..

~MG

SLL · 10-23-2007, 06:29 AM

I believe that the frequency in which a letter is the 1st letter of a word, rather than it's usage anywhere in a word, is more important.
Do we know of any frequency stats for letters as the 1st letter of a word?

I tend to believe that J is OK for the 1st position of LLLL.com because of the common American names that start with J (James, John, Jay etc.) and W or J is OK for 2nd position because of common last names (Williams, Wilson, Jones, James etc.). I am wondering if names are included as words in this study.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

Also, does the study place more weight on the frequency of words?
The words "on", "the", "is" or "of" are going to show up much more frequently in the English language than "zebra" or "velocity" or "use".
What is the weighted percentage of the use of a letter based on word usage?

I am not sure this study is giving us the full picture on letter usage that is important to users/buyers of LLLL.com.

Pred · 10-23-2007, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

First Security Group, Inc? Methinks so.. Me also thinks that someone is going to reg that .net very soon

No it was 'Facility Solutions Group'. They had FSGConnect.com before, judging by email
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

Anyway, screw the net.
Hate nets.

before i posted the com, i nailed the mobi though

-REECE- · 10-23-2007, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by arnie

No it was 'Facility Solutions Group'. They had FSGConnect.com before, judging by email

Anyway, screw the net.
Hate nets.

before i posted the com, i nailed the mobi though

rofl

Never heard of them, but nice to see a strong LLLL.com sale outside our cvcv/vcvc avenues. Selling 1/1500 LLLL.coms at this price annually would pay for the renewals on everything.. Think that's achievable?

TLDnetworks · 10-23-2007, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by ssamriga

BCOO is a good one, keep it for a while and youll get mid x,xxx

I was bidding on IIZp, it went to someone for 42$, just because auctions are ending in good time for Americans, which is 5am for me

Thanks, anyone else?

Pred · 10-23-2007, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

rofl

Never heard of them, but nice to see a strong LLLL.com sale outside our cvcv/vcvc avenues. Selling 1/1500 LLLL.coms at this price annually would pay for the renewals on everything.. Think that's achievable?

yep. even more likely to sell 5 at 2k each though

-REECE- · 10-23-2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by arnie

yep. even more likely to sell 5 at 2k each though

Why not sell 5 @ 2k, maybe a couple for 3k and 1 for 10k every couple years

Perfectly reasonable imho, and with proper liquidation of the remainder, should turn a very reasonable profit

bricio · 10-23-2007, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by westblock

how about BCOO regged since 1997?

premium LLLL reg'd since 1997?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

10-22-2007, 01:02 PM	#101 (permalink)
xman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: X-I Posts: 2,878	It's amazing these non-premium VCVC.com that were being auctioned in TDNam between $10-$40 few months ago are now in the range between $100 - $400. I remember when you could buy like azaw.com type of combo for only $10-$20 now those days are gone __________________ Vegetarian Hut ~ Sc.am

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10-23-2007, 12:40 AM	#106 (permalink)
ssamriga Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EU Posts: 1,872	BCOO is a good one, keep it for a while and youll get mid x,xxx I was bidding on IIZp, it went to someone for 42$, just because auctions are ending in good time for Americans, which is 5am for me __________________ SnowyRange.com 16 years old PR3 GEO name with traffic My domains for sale: DNFit.com - Domain Names that Fit Your Business

10-23-2007, 04:54 AM	#113 (permalink)
DomainMagnate Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,611	So what's the min price you're noticing for all premium letters LLLL's? Is it above $100? ~MG __________________ Domain Magnate

10-23-2007, 05:45 AM	#117 (permalink)
Alex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oradea Posts: 3,132	IMO W is premium. I made another post on the last page and there are very much quality acronyms for W. Also K is a good letter. I think I will start a thread with letter valuation. When we think of LLLL's, we do not think of how many times does W appear in a word, but how many times does a word start with W. because LLLL's will have potential as acronyms. I personally prefer more a W in a LLLL than a F. K, U also hold some value. But not as premium as the others. __________________ Castles Neuschwanstein Castle Sedlec Ossuary

10-22-2007, 04:06 PM	#102 (permalink)
abcproductions NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hollywood, California Posts: 761	it seems most NPers believe that CVCV.com's are among the best of the LLLL.coms but I have more than 700 LLLL.coms of all varieties and I have received my highest offers from CCCC.coms. In the past week I have sold three CCCC.coms for a total of $2300. (One beginning with a P for 300, one beginning with a F for 1050 and one beginning with an X for $950) I simply stay patient until an end user makes a healthy offer. I'm finding that my CVCV.com domains are less desirable than my others.

10-23-2007, 04:06 AM	#109 (permalink)
Pred Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,713	FSGI.com sold on sedo today for $10,000 check sedo homepage. interestingly the net is free to reg and they weren't interested.

10-23-2007, 06:29 AM	#119 (permalink)
SLL NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 471	I believe that the frequency in which a letter is the 1st letter of a word, rather than it's usage anywhere in a word, is more important. Do we know of any frequency stats for letters as the 1st letter of a word? I tend to believe that J is OK for the 1st position of LLLL.com because of the common American names that start with J (James, John, Jay etc.) and W or J is OK for 2nd position because of common last names (Williams, Wilson, Jones, James etc.). I am wondering if names are included as words in this study. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 Also, does the study place more weight on the frequency of words? The words "on", "the", "is" or "of" are going to show up much more frequently in the English language than "zebra" or "velocity" or "use". What is the weighted percentage of the use of a letter based on word usage? I am not sure this study is giving us the full picture on letter usage that is important to users/buyers of LLLL.com.

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