LLLL.com evaluation thread - Page 2

topdaytrader · 09-30-2007, 09:42 AM

Yeah!!! Internet Bubble 2.0.. here we go again~

champ_rock · 09-30-2007, 09:54 AM

not internet bubble, but may be Domaining Bubble 1.0

we never know....

italiandragon · 09-30-2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by topdaytrader

Yeah!!! Internet Bubble 2.0.. here we go again~

define then what is the sale of:

HOO.com for $47,000 @ SEDO

buckshotdots · 10-01-2007, 09:53 AM

I liked this one as you can pronounce it-sorta (ph makes an F) and had a history-

reph.com $515.00
fgst.com $350.00
firh.com $257.00

gary-

Azam.biz · 10-02-2007, 06:38 AM

We were lucky enough to sell azam.com last year for tens of thousands of pounds. However, we're not able to find a buyer for axoy.com for even a few thousand dollars.

It's hard to put a value on specific XXXX.coms and a lot of it is hit or miss. Sometimes you can find a company which must have a domain name and then they will pay more than one would imagine it was worth.

italiandragon · 10-02-2007, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Azam.biz

We were lucky enough to sell azam.com last year for tens of thousands of pounds. However, we're not able to find a buyer for axoy.com for even a few thousand dollars.

It's hard to put a value on specific XXXX.coms and a lot of it is hit or miss. Sometimes you can find a company which must have a domain name and then they will pay more than one would imagine it was worth.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/378968-llll-com-evaluation-thread.html
Hi, no one believed that AZAM.com sold for $70,000. You did not prove it.

VURG · 10-03-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

SSFO.com or GBBT.com then we should be at minimun $200 to $300

3 of a kind such DDDF.com or TLLL.com will get over $300 to $500

You missed out "two pair" LLLL.com (e.g. PFPF.COM, UQQU.COM, JJKK.COM). I think that they are better than "3 of a kind" domains. They are more rare (1950 VS 2600 possibilities). After thinking about it, I would say it is better to categorise the domains as "one pair", "3 of a kind" and "2 pair".

Personally I would classify domains with one pair to be worth reg fee. It's to early to give additional value to a domain just because it has two letters that are the same.

The Categories I would use:

4 of A Kind -
High Grade CVCV -
Med Grade CVCV -
Low Grade CVCV -
High Grade VVVV -
Med Grade VVVV -
Low Grade VVVV -
High Grade VCVC -
Med Grade VCVC -
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Low Grade VCVC - RegFee
High Grade CVVC -
Med Grade CVVC -
Low Grade CVVC - RegFee
High Grade VCCV -
Med Grade VCCV -
Low Grade VCCV - RegFee
High Grade Pronouceable LLLL (other) -
Med Grade Pronouceable LLLL (other) -
Low Grade Pronouceable LLLL (other) - RegFee
Premium Only (Domains without letters J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z) -
Semi-Premium Only (No J,Q,V,X,Y,Z) -
Triple Premium (Only one of J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z) - RegFee
Double Premium (Two of J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z) - RegFee
Single Premium Category not necessary as it's not much better than 0 premium letters.
Premium Only Two Pair -
Semi-Premium (Or Double Premium) Two Pair -
Low Grade Two Pair -
Premium Only 3 Of A Kind -
Semi-Premium (or Triple Premium) 3 Of A Kind -
Low Grade 3 Of A Kind -
Premium One Pair -
Semi-Premium One Pair -
Low Grade One Pair - RegFee
ALLL.com (LLLL.com Domains starting with the letter A) -
Other - RegFee

I only tried to value the domains I consider to be worth reg fee at the moment. Call me a pessimist if you want.

WORDSWORTH · 10-04-2007, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by VURG

Personally I would classify domains with one pair to be worth reg fee. It's to early to give additional value to a domain just because it has two letters that are the same.

If the domain has double starting or double ending letters, they tend to attract a small premium. None are available to register. I have sold a few domains recently to resellers for between $12 and $20. They were grabbed very quickly at these prices too. I saw another sold recently here at NP for $2x.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

Examples of domains that I would presently value at these prices (without taking traffic into account). Obviously more memorable names and/or names with traffic would be worth more:

RRQO.COM
PXKK.COM

Domains with two of the same letter that I would presently value at reg. fee:

RQRO.COM
KXPK.COM

My opinion only, based on some recent sales.

Matt.

italiandragon · 10-04-2007, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by VURG

You missed out "two pair" LLLL.com (e.g. PFPF.COM, UQQU.COM, JJKK.COM). I think that they are better than "3 of a kind" domains. They are more rare (1950 VS 2600 possibilities). After thinking about it, I would say it is better to categorise the domains as "one pair", "3 of a kind" and "2 pair".
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

Personally I would classify domains with one pair to be worth reg fee. It's to early to give additional value to a domain just because it has two letters that are the same.

The Categories I would use:

4 of A Kind -
High Grade CVCV -
Med Grade CVCV -
Low Grade CVCV -
High Grade VVVV -
Med Grade VVVV -
Low Grade VVVV -
High Grade VCVC -
Med Grade VCVC -
Low Grade VCVC - RegFee
High Grade CVVC -
Med Grade CVVC -
Low Grade CVVC - RegFee
High Grade VCCV -
Med Grade VCCV -
Low Grade VCCV - RegFee
High Grade Pronouceable LLLL (other) -
Med Grade Pronouceable LLLL (other) -
Low Grade Pronouceable LLLL (other) - RegFee
Premium Only (Domains without letters J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z) -
Semi-Premium Only (No J,Q,V,X,Y,Z) -
Triple Premium (Only one of J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z) - RegFee
Double Premium (Two of J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z) - RegFee
Single Premium Category not necessary as it's not much better than 0 premium letters.
Premium Only Two Pair -
Semi-Premium (Or Double Premium) Two Pair -
Low Grade Two Pair -
Premium Only 3 Of A Kind -
Semi-Premium (or Triple Premium) 3 Of A Kind -
Low Grade 3 Of A Kind -
Premium One Pair -
Semi-Premium One Pair -
Low Grade One Pair - RegFee
ALLL.com (LLLL.com Domains starting with the letter A) -
Other - RegFee

I only tried to value the domains I consider to be worth reg fee at the moment. Call me a pessimist if you want.

Hi Phil, very interesting reply thanks!

Yes I forgot double pairs. I`m trying to bring real live examples (like the one on ebay) to each of the categories. And in the last days, on Ebay it`s hard to see any LLLL.com for less than $10, then if you put one with a pair , you will see how easily reach $20.

Alex · 10-04-2007, 06:34 AM

From VURG's list, I slightly don't agree with low end VCVC's. They are not regfee. Or do you define a domain like YZUQ.com a VCVC? In that case I agree with you.

But the most of the VCVC's (not including Y as a vowel) are fetching far more than regfee.

champ_rock · 10-04-2007, 06:42 AM

just some examples of recent VCVC sales at ebay
i think they were the semi-premium VCVC.com (considering letter quality)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013

italiandragon · 10-04-2007, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by champ_rock

just some examples of recent VCVC sales at ebay
i think they were the semi-premium VCVC.com (considering letter quality)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013

well, I bidded on the second one only till just $22 , I did not like those letters at all. Compared to the one I sold on SEDO in August for $330 (OZUD.com) those ones were not much pronunciable in my opinion. But I bid always low and was not expecting that they were ending for less than $100, probably not many people noticed them.

champ_rock · 10-04-2007, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

well, I bidded on the second one only till just $22 , I did not like those letters at all. Compared to the one I sold on SEDO in August for $330 (OZUD.com) those ones were not much pronunciable in my opinion. But I bid always low and was not expecting that they were ending for less than $100, probably not many people noticed them.

i noticed them and i did not think that they were worth that much that they just went for. i would have bid a max of 25$ on them but the bidding was already above that price
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

i left them

DomainMagnate · 10-04-2007, 07:07 AM

So the million dollar question (well more like a $100

)
IN the cvcv.com names, is 'y' considered a c, or a v?

~MG

italiandragon · 10-04-2007, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by champ_rock

i noticed them and i did not think that they were worth that much that they just went for. i would have bid a max of 25$ on them but the bidding was already above that price
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

i left them

the thing is that at SEDO or Snap they would have got more than $100 as $100 in those venues are peanuts

Originally Posted by Michael_Goldman

So the million dollar question (well more like a $100

)
IN the cvcv.com names, is 'y' considered a c, or a v?

~MG

some consider Y to be a vowel but only in the 4th letter like:

BABY - PONY - SONY

not things like :

BYBO - PYLE - FYLE

But there is an exception:

MYLE - MYPA - MYGI

That would be the word MY + the other 2 LL.

champ_rock · 10-04-2007, 07:11 AM

I consider Y to be sort of a semi-vowel.. its value is not the same as a pure vowel but its not a consonant either

DomainMagnate · 10-04-2007, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

some consider Y to be a vowel but only in the 4th letter like:

BABY - PONY - SONY

not things like :

BYBO - PYLE - FYLE

But there is an exception:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

MYLE - MYPA - MYGI

That would be the word MY + the other 2 LL.

how about these:

okyl.com
otyw.com

would you call them vcvc.com names?

~MG

champ_rock · 10-04-2007, 07:14 AM

I would call them VCVC but not the same as OKIL or OTEW

there value is lower

italiandragon · 10-04-2007, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Michael_Goldman

how about these:

okyl.com
otyw.com

would you call them vcvc.com names?

~MG

okyl sounds better but I`m not a native English speaker so I`m not the best judge about that.

DomainMagnate · 10-04-2007, 07:17 AM

Thanks.. anyone wants to give it a try to attach a price to those two

I've got many similar ones also

~MG

rbedell · 10-04-2007, 07:27 AM

What about double 'Y', as in pyfy?

Alex · 10-04-2007, 07:58 AM

based on past sales on ebay, here on namepros, and sedo, we can say that (almost) all VCVC 's have a minimum price of $35 - $40. Those from that ebay listing were low quality letters in my opinion.

Last week I got UPUQ.com from TDNAM for $31+$8 and I feel I made a good buy.

italiandragon · 10-04-2007, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by alexsimon

based on past sales on ebay, here on namepros, and sedo, we can say that (almost) all VCVC 's have a minimum price of $35 - $40. Those from that ebay listing were low quality letters in my opinion.

Last week I got UPUQ.com from TDNAM for $31+$8 and I feel I made a good buy.

you DID

Pred · 10-04-2007, 08:23 AM

i think 'Q' can be good sometimes at beginning or end.

I have 'FOLQ'

sounds like 'Folk'

DomainMagnate · 10-04-2007, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by arnie

i think 'Q' can be good sometimes at beginning or end.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968

I have 'FOLQ'

sounds like 'Folk'

very nice one!

~MG

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09-30-2007, 09:54 AM	#27 (permalink)
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10-01-2007, 09:53 AM	#29 (permalink)
buckshotdots Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 2,705	I liked this one as you can pronounce it-sorta (ph makes an F) and had a history- reph.com $515.00 fgst.com $350.00 firh.com $257.00 gary-

10-04-2007, 06:34 AM	#35 (permalink)
Alex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oradea Posts: 3,132	From VURG's list, I slightly don't agree with low end VCVC's. They are not regfee. Or do you define a domain like YZUQ.com a VCVC? In that case I agree with you. But the most of the VCVC's (not including Y as a vowel) are fetching far more than regfee.

10-04-2007, 06:42 AM	#36 (permalink)
champ_rock Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: http://akshayjain.org Posts: 2,830	just some examples of recent VCVC sales at ebay i think they were the semi-premium VCVC.com (considering letter quality) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=378968 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013

10-04-2007, 07:11 AM	#41 (permalink)
champ_rock Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: http://akshayjain.org Posts: 2,830	I consider Y to be sort of a semi-vowel.. its value is not the same as a pure vowel but its not a consonant either

10-04-2007, 07:14 AM	#43 (permalink)
champ_rock Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: http://akshayjain.org Posts: 2,830	I would call them VCVC but not the same as OKIL or OTEW there value is lower

10-04-2007, 07:27 AM	#46 (permalink)
rbedell NamePros Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 150	What about double 'Y', as in pyfy?

10-04-2007, 07:58 AM	#47 (permalink)
Alex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oradea Posts: 3,132	based on past sales on ebay, here on namepros, and sedo, we can say that (almost) all VCVC 's have a minimum price of $35 - $40. Those from that ebay listing were low quality letters in my opinion. Last week I got UPUQ.com from TDNAM for $31+$8 and I feel I made a good buy.

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Pred Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,713	i think 'Q' can be good sometimes at beginning or end. I have 'FOLQ' sounds like 'Folk'

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