scandiman

From what I understand there are 2 more similar auctions coming in a few months plus the traffic names as well. everything isn't all wrapped up in this one sedo auction.

Jeff

Agree.
Supply vs. Demand

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Mobi Cheap

Absolutely right Scandi, but wouldn't you agree the prices for the subsequent ones are likely to be lower if the first (and probably best one) bombs?
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And it won't be Jeff's fault, right?

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scandiman

My post was in reference to mobi cheaps desired ripple effect. No surprise you'd twist it into an anti mobi thing.

Jeff

Twist? It's the reality of the present situation in my personal, humble view ... you're free to share your opinions (and logic) to the contrary here, if you wish Paul.
Thanks for understanding.
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dag

There you have it...he's now changed his mantra: "SUPPY" vs demand. I don't think that one's as catchy. (EDIT: Oh, you went and changed it as I typed this. Oh well.)
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But you know, Jeff, in all seriousness: it's a fallacy that you're trying to put across here. Each of the .mobis being auctioned is different, so the "supply" of each is 1. The demand for each one will be different.

Supply vs. demand really only would work here if every one of the names was identical (which of course in the world of domains is impossible).

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scandiman

Everyone here seems fixated on auction prices, what I'm more interested in seeing is the other half of the equation; what sites show up on some of these names.

This is the first auction I am aware of with names tied to dev requirements. Without a doubt there will be lower prices as a result as many pure speculators don't want to deal with it.

So how do you define "bombs"? If loans sells for 50k is this the death of mobi? This kind of nonsense has been batted around here since I first showed up, sadly some things never change.

Jeff

Understandable, since they ARE auctions at Sedo!

Righto, it's called the RFP process!
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If mTLD stuck to the original plan and promises, we would get a LOT less of these excuses ("evolving business model", "tied to development requirements", "lower prices are a result", etc.) we're starting to see now, IMHO.

Just my two sense.
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scandiman

Auctions of domains with dev requirements. It's not my opinion, it's fact.
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Jeff, feel free to bash mTLD all you want, that's your standard operating procedure and we all get that.

What you label "excuses" for lower auction prices is an easy conclusion to make. A domain with requirements attached will draw fewer bidders. And considering most classic domainers only care about parking traffic and revenue, the requirements are a turn off.

Part 2 of this auction is the dev requirements. Like I said before, that is what I am more interested in. If Loans sells for 50k or less some people will be crying the mobi world is coming to an end. Same song I've heard before. I think I'll go to amazon.mobi and buy something more informative to read.

Mobi Cheap

Now if anyone disagrees with that I'd be tempted to ignore them from now on.

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Jeff

Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/h.html

Link: http://m.amazon.com (m.amazon.com)

Good Luck, Paul ... and however it all turns out, see you at their conclusion!
Onward and upward ...
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PVFARKAS

Absolutely. I'd like some just to have endusers with marketing budgets or access to exclusives that can only be found there. Hopefully that would bring the traffic. Everything else is secondary. If news sells and remains parked or less than spectacular, then that's fine, we'll be fine. In fact, those with enews or breakingnews, or whatever, will reap in more traffic. Hopefully the majority of these premiums will not go down the crapper in parked sites, but that's fine too. Hopefully handfulls of powerful names, with powerful campaigns, won't. And after that, some of the nice underused names may be sold and then they may ideed bring more clout to the extension.
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The key is to look at what could bring the nail to the coffin and if that is occurring. Everything else becomes becomes levels of progress.

Loans is currently at 1% of the .com, huh, chicken little.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney...er_medium.html
"He saw the signs...He tried to warn us...Now in our darkest hour he's got a plan to save us all...Run!...The sky is falling-take cover...When it comes to saving the world it helps to be a little chicken..."


well that's fine, we thought in very basic terms, we were looking like 1-2+% of .com just a month ago (of course certain mobile names with more valuation, etc, etc). Why would the public think we're necessarily at 5-10% now? And the percentage game is extremely dangerous to begin with, it fails to factor so much, including whether the buyer of .com got a good price, whether the seller needed to sell, how the market was doing that year, whether that industry, service or product has changed in popularity, whether a similar name is kicking but now, whether internet use in that region has grown... the list goes on.

-REECE-

No doubt.. It will be a huge awakening to many that their mobis aren't .coms should that occur. I came into .mobi with a low XX,XXX investment, coming out with anything more than I put in, I would define as a success. If I could come out with whatever loans.mobi sells for, I'd be happy as a clam

For months I've likened .mobi to .net, .org, and .info. I still feel that way about it. These auctions may make me feel like .mobi is more of a .net in price than a .info, but either way, it's been an incredible success already compared to most recently launched extensions (.travel, .eu, .aero, dare I say soon .asia).

People who got the names for reg fee on Sept 26 or bought them cheap in the aftermarket have nothing to complain about.. Nice profits coming their way whether mobi is a .net or a .info. I really don't see it going below .info in valuation at this point, which means that anyone who invested sensibly should do alright.

scandiman

Nope, I type amazon.mobi in my phone. I would never remember nor do I have any desire to type that nonsense you posted. Amazon.mobi works great .

Enjoy your redirect fixation™ , oh and BTW, the Sedo auctions are found at http://sedo.com/main.php3?language=us since you want so desperately to type in the complete URLs that you are redirected to.

Mobi Cheap

ROFL!

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scandiman

Whoever think mobis are coms is in for a rude awakening period. I'm very much a mobi enthusiast, that's no mystery here, but there are only a handful of names in mobi that I think have a shot at being on par with their com counterpart, assuming the tld matures and grows in public awareness over the next few years. It's all so very new, just a few days past 1 year old and has grown beyond my wildest dreams in this short time. The fact that some hyper-inflated expectations are not being met doesn't concern me, that's not how I measure things.
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Very sensible thinking PV, on all counts. Someone rep him for me, the system says I need to share the love with others first.

Jeff

Paul, as you well know ... the general public has no knowledge of Amazon.mobi as it's not a stand-alone developed .MOBI website, and they are not promoting it IMHO.

You'll be visiting it along with a handful of other .MOBI Friends all alone ... absent a developed "ecosystem" (which the RFP process would have ensured, by the way) that one day could have supported this branding, as you suggest.

We've had this conversation before, so let's just agree to disagree and move along to following the status of the Sedo auctions (the topic of this thread), IMHO.
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09-11-2007, 07:00 PM EST:
Thanks kindly.
-Jeff

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Rep added, great idea!

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scandiman

Ah, the classic Jeff in the corner post:

"You're wrong"
"Agree to Disagree"
"Please move on"



Yes, for auction updates, please type the full redirected URL: http://sedo.com/main.php3?language=us

Jeff

It's all good, Paul ... have a nice weekend!
-Jeff

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PVFARKAS

Thanks for the rep guys, appreciated.

"That’s an old argument and one that I don’t think has legitimacy in a world where there are literally hundreds of domains. Is there an alter universe among amazon.com and amazon.co.uk and amazon.fr and amazon.jp and amazon.mobi? (And yes, there is an amazon.mobi.) A domain sets the expectation for the kind of content that’s at a particular iteration of a site; .mobi, I’d say, is setting a simple expectation for an end-user that “the content at this site will work on a mobile phone.”

Vance Hedderel, Director of PR & Communications, dotMobi
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"An average user will type in amazon.mobi and get their needs met with amazon. Another successful .mobi customer. They will not care beyond that.
If there was a header that said Amazon.mobi, then perhaps .mobi branding would be more reinforced in that user's mind, but the fact that they get to amazon when typing it, tells the user that anything.mobi may take me to the mobile version. Enough positive experiences and they will become a mobier. And maybe they may not use it exclusively either. That's fine too. Hopefully they'll tell a friend and we'll continue to grow.

Oh, quick google search has - Results 11 - 20 of about 1,730 for amazon.mobi
referencing the inconsequential redirect...

And for "ecosystem," one author has written.. "My book is still number one in novel sales on Amazon.Mobi."

dag

I've had much more interesting "conversations" with brick walls, actually. And they don't use so many facetious smileys in the process.

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newton

The ignore function works wonderfully

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dag

I tried it, but it didn't really work -- if "ignore" worked as wonderfully as I'd like, it would also prevent me from seeing his comments show up in others' replies.

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Jeff

Ignore ... at your own peril, my Rosey© friends!

See you soon, relax, and have a nice .MOBI Weekend™ ...
-Jeff

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