Zagat.mobi gets major press review - Page 3

-REECE- · 08-24-2007, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

maybe it's your phone, because it works on mine! And quite well too.

I don't know ... mtld is a joke, basic compliance is a joke, their rfp is a joke, their whole marketing strategies are a joke.... Weird.., why some just keep wasting their time and energy complaining and ridiculing about something they just don't like, or believe in their abilities to make happen, but keep buying their products and saying they are a supporter of that product. And should that product become successful in the big marketplace, will come a proudly touting how they were an early supporter of it all along.

I could say the same to you... Weird why you waste all your time defending .mobi when the names in your sig add up to a grand total of maybe $500. You'd have more than that by now if you just got a job at McD (no offence intended if anyone works there).
As has been said in the LLLL.com thread -- another place where glasses are worn and skeptics are born, if you really believed in this extension, why wouldn't you have invested at least XX,XXX into it? If it's such a sure thing, why not put a reverse mortgage on your house, use your car as collateral on a loan, etc?
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Ever heard of a company called Microsoft? How many people don't like their products but have to use them anyway? Really hard getting work done on a Mac that's totally incompatible with the office.

Anyway the point of this thread was not my POV, nor yours. The point of this thread was to announce that Zagat.mobi is receiving positive press and that's a good thing for anyone who has money in the extension and/or believes in it's future potential.

Originally Posted by garrett200

You'll never believe this, but I found out about and started researching .mobi because I thought it sounded cool. And it does!

Sure does

And while people might not initially associate mobi with mobile, I haven't had much trouble getting friends and family members to see the connection -- it's like a "mobile shorthand"

hawkeye · 08-24-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

I could say the same to you... Weird why you waste all your time defending .mobi when the names in your sig add up to a grand total of maybe $500.

Let's see, 3 mobi's into $500 equals $166.00 each, investment was $86 for all, which is a $414 profit in well less than a years time,.... not a bad ROI I don't think. And your profit is...????... Yeah, you're right, let's get back to the subject at hand..

-REECE- · 08-24-2007, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Let's see, 3 mobi's into $500 equals $166.00 each, investment was $86 for all, which is a $414 profit in well less than a years time,.... not a bad ROI I don't think. And your profit is...????... Yeah, you're right, let's get back to the subject at hand..

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Once again, if all you have is 3 names... Funny you make fun of Jeff and his ".mobi stake"

Pretty much everyone else who strongly defends .mobi has at least 10-fold the investment you have (making it worth spending their time here). As for me, of the names I plan on reselling for sure (only 2 LLL.mobi names), I've probably made about the same profit as you. Not sure if I hold the title of most spent on .mobis by a somewhat skeptic, but
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I must rank up there

And no worries, I won't take any kudos if .mobi rocks the socks off .com 5 years from now. I'll be happy just like everyone else that I made a nice ROI (as you have so far).

hawkeye · 08-24-2007, 07:02 PM

I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were supposed to list our whole portfolio in our sig. Luckily for me I have only 170 or so, and not the 400+ ones that some have, that may take up too much space.

GeoOwners · 08-24-2007, 07:06 PM

ding...chill out guys ... you both for the most part are into .mobi...

I disagree with the valuation comment...MalibuCalifornia.mobi is a great name to work with and could be made into a super site...imho

garrett200 · 08-24-2007, 07:31 PM

Oh god, here we go again. Can't we all just get along?

namewaiter · 08-24-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were supposed to list our whole portfolio in our sig. Luckily for me I have only 170 or so, and not the 400+ ones that some have, that may take up too much space.

170 ... no soup for you! next
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actually, i only have 100 or so, guess i need to limit my .mobi support here at np too.

reece, some of us post here just to help keep the balance - there are people on these boards that place outrageous demands and expectations on mtld and the extension's life cycle

-REECE- · 08-24-2007, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by namewaiter

170 ... no soup for you! next

actually, i only have 100 or so, guess i need to limit my .mobi support here at np too.

reece, some of us post here just to help keep the balance - there are people on these boards that place outrageous demands and expectations on mtld and the extension's life cycle

I wasn't trying to single people out that had for example less regs than me or some predefined number, merely suggesting that Jeff has received a lot of unwarranted criticism for his limited stake (and excessive time commitment) in the extension and that had he been a .mobi optimist rather than skeptic, he likely would not have.

Do people on this board place unrealistic expectations? Sure. So does Wall Street -- sometimes. But this isn't the .tv forum. Being negative about .mobi is not against the rules and IMO, being 100% positive about .mobi at all times is not reflective of reality. Some of the biggest movers and shakers are pessimists by their very nature. Others are contraires.

There are certainly reasons to be positive about .mobi... We have a whole pile of huge companies that have developed .mobis, we have .mobi names that have sold for huge amounts of money, and we have more and more developed sites everyday.

However, there are also reasons one could be pessimistic about .mobi... The RFP's are dragging on and on. There is uncertainty about the future of all reserved names held by mtld. Mtld has a history of making hasty decision and changing their mind, etc.

This isn't intended to bash or give praise to .mobi... It's just a fact of life.
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Microsoft giving free software to people in third world countries could be viewed as doing something nice for poor people -- or -- an attempt to counter the rampant piracy these countries experience due to not being able to afford legal ones.

Is either way of viewing it explicitly wrong?

The thing I like most about the .mobi forum here at NP is that everyone is allowed to express their opinion. They need not fear getting banned for disagreeing -- they shouldn't fear being ridiculed for disagreeing either. Many of you (myself included) are members of Mobility, the forum many more skeptic members have referred to as "mobi happy forum" or "mobilover forum" in PMs and emails to me. There's nothing wrong with that. When I go there, I keep my comments positive.

But this isn't mobility and there is no requirement of being a "mobilover" here.

Anything that adds substance to the discussion should be welcomed -- good or bad. If someone is worried about what will happen to the RFPs, they should be allowed to discuss it. That's what makes NP the #1 .mobi forum IMO.

Because real winners win by analyzing their flaws and correcting them, not by pretending they don't exist.

hawkeye · 08-24-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

I wasn't trying to single people out that had for example less regs than me or some predefined number,(?!?) merely suggesting that Jeff has received a lot of unwarranted criticism for his limited stake (and excessive time commitment) in the extension and that had he been a .mobi optimist rather than skeptic, he likely would not have.

Unwarranted? Whoa, let's be clear here. (And this not to jump on Jeff, but you brought it up.) Jeff is not singled out because he is a skeptic, or has only a few names. There is, and has been, other skeptics etc. with no or small collections here, and they are not criticized as such. Jeff gets rided because 85-90% of his posts/replies say the exact same thing over and over and over, no matter what or who states the flaws or counterpoints to his posts. Never anything else different, it's the same ole tired and over-used posts and responses for the last 8+ months. It's like a candle that won't go out in a hurricane!! Nothing new or enlightening!! And that is the facts. He single handedly has driven many from here. (though I'm beginning to wonder if maybe that is the point.)

seanboy · 08-24-2007, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

if you really believed in this extension, why wouldn't you have invested at least XX,XXX into it? If it's such a sure thing, why not put a reverse mortgage on your house, use your car as collateral on a loan, etc?

First of all, many people don't have XX,XXX sitting around to invest in ANYTHING, no matter how much they believe in something. Is that really your arguing point? PLEASE. I've believed in this extension long before it came out, and I don't have nearly that much to invest in it. If I had that kind of cash on me, I'd would probably be 1) Paying off my student loans, 2) paying off my car loan, 3) Putting a down payment on a house, 4) paying for other important sh%# that I need to live, 5) etc, 6) etc., 7)etc...
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Just because I didn't happen to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on .mobi doesn't mean that I don't believe in it. The fact that you even begin to imply that one doesn't believe in it because of that is pure BS.

Is that REALLY your arguement?

Sorry, but your comment was completely unfair and it pissed me off....

GeoOwners · 08-24-2007, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Unwarranted? Whoa, let's be clear here. (And this not to jump on Jeff, but you brought it up.) Jeff is not singled out because he is a skeptic, or has only a few names. There is, and has been, other skeptics etc. with no or small collections here, and they are not criticized as such. Jeff gets rided because 85-90% of his posts/replies say the exact same thing over and over and over, no matter what or who states the flaws or counterpoints to his posts. Never anything else different, it's the same ole tired and over-used posts and responses for the last 8+ months. It's like a candle that won't go out in a hurricane!! Nothing new or enlightening!! And that is the facts. He single handedly has driven many from here. (though I'm beginning to wonder if maybe that is the point.)

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squawk...90% 90%...rauuuuk

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dag · 08-25-2007, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

The thing I like most about the .mobi forum here at NP is that everyone is allowed to express their opinion. They need not fear getting banned for disagreeing -- they shouldn't fear being ridiculed for disagreeing either. Many of you (myself included) are members of Mobility, the forum many more skeptic members have referred to as "mobi happy forum" or "mobilover forum" in PMs and emails to me. There's nothing wrong with that. When I go there, I keep my comments positive.
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But this isn't mobility and there is no requirement of being a "mobilover" here.

Reece, if you seriously think that you'd get banned at Mobility for voicing a negative opinion, you clearly haven't really paid any attention over there. There has only been one person banned there so far, and that had nothing to do with their opinions. There's no "mobi-lover" requirement in the least. We're there to get things done to move the extension forward, not to debate it, so as a result, a huge majority of the people there are positive about .mobi.

If you enjoy the incessant and tiring debate that goes on here, and if you think that makes this a great place for advancing .mobi in the mobile marketplace and helping .mobi investors, more power to you.

namewaiter · 08-25-2007, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Unwarranted? Whoa, let's be clear here. (And this not to jump on Jeff, but you brought it up.) Jeff is not singled out because he is a skeptic, or has only a few names. There is, and has been, other skeptics etc. with no or small collections here, and they are not criticized as such. Jeff gets rided because 85-90% of his posts/replies say the exact same thing over and over and over, no matter what or who states the flaws or counterpoints to his posts. Never anything else different, it's the same ole tired and over-used posts and responses for the last 8+ months. It's like a candle that won't go out in a hurricane!! Nothing new or enlightening!! And that is the facts. He single handedly has driven many from here. (though I'm beginning to wonder if maybe that is the point.)

hammer. head. nail. (trademark insignia here)

PVFARKAS · 08-25-2007, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

Jeff has received a lot of unwarranted criticism for his limited stake (and excessive time commitment) in the extension and that had he been a .mobi optimist rather than skeptic, he likely would not have.

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i think its warranted as it often includes dampening news announcements and putting a negative spin on just about everything. often models somehow get away being more snooty than plain looking women, here if you are in the top 10 posters and consistently start flame wars and have a negative attitude, it would certainly help to demonstrate why the extension and success will affect your investment. that's just my opinion-a-doodle

Originally Posted by Reece

But this isn't mobility and there is no requirement of being a "mobilover" here.

you cant really beat free love and productivity. mobiloving is irrelevant. we're talking about big inventory and big market share. Mobility stands for ideas, inventory, harmony, rapport, trust and networking - all huge in the business world - and that's bar none the place to be.

coast · 08-25-2007, 08:43 AM

Wow, this takes a lot of energy just reading this. I left the post for a day or two, and instead of talking about how zagat.mobi works or doesn't work, it's all annoyed people again. Sheesh.

sf2010 · 08-25-2007, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by coast

Wow, this takes a lot of energy just reading this. I left the post for a day or two, and instead of talking about how zagat.mobi works or doesn't work, it's all annoyed people again. Sheesh.

agreed.

why don't we lock up this thread since everyone is talking about everything BUT zagat.mobi

and for the 10^1000 times, if you don't like someone's post, don't respond to it and move on or ignore it. if you are making fun of someone because of that person's "incessant" views/comments, how are you any better?
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I am in this forum to learn and make some money, not join in on the daily soap opera orgy

GeoOwners · 08-25-2007, 10:18 AM

Lock...Key...Click

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DomainMayhem.com · 08-25-2007, 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=garrett200]See, I think what is happening here is that corps are realizing the branding potential of .mobi.

zagat.mobi just sounds cool, and it's clean and tells you exactly what it is.

zagat.com/mobile just doesn't have the same ring to it.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention that there has to be uniformity for the mobile web to work. m/whatever, whatever.com/mobile, etc. is too much for the general public to remember. In the end, there will be only one mobile ext. It just makes sense.

allnicksgone · 11-30-2007, 03:40 PM

Zagat.mobi got mentioned again in today's print edition of USA Today.

Quote:

Having conquered the domestic market with its dark-red restaurant guides during the past two decades, Zagat continues to widen its coverage here and abroad, using its trademark populist survey approach. This summer, the company launched Zagat.mobi, a website that makes dining and travel content viewable on smart phones and other mobile devices. A redesigned Zagat.com site with improved mapping technology is scheduled to make its debut in December.

PVFARKAS · 11-30-2007, 04:40 PM

nice! this thread was about zagat?!?

tophatter · 11-30-2007, 06:05 PM

Did it say Zagat .mobi or Zagat.com/mobile ???

allnicksgone · 11-30-2007, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by tophatter

Did it say Zagat .mobi or Zagat.com/mobile ???

It said Zagat.mobi

tophatter · 11-30-2007, 06:19 PM

Than that's a Positive +++

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hawkeye Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hollyweird Posts: 2,570	I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were supposed to list our whole portfolio in our sig. Luckily for me I have only 170 or so, and not the 400+ ones that some have, that may take up too much space. __________________ FixedPriceDomains.com "Dream, Believe, Achieve!"

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DomainMayhem.com Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,122	[QUOTE=garrett200]See, I think what is happening here is that corps are realizing the branding potential of .mobi. zagat.mobi just sounds cool, and it's clean and tells you exactly what it is. zagat.com/mobile just doesn't have the same ring to it.[/QUOTE] Not to mention that there has to be uniformity for the mobile web to work. m/whatever, whatever.com/mobile, etc. is too much for the general public to remember. In the end, there will be only one mobile ext. It just makes sense. __________________ DomainMayhem.com, Witches.tv, Ecos.tv, Cued.tv, Stained.tv, eVet.tv, Begins.tv, 5Year.com, Infor.ms, Rant.in, Ferns.tv, Stra.in, Seru.ms, Mistletoe.tv, AuctionsOn.tv, PublicityOn.tv, Ghouls.tv

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tophatter NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 556	Did it say Zagat .mobi or Zagat.com/mobile ???

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