money is money.

gou · 08-23-2007, 09:20 PM

Here, let me try the art of cherry picking as well.

Debit.com -

for $100,000

Status is PARKED

Forest.com - reported for $110,721

PARKED IMHO

Pottery.com - went for $150,000

It's PARKED

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/364835-recent-mobi-sales.html

This must be .com isn't doing well at all.

See you later

hawkeye · 08-23-2007, 09:26 PM

Not even worth reading.

Originally Posted by Reece

**DISCLAIMER** THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A WORST CASE SCENARIO -- SHOULD MTLD INTENTIONALLY MAKE MOST OF THESE PREMIUMS "DOMAINER PROPERTY". BECAUSE WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THIS AT THIS TIME, THIS IS TO BE TAKEN AS PURELY CONJECTURE. LET US ALL HOPE MTLD IS AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES (ELUCIDATED BELOW) OF A "WORST CASE SCENARIO" SITUATION.

Should these 500 or whatever amount of names be released simultaneously... This poses potential serious problems in the .mobi aftermarket should these names all (or mostly all) go to domainers. And before you argue with that point, I've brought it up in the past and it's been agreed with by even those wearing their pink glasses...

Let's elucidate this so that even those with pink glasses so thick they can't see through can see the point I'm trying to make here...

500 names sold ~ to domainers. Domainer A, B, C, ..., X,Y,Z,..., AA, AB, AC,..., SD, SE, SF. Let's pretend those abbreviations represent the domainers in question. This is assuming mtld has more sense than they perhaps do and imposes a limit on the amount of names a person can own to 1 auctioned domain.

So...

Domainer A tries to sell Sex.mobi for $1 mm. Domainer B is the proud owner of Porn.mobi. He decides to undercut the owner of Sex.mobi and list his for sale at $900k. This kind of behavior continues because nobody is interested in paying such high prices for .mobis.

So... They keep undercutting each other until they get to just above the prices paid at auction for these names -- say, around 400k. BUT and it's a BIG one... The market has taken a turn for the worst as of late. With a dozen premium adult names all up for sale simultaneously and mtld promising another 500 names being released shortly therafter, domainers are trying to sell these names to endusers... badly. Supply keeps on going up and up as mtld floods the market with more and more premiums, determined to milk as much money out of the extension before the Bubble bursts. Domainers begin undercutting each other and even themselves (the irony!) in an attempt to get these names sold, even accepting losses over what they paid for them. The mobile web is rapidly gaining steam... but with so many names to choose from, endusers just can't make up their mind and decide to settle for the cheaper ones, or wait until the market reaches a trough or at least some degree of stability.

Those wearing pink glasses decide to get a stronger (thicker) prescription, because clearly everything happening on the outside is not registering on the inside. In the end, people point the finger at mtld like Reece said all along

Those who hyped up the extension and invested during the landrush make huge profits... Intelligently selling just before the peak rapidly takes a turn for the worst. Those who plan to develop their names will do well. The .mobi extension indexes well in Google. But those who came here in March, April,... with the idea that .mobi would make them rich for doing no work but just regging a few names... These are the big losers here. These are the ones who're going to pay the price for mtld's actions.

scandiman · 08-23-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by namewaiter

jeff, you're so transparent and too funny ... oh the anticipation to see what your next gripe or sticking point will be.

i'm thinking someone needs to start giving odds out.

Isn't it obvious, the font on the bofa.mobi poster was not bold enough.

Jeff · 08-23-2007, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by gou

This must be .com isn't doing well at all.

We're discussing .MOBI recent sales, and, more imprtantly, the .MOBI "ecosystem" ... in fact, "ecosystem" was used by mTLD and its importance having never been related as closely with any other extension (and its future) UNTIL .MOBI, IMHO.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

Quote:

See you later

See you later.
-Jeff

hawkeye · 08-23-2007, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

We're discussing .MOBI recent sales, and, more imprtantly, the .MOBI "ecosystem" ... in fact, "ecosystem" was used by mTLD and its importance having never been related as closely with any other extension (and its future) UNTIL .MOBI, IMHO.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

See you later.
-Jeff

"aaarrkk!"

acc · 08-23-2007, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

"aaarrkk!"

LOL - Thank you. Perfect application.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

"budgie budgie budgie"

namewaiter · 08-24-2007, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

"aaarrkk!"

the only thing it's missing is a smilie or two

Jeff · 08-24-2007, 09:31 AM

^ Thanks, I'm looking forward to upcoming Jimmy Buffett show (and party) ...

Moving along now with the enjoyable and informative "recent sales" discussion ...

Pizza.mobi reported sale $21,000

Registrant Name: Moniker Privacy Services
Registrant Organization: Moniker Privacy Services

Name Server:NS2.FREEREDIRECTION.NET
Name Server:NS1.FREEREDIRECTION.NET

Link: http://www.ndparking.com/pizza.mobi

Quote:

You also need to know how to build mobile content or you will not be an eligible buyer.

Please share your humble thoughts.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835
-Jeff

hawkeye · 08-24-2007, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

^ Thanks, I'm looking forward to upcoming Jimmy Buffett show (and party) ...

Moving along now with the enjoyable and informative "recent sales" discussion ...

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

Pizza.mobi reported sale $21,000

Registrant Name: Moniker Privacy Services
Registrant Organization: Moniker Privacy Services

Name Server:NS2.FREEREDIRECTION.NET
Name Server:NS1.FREEREDIRECTION.NET

Link: http://www.ndparking.com/pizza.mobi

Please share your humble thoughts.
-Jeff

Think it's (humbly) great!

mjnels · 08-24-2007, 10:48 AM

sounds dan-diddly-dandy to me.

Jeff · 08-24-2007, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Think it's (humbly) great!

Originally Posted by mjnels

sounds dan-diddly-dandy to me.

You two fellas are content (if not, joyous) with undeveloped .MOBI domain names that have been reported as sold ... and in a larger sense, the present status of the critical "ecosystem"?!?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

Thanks for the clarification.
-Jeff

hawkeye · 08-24-2007, 12:33 PM

mjnels · 08-24-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

You two fellas are content (if not, joyous) with undeveloped .MOBI domain names that have been reported as sold ... and in a larger sense, the present status of the critical "ecosystem"?!?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

Thanks for the clarification.
-Jeff

yes.

that is correct.

money is money.

Jeff · 08-24-2007, 12:48 PM

So just as long as your resales of your undeveloped .MOBI's are good, you're both happy and Rosey?

-Jeff

mjnels · 08-24-2007, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

So just as long as your resales of your undeveloped .MOBI's are good, you're both happy and Rosey?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

-Jeff

YES!

of course it is best to look at the big picture, and the imho ecosystem etc.. but at the very base level of things, undeveloped mobi's have resale value too..

and i hate to break this too everyone but: im in this for the money.

again, that doesnt mean i dont see the big picture... i just am not overreacting.. im watching

Jeff · 08-24-2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by mjnels

YES!

of course it is best to look at the big picture, and the imho ecosystem etc.. but at the very base level of things, undeveloped mobi's have resale value too..

and i hate to break this too everyone but: im in this for the money.

again, that doesnt mean i dont see the big picture... i just am not overreacting.. im watching

Thank you for the clarification!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835
-Jeff

namewaiter · 08-24-2007, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

So just as long as your resales of your undeveloped .MOBI's are good, you're both happy and Rosey?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

-Jeff

resales are as much a part of the so called 'ecosystem' as anything else, ie. new regs, development, etc..

Jeff · 08-24-2007, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by namewaiter

resales are as much a part of the so called 'ecosystem' as anything else, ie. new regs, development, etc..

I am referring to a developed "ecosystem", IMHO.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

Thanks.
-Jeff

-REECE- · 08-24-2007, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by namewaiter

resales are as much a part of the so called 'ecosystem' as anything else, ie. new regs, development, etc..

hardly.

.com isn't what it is because of resales. Traffic is what drives real value...

garrett200 · 08-24-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

Traffic is what drives real value...

True, and based on the traffic my domains have been getting, their value is going up. I don't know about anyone else, but my traffic has literally doubled or tripled every month.

namewaiter · 08-24-2007, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

hardly.

.com isn't what it is because of resales. Traffic is what drives real value...

totally not true, acclaimed sales such as business.com, engineering.org & forsalebyowner.com exposed a whole new group of people to domains and changed the landscape of domaining
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

think resale isn't a part of the housing, auto or stock markets (ecosystems)?

connections · 08-29-2007, 05:56 AM

CRM.mobi $3,733

Welt.mobi
("world" in German) €2,000 = $2,721

SexyBody.mobi $2,500

euro2012.mobi $1,250

more sales data

mjnels · 08-29-2007, 06:35 AM

lets use my thread for this so i can remain special:

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/257...-landrush.html

-REECE- · 08-29-2007, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by mjnels

lets use my thread for this so i can remain special:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=364835

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/257...-landrush.html

You'll always be special

Agreed though... We really don't need two threads for the same thing and it just might cause people to not be aware of certain sales that did occur.

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gou NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 711	Here, let me try the art of cherry picking as well. Debit.com - for $100,000 Status is PARKED Forest.com - reported for $110,721 PARKED IMHO Pottery.com - went for $150,000 It's PARKED ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/364835-recent-mobi-sales.html This must be .com isn't doing well at all. See you later __________________ I

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mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,181	sounds dan-diddly-dandy to me.

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connections NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 284 Follow @connections8	CRM.mobi $3,733 Welt.mobi ("world" in German) €2,000 = $2,721 SexyBody.mobi $2,500 euro2012.mobi $1,250 more sales data

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