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netmeg · 10-25-2007, 10:18 AM

Google's not crazy about keyword stuffing, true, and I think to some degree that's responsible for the "-950" penalty, where your site ends up on the last page of results for the search queries you're most counting on.

But the other thing to think about is focus. If you try to do too much on one domain, with a multitude of keywords trying to cover every base, your ads will probably be less focused and specific, and I believe the user that stumbles across your parked domain may be less likely to see what he's looking for, and therefore to click. I try to keep it to one single or two-word keyword (phrase) per domain.

Cyberian · 10-25-2007, 10:54 AM

This deserves a sticky

getaddicted · 10-25-2007, 12:00 PM

Hello, Its a great Post.... And its good everyone could share there own views.

I would like to share My viewpoints on domain parking optimisation.

When i register a domain i really research word and try to get the excat keyword domain. So before i research i check which keyword pays how much and the tools mostly i use is adword tool. and it has always helped me..

I know my domain is new and i wont get any traffic straight of.. but i know i have this domain for 1 long year

.... and i really work on keywords for each of my domain very hard.. i have been getting $15 to $30 a click also some or the time...... @ domainsponsor mostly.. which i feel pays really well for your financial domains.....

And my domains mostly consist of Finance Domains.... And thats the only success ladder for me...

The thing is you really need to optimise your domain very well.. On a 2 click parked page.. We see so many categories.. And sometime it tend to happen that if our keyword and the domain is related to XYZ but the user has clicked ABC keyword.. or supposing you have got a domain related to Refinance loan.. and use may click something like finance or other than that.. And we may end up getting less per click..

I really check and have the excat keywords related to that name... When i optimise domains in domainsponsor i add 4 keywords. which gets the best result..

People who have little traffic comming daily for them its ok.. But people like me who register new domain and then optimise.. So for me every visitor comming to my site is very important.. i know its for every one but for domains with reall less traffic its more important..

So if you want to get success with domains with less traffic...then you need to have really good paying keyword domain.. Thats the way to success. and it has worked for me..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/376027-domain-parking-keyword-optimization-basic-tips.html

I register new domains.. optimise my domains and just hope 10 clicks in 1 yr would be more than enough for me.. Coz i know i would make around $15 to $20 from that many clicks and even money when i get $5 to $10 per click... so could take average of $20.. thts pretty good investment atleast for me...

So i feel its all depeds on keyword If you have Less traffic @ ur domain. But with yahoo Feeds you could really do even better. coz you have ability to add content, meta tags and lods of additional options which makes your website look like a real one and it increase the chances of visitors visiting your domain would stay more.... And from last few months i have been using this stuff and i have seen a real good improvement in traffic as well as the CTR..

You could make money from parking with less traffic.. or say very less traffic also.. just good optimisation and good keywords would help a lot..

Its just the Game of keywords if you got less traffic domains

DnPresident · 10-27-2007, 07:33 AM

Stay away from high paying keywords, I've got enough competition already

but them $15.00 clicks are mighty nice.

netmeg · 10-28-2007, 09:02 AM

Something I have been thinking about recently is that there is really more than one type of keyword that needs to be taken into consideration when optimizing a parked domain.

There's the keyword you want to use with the parking company, in order to attract relevant (and hopefully high paying) ads.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027

But then there are also the keywords that your users are likely to be typing in to the search engines to find whatever it is that you've got.

These are not necessarily the same.

For example: if you have a domain that deals with loan or debt consolidation, you probably want a keyword like "debt consolidation" in order to get the specific ads that you want.

But if you think about how users actually search, there's probably only a small percentage of them that would think to type in "debt consolidation" into Google. More likely they would type in something like "lower bill payments" or "get out of debt", because it's in those terms that they think of their particular situation. So your "user" keywords for debt consolidation would "lower bill payments" and/or "get out of debt."

In fact, if you have access to search data, you'd be amazed how many people type full questions into Google, as though it were Ask.com - "how can I lower my bill payments?"

That's why it's really good to have the ability to edit page titles , meta description tags, and optimally, your own content - because THAT is where you want to put in the keywords that the users will actually use. Not necessarily the keyword you tell the parking company to use in order to get the right ads.

Thenamegame · 10-28-2007, 08:00 PM

"That's why it's really good to have the ability to edit page titles , meta description tags, and optimally, your own content - because THAT is where you want to put in the keywords that the users will actually use."

So, Netmeg, which parking companies let you do this?

netmeg · 10-28-2007, 08:28 PM

Bodis, Parked, 1Plus, that I've used so far.

DnPresident · 10-31-2007, 12:32 PM

Here's an important tip, it's up to you to figure it out so you can see the maximum benefit...

I have found that certain "Maybe all" keywords pay more on certain days of the week. I have found the answers to a couple of them but have a lot more work to do. The reason this is important for me is that I can make adjustments accordingly...

Now I have to see if I can find more.

PAULJEFFERY · 11-05-2007, 12:49 PM

yeah, I try to do what Getadd' does - for me keywords in the domain name are very important, I do a fair bit of research. I use the free version of 'web ceo' - you can download it from webceo.com - It not only tells you the most current keywords and their ranking but shows you the top sites that are using those exact keywords. I have also learned that google take a lot of notice of keywords in domain names especially with the adsense. I've had some experiences where I've had a domain name with a word in it that has more than 2 meanings and I get adsense adds automatically generated for the wrong meaning. So that's something else to think about when choosing a name. Also good idea to keep abbreviations and synonyms in mind - I think search engines are paying more attention to synonyms these days than they used to.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027

cheers,
Pjay

DnPresident · 11-08-2007, 01:06 PM

Edited

Real High paying keywords can pay good but are often terms that have a low Overall daily estimated amount of real searches.

The advertisers paying for clicks to this keyword know it's not searched a lot and are really looking for a completed conversion on their end and will often benefit greatly from a true conversion.

In addition to the advertiser knowing this fact, Google and Yahoo know as Well.

So the outcome = Too many clicks to a high paying keyword will lower your traffic quality score very quickly.

Hafsoh · 12-29-2007, 03:17 AM

Great tips in here, thanks for the info!

chassmp3 · 01-11-2008, 10:44 PM

Hello Everyone,
I see there aren't any recent posts, so I'm hoping to revive this thread with my questions. First, I've got my few domains with parked.com, I do use their advanced options which allow me to put in keywords in the meta tags and title tag. What I'm not really understanding is if parked.com pages actually get indexed and if the keywords I'm entering in these areas actually make a difference since there is field named "keyword" where you're only supposed to put one keyword as I just learned.
The other question I have is regarding adsense and adwords, am I understanding this correctly? Not all ads displayed with either program pay the same correct? I've used Adsense for a short time and unsuccessfuly, and I know that it pays you when people click on ads they display on your site when you sign up for the program, so are all ads displayed worth the same? But with Adwords I understand that you're buying traffic to redirect to your site or parked site, but there's a lot more to this than what I know isn't there? Because I read stories about how people bid from .05 cents to $1.00 for the clicks that will take people to where they want, but is this only controlled by the amount of bidding or is there something else to this scheme? Obviously if the redirect does not translate into a click or clicks you still get charged the money you bid by google, right? It's good to be google.
Last thing, what parking companies pay 5 or 15 dollars a click? I just read this entire thread and I thought I read that somewhere.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027

Thanks
Chas.

brian789 · 01-11-2008, 11:34 PM

If your registering a keyword rich domain, does the order of the keywords matter? Thanks

catch · 01-26-2008, 08:14 PM

thanks !

NPKJB · 01-26-2008, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by DnPresident

Along with many other factors, I recently learned that PPC providers like adwords, adcenter, Yahoo like you to have a contact link on the page your driving traffic to. This is one of the things that when combined with other adjustments you've made will help your ad to get a better placement at a lower cost.

Have you noticed a big difference since adding contact links to your Parked sites? How much lower percentage wise are your CPC's?

miraculix · 02-10-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Have you noticed a big difference since adding contact links to your Parked sites? How much lower percentage wise are your CPC's?

I read a study about this (sorry, don`t know where) what was very clear.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027
The result was that it had no better results with contact/about/privacy policy links onpage because there are to much advertisers where don`t know that. SEM is not the same like SEO and the "secrets for the professionals". SEM has the goal to be available also for non-pro advertisers.

About what I am not sure is how "domain for sold" links/text take effect.
Does anybody know more about that?

soggyindo · 03-09-2008, 11:59 PM

hiya,
i hope this hasn't been covered, but when setting up minisites for 'DIY parking' (with content etc.) - anyone found a way to get yahoo, google or other click ads that say "sponsored listings", like the parked, namedrive etc. all have?
i'm trying to avoid the "ads by google" and "ads by yahoo" tags - "sponsored listings" instead goes nicely under the radar.

or is that something kept for the big customers - "adsense for demains" and all?

opalxx · 03-12-2008, 01:49 PM

hi from oz.
This is all very interesting as although a newbie i have a few domains parked at pp and parked. I have made many mistakes and have domains which i thought were great but seem to be pretty poor. I am not sure if it is because of me using low traffic keywords or simply because the domain itself is useless. Knowing what the available tools are for optimizing and how to use them is a never ending challenge.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027

I think that there is a great job opportunity for someone with the right experience to research, advise and tweak parked names for customers. I certainly would be interested, especially since i am in the bush and my little pc is on dialup of 28kbps and takes half an hour to load a page which by that time i've forgotten why i went there.

Sorry if this is a little away from the good advice. Just been thinking about this for a while.

jacksonm · 04-16-2008, 03:37 PM

Q: What is the fastest way to get google to re-index your domain?

A: Park it and start getting a boatload of clicks.

You will be re-indexed within 2 days max, and bye-bye traffic. They are getting really aggressive now.

.

SebastianJu · 04-16-2008, 03:41 PM

I presume you mean de-index = out of google-index... re-index would be the opposite...

jacksonm · 04-17-2008, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by SebastianJu

I presume you mean de-index = out of google-index... re-index would be the opposite...

No, I meant re-index.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027

They will come back and re-index your site which will be a parked page, rankings drop and search traffic stops. Parked pages are not kicked out of Google's index, they just get extremely low rankings.

I tested this a few times with an extremely popular minisite of mine. With the minisite, it gets piles of search traffic. Park it and it gets piles of clicks for about 2 days, then it is re-indexed by google and traffic nearly stops. Checking with the site:domain.com search, it can be seen that the domain is clearly still in the index and what is indexed is the parking page.

.

phantom4444 · 04-18-2008, 07:06 AM

Thanks for the very useful info, I'm a real parking newb!

websitebroker · 05-23-2008, 12:17 PM

Great links - been looking for tools that provided the keywords being typed in for my website business.
david

xiequanqin · 05-31-2008, 09:39 AM

Thanks a lot.

allena · 06-16-2008, 03:08 AM

Is Digital point is much better than wordtracker to find the keywords?

10-25-2007, 10:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Google's not crazy about keyword stuffing, true, and I think to some degree that's responsible for the "-950" penalty, where your site ends up on the last page of results for the search queries you're most counting on. But the other thing to think about is focus. If you try to do too much on one domain, with a multitude of keywords trying to cover every base, your ads will probably be less focused and specific, and I believe the user that stumbles across your parked domain may be less likely to see what he's looking for, and therefore to click. I try to keep it to one single or two-word keyword (phrase) per domain. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

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Cyberian Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Emerald Triangle Posts: 4,558	This deserves a sticky __________________ Remember who your loyalties are divided between, and choose for the right reasons who deserves them.

10-27-2007, 07:33 AM	#29 (permalink)
DnPresident Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: At home Posts: 2,026	Stay away Stay away from high paying keywords, I've got enough competition already but them $15.00 clicks are mighty nice. __________________ ladder Heaters stock prices vanity receptacle Chronic Heartburn missed miscarriage stock prices

10-28-2007, 09:02 AM	#30 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Something I have been thinking about recently is that there is really more than one type of keyword that needs to be taken into consideration when optimizing a parked domain. There's the keyword you want to use with the parking company, in order to attract relevant (and hopefully high paying) ads. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027 But then there are also the keywords that your users are likely to be typing in to the search engines to find whatever it is that you've got. These are not necessarily the same. For example: if you have a domain that deals with loan or debt consolidation, you probably want a keyword like "debt consolidation" in order to get the specific ads that you want. But if you think about how users actually search, there's probably only a small percentage of them that would think to type in "debt consolidation" into Google. More likely they would type in something like "lower bill payments" or "get out of debt", because it's in those terms that they think of their particular situation. So your "user" keywords for debt consolidation would "lower bill payments" and/or "get out of debt." In fact, if you have access to search data, you'd be amazed how many people type full questions into Google, as though it were Ask.com - "how can I lower my bill payments?" That's why it's really good to have the ability to edit page titles , meta description tags, and optimally, your own content - because THAT is where you want to put in the keywords that the users will actually use. Not necessarily the keyword you tell the parking company to use in order to get the right ads. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

10-28-2007, 08:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
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getaddicted NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: India Posts: 278	Hello, Its a great Post.... And its good everyone could share there own views. I would like to share My viewpoints on domain parking optimisation. When i register a domain i really research word and try to get the excat keyword domain. So before i research i check which keyword pays how much and the tools mostly i use is adword tool. and it has always helped me.. I know my domain is new and i wont get any traffic straight of.. but i know i have this domain for 1 long year .... and i really work on keywords for each of my domain very hard.. i have been getting $15 to $30 a click also some or the time...... @ domainsponsor mostly.. which i feel pays really well for your financial domains..... And my domains mostly consist of Finance Domains.... And thats the only success ladder for me... The thing is you really need to optimise your domain very well.. On a 2 click parked page.. We see so many categories.. And sometime it tend to happen that if our keyword and the domain is related to XYZ but the user has clicked ABC keyword.. or supposing you have got a domain related to Refinance loan.. and use may click something like finance or other than that.. And we may end up getting less per click.. I really check and have the excat keywords related to that name... When i optimise domains in domainsponsor i add 4 keywords. which gets the best result.. People who have little traffic comming daily for them its ok.. But people like me who register new domain and then optimise.. So for me every visitor comming to my site is very important.. i know its for every one but for domains with reall less traffic its more important.. So if you want to get success with domains with less traffic...then you need to have really good paying keyword domain.. Thats the way to success. and it has worked for me.. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/376027-domain-parking-keyword-optimization-basic-tips.html I register new domains.. optimise my domains and just hope 10 clicks in 1 yr would be more than enough for me.. Coz i know i would make around $15 to $20 from that many clicks and even money when i get $5 to $10 per click... so could take average of $20.. thts pretty good investment atleast for me... So i feel its all depeds on keyword If you have Less traffic @ ur domain. But with yahoo Feeds you could really do even better. coz you have ability to add content, meta tags and lods of additional options which makes your website look like a real one and it increase the chances of visitors visiting your domain would stay more.... And from last few months i have been using this stuff and i have seen a real good improvement in traffic as well as the CTR.. You could make money from parking with less traffic.. or say very less traffic also.. just good optimisation and good keywords would help a lot.. Its just the Game of keywords if you got less traffic domains

10-28-2007, 08:28 PM	#32 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Bodis, Parked, 1Plus, that I've used so far. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

10-31-2007, 12:32 PM	#33 (permalink)
DnPresident Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: At home Posts: 2,026	Good Tip Here's an important tip, it's up to you to figure it out so you can see the maximum benefit... I have found that certain "Maybe all" keywords pay more on certain days of the week. I have found the answers to a couple of them but have a lot more work to do. The reason this is important for me is that I can make adjustments accordingly... Now I have to see if I can find more. __________________ ladder Heaters stock prices vanity receptacle Chronic Heartburn missed miscarriage stock prices

11-05-2007, 12:49 PM	#34 (permalink)
PAULJEFFERY New Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21	yeah, I try to do what Getadd' does - for me keywords in the domain name are very important, I do a fair bit of research. I use the free version of 'web ceo' - you can download it from webceo.com - It not only tells you the most current keywords and their ranking but shows you the top sites that are using those exact keywords. I have also learned that google take a lot of notice of keywords in domain names especially with the adsense. I've had some experiences where I've had a domain name with a word in it that has more than 2 meanings and I get adsense adds automatically generated for the wrong meaning. So that's something else to think about when choosing a name. Also good idea to keep abbreviations and synonyms in mind - I think search engines are paying more attention to synonyms these days than they used to. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027 cheers, Pjay

11-08-2007, 01:06 PM	#35 (permalink)
DnPresident Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: At home Posts: 2,026	Edited Real High paying keywords can pay good but are often terms that have a low Overall daily estimated amount of real searches. The advertisers paying for clicks to this keyword know it's not searched a lot and are really looking for a completed conversion on their end and will often benefit greatly from a true conversion. In addition to the advertiser knowing this fact, Google and Yahoo know as Well. So the outcome = Too many clicks to a high paying keyword will lower your traffic quality score very quickly. __________________ ladder Heaters stock prices vanity receptacle Chronic Heartburn missed miscarriage stock prices Last edited by DnPresident; 09-24-2008 at 11:40 AM. Reason: Fall Clean up

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01-11-2008, 10:44 PM	#37 (permalink)
chassmp3 NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Posts: 35	Hello Everyone, I see there aren't any recent posts, so I'm hoping to revive this thread with my questions. First, I've got my few domains with parked.com, I do use their advanced options which allow me to put in keywords in the meta tags and title tag. What I'm not really understanding is if parked.com pages actually get indexed and if the keywords I'm entering in these areas actually make a difference since there is field named "keyword" where you're only supposed to put one keyword as I just learned. The other question I have is regarding adsense and adwords, am I understanding this correctly? Not all ads displayed with either program pay the same correct? I've used Adsense for a short time and unsuccessfuly, and I know that it pays you when people click on ads they display on your site when you sign up for the program, so are all ads displayed worth the same? But with Adwords I understand that you're buying traffic to redirect to your site or parked site, but there's a lot more to this than what I know isn't there? Because I read stories about how people bid from .05 cents to $1.00 for the clicks that will take people to where they want, but is this only controlled by the amount of bidding or is there something else to this scheme? Obviously if the redirect does not translate into a click or clicks you still get charged the money you bid by google, right? It's good to be google. Last thing, what parking companies pay 5 or 15 dollars a click? I just read this entire thread and I thought I read that somewhere. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027 Thanks Chas.

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soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,285	hiya, i hope this hasn't been covered, but when setting up minisites for 'DIY parking' (with content etc.) - anyone found a way to get yahoo, google or other click ads that say "sponsored listings", like the parked, namedrive etc. all have? i'm trying to avoid the "ads by google" and "ads by yahoo" tags - "sponsored listings" instead goes nicely under the radar. or is that something kept for the big customers - "adsense for demains" and all?

03-12-2008, 01:49 PM	#43 (permalink)
opalxx NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 942	wanna job hi from oz. This is all very interesting as although a newbie i have a few domains parked at pp and parked. I have made many mistakes and have domains which i thought were great but seem to be pretty poor. I am not sure if it is because of me using low traffic keywords or simply because the domain itself is useless. Knowing what the available tools are for optimizing and how to use them is a never ending challenge. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=376027 I think that there is a great job opportunity for someone with the right experience to research, advise and tweak parked names for customers. I certainly would be interested, especially since i am in the bush and my little pc is on dialup of 28kbps and takes half an hour to load a page which by that time i've forgotten why i went there. Sorry if this is a little away from the good advice. Just been thinking about this for a while.

04-16-2008, 03:37 PM	#44 (permalink)
jacksonm NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 130	Q: What is the fastest way to get google to re-index your domain? A: Park it and start getting a boatload of clicks. You will be re-indexed within 2 days max, and bye-bye traffic. They are getting really aggressive now. .

04-16-2008, 03:41 PM	#45 (permalink)
SebastianJu NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 167	I presume you mean de-index = out of google-index... re-index would be the opposite...

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