[filter]

lately eBay has been okay ... but it's not always a sure thing to get a good price there (or in any auction, NP certainly included).

Also, when selling on eBay remember to subtract about 5% from the final price + another dollar or so for the listing fee ... and that's on top of PayPal's cut. So the amount of cash actually ending up in your account is ... well, when it's good, it's still pretty good!

[TomB]

Yeah those ebay fees add up. I'm always kinda shocked at the end of the month..."I sold that much in domains on ebay, where did all the money go?"

[D-K]

Anyone going for OCNO.COM on sedo current bid $210 wondering what it will go for all prem letters

[mwzd]

I went upto 180 for ocno... too rich for me now.

[rjs_essex]

Originally Posted by Jack.Whisky

Anyone going for OCNO.COM on sedo current bid $210 wondering what it will go for all prem letters

Its a pronouncable VCCV combination with all premium letters, + an 'O' at the end I wouldn't be surprised if this reaches $500-$600+ considering Sedo is the marketplace. Its a very nice LLLL.com!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/358387-the-llll-com-sales-discussion-thread.html

I just noticed MOSF.com sold for $80 on DS on the 10th!!!!

I must check the smaller forums more often!

Rich

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by rjs_essex

Its a pronouncable VCCV combination with all premium letters, + an 'O' at the end I wouldn't be surprised if this reaches $500-$600+ considering Sedo is the marketplace. Its a very nice LLLL.com! ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 I just noticed MOSF.com sold for $80 on DS on the 10th!!!! I must check the smaller forums more often! Rich

you joking? what`s DS?

Cheers

[Alex]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

you joking? what`s DS? Cheers

DomainState

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by Alex

DomainState

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387


thanks....sorry guys I better go...I got an urgent thing to do...

(gone to register at DS )

[bricio]

Originally Posted by rjs_essex

I just noticed MOSF.com sold for $80 on DS on the 10th!!!! I must check the smaller forums more often!

that thing all of us know: the buyer was in the right place at the right time... DS has many members that are members here and are aware of what is happening with LLLL.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

it will be very difficult to find such steal again... he/she sold a $x,xxx name for $80; it is the same you sell a LLL.com for $1,000 or $2,000

[Netizen]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

thanks....sorry guys I better go...I got an urgent thing to do... (gone to register at DS )

LOLzzz , Drive slow man and FYI its very close to SEDO street, 5 minuts by car

[slobizman]

Originally Posted by thetruman

Hi goodkarmaco, I would disagree this time. New people is constantly entering in the LLLL market. 4L got extremly liquid ; they will not drop value. Never more. 4 hundred thousand plus is not an issue. Many companies, and individuals have or will get their LLLL. Being sold out they are collectibles now. Do you need a stamp of the 60 s? Surely you don t but being a collectible (you cant produce an original anymore) will keep the value. In the long run prices might go up and down, but value will always grow.

You're dreaming.

Never. Always. I've been a stock market investor for 25 years. I've heard it before. These crap names like JQYX.com or something remind me of the tiny no-earnings tech stocks of 1999-2000. Speculation sent them up. Reality shot them down. Those who invested in solid companies did fine over the long haul. Those who picked the penny stocks or the "cool" small tech companies got burned.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

A bubble is a bubble is a bubble. Read up on the Dutch tulips and other bubble if you don't think they are all the same. Here's a bit from Wikipedia on tulips:

In 1623, a single bulb of a famous tulip variety could cost as much as a thousand Dutch florins (the average yearly income at the time was 150 florins). Tulips were also exchanged for land, valuable livestock, and houses. Allegedly, a good trader could earn six thousand florins a month.

By 1635, a sale of 40 bulbs for 100,000 florins was recorded. By way of comparison, a ton of butter cost around 100 florins and "eight fat swine" 240 florins. A record was the sale of the most famous bulb, the Semper Augustus, for 6,000 florins in Haarlem.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

By 1636, tulips were traded on the stock exchanges of numerous Dutch towns and cities. This encouraged trading in tulips by all members of society, with many people selling or trading their other possessions in order to speculate in the tulip market. Some speculators made large profits as a result. Others lost all or even more than they had.

Some traders sold tulip bulbs that had only just been planted or those they intended to plant (in effect, tulip futures contracts). This phenomenon was dubbed windhandel, or "wind trade", and took place mostly in the taverns of small towns using an arcane slate system to indicate bid prices. (The term windhandel is similar to the recent term vaporware: both have much the same metaphor.) A state edict from 1610 (well before the alleged bubble) made that trade illegal by refusing to enforce the contracts, but the legislation failed to curtail the activity.

In February 1637 tulip traders could no longer get inflated prices for their bulbs, and they began to sell. The bubble burst. People began to suspect that the demand for tulips could not last, and as this spread a panic developed. Some were left holding contracts to purchase tulips at prices now ten times greater than those on the open market, while others found themselves in possession of bulbs now worth a fraction of the price they had paid. Allegedly, thousands of Dutch, including businessmen and dignitaries, were financially ruined.

Attempts were made to resolve the situation to the satisfaction of all parties, but these were unsuccessful. Ultimately, individuals were stuck with the bulbs they held at the end of the crash—no court would enforce payment of a contract, since judges regarded the debts as contracted through gambling, and thus not enforceable in law.

The aftermath of the tulip price deflation led to a widespread economic chill throughout the Netherlands for a number of years afterwards, resulting in what we would describe today as a mild or moderate economic depression. (Galbraith 1990, p. 34)

[raredn.com]

People who have said on here domain names can not be compared to the stock market are right. Good domain names are more like rare comic books with an element of shares and options thrown in. Since when were shares collectible??? Never right, so don't compare them!

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by slobizman

You're dreaming. Never. Always. I've been a stock market investor for 25 years. I've heard it before. These crap names like JQYX.com or something remind me of the tiny no-earnings tech stocks of 1999-2000. Speculation sent them up. Reality shot them down. Those who invested in solid companies did fine over the long haul. Those who picked the penny stocks or the "cool" small tech companies got burned. A bubble is a bubble is a bubble. Read up on the Dutch tulips and other bubble if you don't think they are all the same. Here's a bit from Wikipedia on tulips: In 1623, a single bulb of a famous tulip variety could cost as much as a thousand Dutch florins (the average yearly income at the time was 150 florins). Tulips were also exchanged for land, valuable livestock, and houses. Allegedly, a good trader could earn six thousand florins a month. By 1635, a sale of 40 bulbs for 100,000 florins was recorded. By way of comparison, a ton of butter cost around 100 florins and "eight fat swine" 240 florins. A record was the sale of the most famous bulb, the Semper Augustus, for 6,000 florins in Haarlem. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 By 1636, tulips were traded on the stock exchanges of numerous Dutch towns and cities. This encouraged trading in tulips by all members of society, with many people selling or trading their other possessions in order to speculate in the tulip market. Some speculators made large profits as a result. Others lost all or even more than they had. Some traders sold tulip bulbs that had only just been planted or those they intended to plant (in effect, tulip futures contracts). This phenomenon was dubbed windhandel, or "wind trade", and took place mostly in the taverns of small towns using an arcane slate system to indicate bid prices. (The term windhandel is similar to the recent term vaporware: both have much the same metaphor.) A state edict from 1610 (well before the alleged bubble) made that trade illegal by refusing to enforce the contracts, but the legislation failed to curtail the activity. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 In February 1637 tulip traders could no longer get inflated prices for their bulbs, and they began to sell. The bubble burst. People began to suspect that the demand for tulips could not last, and as this spread a panic developed. Some were left holding contracts to purchase tulips at prices now ten times greater than those on the open market, while others found themselves in possession of bulbs now worth a fraction of the price they had paid. Allegedly, thousands of Dutch, including businessmen and dignitaries, were financially ruined. Attempts were made to resolve the situation to the satisfaction of all parties, but these were unsuccessful. Ultimately, individuals were stuck with the bulbs they held at the end of the crash—no court would enforce payment of a contract, since judges regarded the debts as contracted through gambling, and thus not enforceable in law. The aftermath of the tulip price deflation led to a widespread economic chill throughout the Netherlands for a number of years afterwards, resulting in what we would describe today as a mild or moderate economic depression. (Galbraith 1990, p. 34)

Yes...sure, how about the internet penetration being at 18 % now?

[raredn.com]

Seriously though, are shares or options collectible, the answer is no, so don't compare them, simple. Its like comparing a cat with a frog because they both have four legs

[italiandragon]

Originally Posted by raredn.com

People who have said on here domain names can not be compared to the stock market are right. Good domain names are more like rare comic books with an element of shares and options thrown in. Since when were shares collectible??? Never right, so don't compare them!

EXACTLY!

I have been a financial advisor in Italy for several years and I know what happened in the .com Bubble between 1999 and 2000.

Shares can be issued many times, split , aggregated ,etc. , you can`t get more of short domains....otherwise just give me a LL.com please, one that has no traffic....what`s the point in having it....it`s worthless right?

[raredn.com]

Sensible Reasoning has now cast friendly light over the shadows of baseless doom : )

[thetruman]

Originally Posted by raredn.com

Seriously though, are shares or options collectible, the answer is no, so don't compare them, simple. Its like comparing a cat with a frog because they both have four legs

Same things I was thinking..

[rjs_essex]

Exactly - and why use the tulip story as basis for a market crash? Tulips can and will be in endless supply. You can always grow more. Can you do this with four letter domains? Of course not!

Rich

[raredn.com]

one tulip looks the same as the other, until you see a tulip with four petals on it, then your on to a winner!

oops, sorry, that's supposed to be a clover with four leaves on it! or perhaps a domain name with four LLLL's in it : )



I've never had a problem with domains with four LLLL's in them before the buyout, why should I have a problem with domains names with four LLLL's in them after the buyout?

[invincible55]

heyj.com was sold for 5000 usd. I saw it on Sedo a few minutes ago

[randomo]

Sales report - I just sold 10 2-premium, one-Q LLLL.com's for $350 total (privately, to someone who saw me offer them on a domain forum).

[buckshotdots]

Crazy day at snap, was at the final round in a poker tourney and missed the ending of one (lost to someone on here) oh well...

kelg.com $479
mmmg.com $3,960.00
rigf.com $250.00

g-

[duceman]

Originally Posted by buckshotdots

Crazy day at snap, was at the final round in a poker tourney and missed the ending of one (lost to someone on here) oh well... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 kelg.com $479 mmmg.com $3,960.00 rigf.com $250.00 g-

I wonder if that one was picked up by Campbell's soup ..... MMMM Good

[goodkarmaco]

Slobizman,

really that is a very good anology and of course those who are caught up in this buying frenzy will not see it.

I am a professional greenhouse grower and have owned garden centers and greenhouses for over 35 years. I know the tulip story very well. I thought about posting it before you did, but I thought I would only end up with doubt like you did here.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

Oh well its all up to the individual and in the end we will see won't we?

I have seen many bubbles in the plant business, one was in the tropical house plant craze of the early seventies. Hardly any greenhouses grew them but all of a sudden consumers wanted house plants. Since that is all I grew my business exploded and I became a pretty large wholesaler overnight. That lasted about three or four years. Other greenhouses got on the bandwagon all of a sudden tropical plants flooded the market.

Only difference I suppose with the domain LLLL and plants is " we can't make anymore LLLL.

The exception to that reasoning folks is the underlining value of domains. What makes a name valuble? The same as a plant boom.... customer demand!

When its all said and done and domainers push LLLL thru the roof for flipping, who will buy these names?.

I have said it before, what makes a name valuble is only one thing.. the end user, ( traffic is too). Ask yourself before you buy a LLLL that is not prouncable or is not a acroynm for a large segment of industry, what market does this name represent.

If it has a very small footprint, the name will plumment in value.

Real estate can be looked at in the same light. Many can say, well they only have so many houses so they will continue to go up like they have in the last few years, lol. The real estate bubble has burst. Many banks will go into foreclose as they over loaned. Market analyists are saying we have a glut of new homes and as the economy is crashing because of over building and bank foreclosures from lending into this market that house values will plumment up to 50%!

Another thing to think about the world economy is taking a big hit. As the dominos effect percolates thru the world money will be more difficult to make. Those who bought up names like xquz will wonder why the hell they ever paid more than $15.00 for them.

Doesn't matter if they make no more LLLL, only the LLLL that have a strong market represented or if they stand for some big business or if they are prouncable will grow in value. All the others will not be a asset to own.

What I m saying is quality is everything.

[mwzd]

tdnam sales -
ytbt.com $105
vpnh.cm $90

The revolution is on you gentlemen.

Wake up and smell the roses... or was that tulips?