HighSchool Musical (now on showcase) - Page 2

hawkeye · 08-29-2007, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Jeff you ask the same question on corporate links, and what are 'their plans for mobi', on every found site. You must expect someone to answer to your query, because you keep asking it. So seriously, please tell us, who here do you think has that type of information here for you?? Please!..

Originally Posted by scandiman

It's a tactic to continually and repeatedly call into question everyone and everything related to .mobi. If NBC ran a daily ad for NBC.mobi for the next year the complaint would be the time slot in which it is running. There is no quenching the thirst of a skeptic.

Originally Posted by Jeff

That's simply not true, I'd be happy to see the heavily promoted ad for NBC.mobi ... and I'd ask NBC™ how much money and resources they are committing to its long-term promotion(s), as well (as this infomration, if provided, might be a benefit for those of us here engaged in the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™ ... and, very simply, it doesn't hurt to ask, IMHO).

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-Jeff

and once again, a direct and deserving of an answer question, goes unanswered from the one who expects everyone to answer his 'tired and lame' queries!! No wondering so many have left this forum.

scandiman · 08-29-2007, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

That's simply not true, I'd be happy to see the heavily promoted ad for NBC.mobi ... and I'd ask NBC™ how much money and resources they are committing to its long-term promotion(s), as well (as this infomration, if provided, might be a benefit for those of us here engaged in the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™ ... and, very simply, it doesn't hurt to ask, IMHO).

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-Jeff

Jeff, the point is THEY WON'T TELL YOU THIS so why continually keep asking for/demanding confidential information? Huge news like HSM2.mobi ads is simply huge for .mobi yet you insist on picking at every potential flaw you can find. Redirects, ready scores, non-disclosure of confidential info, you name it you've picked at it...RELENTLESSLY.

Jeff · 08-29-2007, 11:06 AM

How do we know that "they won't tell you this" ... if asked of NBC™ (or Disney™ - or AAA™ - for that matter)? Again, any additional links and information would be a great benefit to those discussing the .MOBI here, IMHO.

Paul, why (IYHO) is there a TV commercial promotion a .MOBI "website" with a Ready.mobi lowly score of "2" ("It will probably display very poorly on a mobile phone." ?!?!

You don't think this is a relevant question (and ensuing discussion)?

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-Jeff

hawkeye · 08-29-2007, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

..why (IYHO) is there a TV commercial promotion a .MOBI "website" with a Ready.mobi lowly score of "2" ("It will probably display very poorly on a mobile phone." ?!?!

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You don't think this is a relevant question (and ensuing discussion)?

If you had a phone with mobile internet service, you'd see it displays, and works quite well! The pics are what gets it a 2, but again they display, and their links work well.

scandiman · 08-29-2007, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

Paul, why (IYHO) is there a TV commercial promotion a .MOBI "website" with a Ready.mobi lowly score of "2" ("It will probably display very poorly on a mobile phone." ?!?!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=366708
You don't think this is a relevant question (and ensuing discussion)?

Actually you are blending two issues inappropriately. They are promoting HSM2.mobi, not their Ready score. The two issues are:

1-Why is there a TV commercial promoting a .MOBI website? Because Disney sees the potential in this new tld and is dedicating resources to pair their HSM2 brand with the brand of .mobi. They want to capitalize on HSM2 as much as possible and they are choosing a .mobi site to do that in the mobile web space. Now my question to you is why do you put quotes around website? Is it not a website? What is wrong with it now?

2- Why does HSM2.mobi have a Ready score of 2? Actually, according to my latest check it scores a 3. The coding problems are detailed at ready.mobi for you to see for yourself. Obviously the folks at Disney are trying to improve things and are learning some new skills. The coding standards are different and mTLD didn't invent the standards, they adopted them from W3C and are supporting their efforts.

DomainMayhem.com · 08-29-2007, 11:44 AM

There is no way to avoid a low score if you have more than a few pics that need to download to the phone, unless a splash page is integrated. I think this is a flaw in the scoring system (they should grade on the size of the pics, not how many).

Jeff · 08-29-2007, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by scandiman

Actually you are blending two issues inappropriately.

I addressed your post above in two separate paragraphs, they weren't intended at all to be blended IMHO.

Quote:

Because Disney sees the potential in this new tld and is dedicating resources to pair their HSM2 brand with the brand of .mobi. They want to capitalize on HSM2 as much as possible and they are choosing a .mobi site to do that in the mobile web space.

Sounds good, if Disney™ were to provide more information regarding their commitment and resources dedicated toward .MOBI - Disney.mobi, for instance - would this not be beneficial for us to know IYHO?

Quote:

[B]The coding problems are detailed at ready.mobi for you to see for yourself. Obviously the folks at Disney are trying to improve things and are learning some new skills. The coding standards are different and mTLD didn't invent the standards, they adopted them from W3C and are supporting their efforts.

Always room for improvement!

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Quote:

Now my question to you is why do you put quotes around website? Is it not a website? What is wrong with it now?

I probably quickly quoted the "website" due to its lowly "2" score on Ready.mobi (as we discussed, the coding problems above), nothing else is wrong with it that I can tell, IMHO. You should have no further rush(es) to judgement, Paul.

Thanks, and enjoy your Labor Day weekend.
-Jeff

dag · 08-29-2007, 11:52 AM

And the fact is, if they're going so far to show the .mobi address in their national television ad and mention it by name, they are committed to some very reasonable extent to promoting their .mobi address! How "long-term" it is will certainly be dependent on response to the site. If there is a flood of traffic to that site now, I'm sure they will be encouraged to keep that site there indefinitely and probably even use .mobi addresses for more of their products. (They own "PlayhouseDisney.mobi," "Disneyland.mobi," "Disney.mobi" and probably many more, so there's plenty of potential there.)

All of this should be very obvious to anyone with any experience in the domain business!

seanboy · 08-29-2007, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by DomainMayhem.com

There is no way to avoid a low score if you have more than a few pics that need to download to the phone, unless a splash page is integrated. I think this is a flaw in the scoring system (they should grade on the size of the pics, not how many).

Or they should take in consideration newer phones, where image size and page size isn't an issue.

scandiman · 08-29-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by seanboy

Or they should take in consideration newer phones, where image size and page size isn't an issue.

Certainly the guidelines can evolve over time but for now WURFL is the way to manage providing richer content to devices that can handle it without alienating other users with less capable devices. Sure it is more work for the developer but it is a problem of accommodating device diversity and the guidelines are currently weighted to the lower end of the spectrum which covers the vast majority of current mobile users. No doubt this will adjust in the future as devices get more capable.

seanboy · 08-29-2007, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by scandiman

Certainly the guidelines can evolve over time but for now WURFL is the way to manage providing richer content to devices that can handle it without alienating other users with less capable devices. Sure it is more work for the developer but it is a problem of accommodating device diversity and the guidelines are currently weighted to the lower end of the spectrum which covers the vast majority of current mobile users. No doubt this will adjust in the future as devices get more capable.

I agree with you Paul, but you already know about my beef with those coding standards. You also know that I like to bitch about it every now and then

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Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,526	How do we know that "they won't tell you this" ... if asked of NBC™ (or Disney™ - or AAA™ - for that matter)? Again, any additional links and information would be a great benefit to those discussing the .MOBI here, IMHO. Paul, why (IYHO) is there a TV commercial promotion a .MOBI "website" with a Ready.mobi lowly score of "2" ("It will probably display very poorly on a mobile phone." ?!?! You don't think this is a relevant question (and ensuing discussion)? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=366708 -Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

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dag Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omm Nom Nom Nom Posts: 3,131	And the fact is, if they're going so far to show the .mobi address in their national television ad and mention it by name, they are committed to some very reasonable extent to promoting their .mobi address! How "long-term" it is will certainly be dependent on response to the site. If there is a flood of traffic to that site now, I'm sure they will be encouraged to keep that site there indefinitely and probably even use .mobi addresses for more of their products. (They own "PlayhouseDisney.mobi," "Disneyland.mobi," "Disney.mobi" and probably many more, so there's plenty of potential there.) All of this should be very obvious to anyone with any experience in the domain business! __________________ V-C-R.com C-P-R.com i-Netbooks.com

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