[Nem0]

Originally Posted by Asmro

Yeah Nem0, thanks - And I was watching VMLM because I was actually thinking on investing in it and making a nice site out of it, like vMLM. But it got a little to expensive about it. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/358387-the-llll-com-sales-discussion-thread.html And yes, it was me, not my business partner debating with you You did really make me rethink LLLL.com's. I can't wait to see what happens with 'em. My personal opinion is that every LLLL.com investor shouldn't flood LLLL.com's on the forums for sale, and that the rarer the better, so the less LLLL.com's on eBay and stuff like that, the better. Of course it's not a perfect world and we can't all cooperate, but I think thats the main thing that LLLL.com investors need to do to keep the market going

I agree. Forums or eBay. Anyone can see that on the days that I post 40 sales or 90+ sales on eBay, the prices always come out really low.

Would be better to wait for the market to really rebound (if it does) and then flood the market with them ... right now while it is struggling to regain its feet is surely not the best time if we want things to improve. I'll still throw out my couple/few per day.

[Chef Patrick]

Originally Posted by Asmro

Also, congrats to Chef on his XODA.com sale That was quite the domain!

Ummm Asmro, I lost money on the sale. Please read the posts when you make a comment, now I have to go

[Asmro]

Chef, even though you lost money, a sale is a sale. Every cent you can get in this economy is great So thats why I was congratulating you. But hey, it was a great domain, so great buy as well

Nem0 - Ehh, I would never flood anything It would just bring the market back down, once it goes up, you need to control yourself LOL

[Compassion]

losing money on names is no fun


This time next year we should be in a better domain name climate..

the rest of the economic world will still be harsh.

[snoop]

Originally Posted by Asmro

Chef, even though you lost money, a sale is a sale. Every cent you can get in this economy is great So thats why I was congratulating you. But hey, it was a great domain, so great buy as well

Losses are the reality of the market really. Personally about 10% of the names I have sold lately have been at a loss, and most they were acquired between 2002-2006. Anyone who has been buying LLLL.com in the last year likely has a loss on most of their names. If you think the money is better off invested elsewhere it is a good idea to take the loss even though for many it is hard to do.

[bmugford]

A rare time I agree with Snoop.

Losses are a part of any business. No one can make money on every single deal. All you have to be though is a winner more times than you are a loser, or just have bigger wins than losses.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

Part of any business is knowing when to cut your losses. You can probably do more reinvesting the money from Xoda.com in this market than you could have done with a $1200 sale 6 months ago.

Brad

Originally Posted by snoop

Losses are the reality of the market really. Personally about 10% of the names I have sold lately have been at a loss, and most they were acquired between 2002-2006. Anyone who has been buying LLLL.com in the last year likely has a loss on most of their names. If you think the money is better off invested elsewhere it is a good idea to take the loss even though for many it is hard to do.

[forest]

Originally Posted by Chef Patrick

Ummm Asmro, I lost money on the sale. Please read the posts when you make a comment, now I have to go

Why dont you offer it to me ? I sure I can give you a bid higher than just $650.

[gladdy]

Congrats to XODA.COM buyer, definitly good investment at that price!
Hold it and sell for 5x initial value.

Originally Posted by forest

Why dont you offer it to me ? I sure I can give you a bid higher than just $650.

[tetrapak]

Originally Posted by FantasyCombine

The last few days on Namejet: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 fmoo.com $151 oqit.com $70 mlmf.com $190 gihu.com $602 cuvs.com $430 rdin.com $180 ponl.com $939 renewals have been added

+
jspp.com - $113
fdng.com - $170
setp.com - $680
bamh.com - $160

[Salmon]

Originally Posted by tetrapak

+ jspp.com - $113 setp.com - $680

Good for the buyer!

[D-K]

Originally Posted by tetrapak

+ bamh.com - $160

Also a nice pick up for the buyer

[DNK.it]

rotu.com | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 2,705 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 11

kulg.com | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 270 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 5

aguq.com | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 60 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 1

SEDO

[kolumbas]

Originally Posted by FantasyCombine

The last few days on Namejet: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 rdin.com $180 Today on TDNX: renewals have been added

Cant believe rdin.com was sold for so cheap..arrrgh

[Salmon]

YNGZ.com
ended at ebay. 36.77$

[DnDot.com]

Originally Posted by Salmon

YNGZ.com ended at ebay. 36.77$

Now thats a good sale for that name. Considering the prices have fallen on ebay anything is possible. Sometimes people there are really cheap and sometimes they bid too much.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

Originally Posted by snoop

Losses are the reality of the market really. Personally about 10% of the names I have sold lately have been at a loss, and most they were acquired between 2002-2006. Anyone who has been buying LLLL.com in the last year likely has a loss on most of their names. If you think the money is better off invested elsewhere it is a good idea to take the loss even though for many it is hard to do.

Good point here snoop. Making a loss at times is part of the business. I have made some losses because I entered the market at the wrong time, at the same time I have learned a lot. It might have costed me but if I stick to domaining and continue to learn I cannot see myself making a loss in the future.

While it may be an idea to move the money somewhere else, I do not personally think so. We got to remember that domaining is a new market and the number of investors will probably keep growing for at least the next 10 years if not a lot more. This means that whoever plays their crads right will be at a profit at some point.

[krx]

Originally Posted by forest

Why dont you offer it to me ? I sure I can give you a bid higher than just $650.

I'm sure that will make him feel better.

Originally Posted by snoop

... Anyone who has been buying LLLL.com in the last year likely has a loss on most of their names. If you think the money is better off invested elsewhere it is a good idea to take the loss even though for many it is hard to do.

True, it entirely depends on your business plan and better opportunities for investment that may present themselves. However I started buying into the LLLL market in January of last year and picked up a lot of names for $20 to $30 that are identical in quality to the names now selling on ebay for not much less than that, on average. The biggest difference is not the avg price but the variability. Your average double or triple prem can sell for anything from $7 to $35 - though most seem to be in the $15 to $25 range. Sales were much more consistently within a narrower range last year. But if the average price for these continues to creep up (yes I'm shifting my focus from minimum to average because it now, due to the market variability, is a more reliable parameter) then I and others won't need to sell at a loss but should be able to at least break even, more or less ... at least on the lower quality names.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

The trick is for people not to dump their names at the first sign of an uptick in prices, since too many doing this just floods the market and brings prices back down. Fear that this market, and the current upward trend, is all based on hype and LLLL domainer illusions and is doomed to imminent collapse is the primary reason the weaker hands among us would do this. But this is also how unbalanced fearmongering about imminent collapse can become a self fulfilling prophecy and is not something responsible domainers - esp those with senior status here - should engage in.

[sibaong]

Originally Posted by italiandragon

SnapNames ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 Saws.com $50,000

Sold $52,000 @ Aftermarket .Com


AfternicDLS:

SMSe.com - $6,813
najd.com - $3,288

[prince]

when i see this popularity of pronouncable 4 letter dot coms nowadays , say i wish i had not sold my llll domains so cheap
i sold Qebo.com for 40$ and Yexa.com for 70$
some days you should resist and conquer upon a temptation of making a deal

[HcDomains]

Originally Posted by Salmon

YNGZ.com ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 ended at ebay. 36.77$

I am the winner
Are u the seller for YNGZ? (Plz push it to me now if you are.. lol)

I bid that amount higher that most of your expected because of it means some in Chinese (You can read more on what behind on my blog post Chinese Pinyin Domains, Investing targets Chinese Users if you interested)

I also send one LLLL.com and one LLLL.net to eBay auction today. will waiting to see what will happen in 7 days

[Salmon]

Originally Posted by NameLinker

I am the winner ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 Are u the seller for YNGZ? (Plz push it to me now if you are.. lol) I bid that amount higher that most of your expected because of it means some in Chinese (You can read more on what behind on my blog post Chinese Pinyin Domains, Investing targets Chinese Users if you interested) I also send one LLLL.com and one LLLL.net to eBay auction today. will waiting to see what will happen in 7 days

Not me.


As a Chinese myself, I will not sell it at this price.
Good buy ,namelinker~

[sibaong]

Originally Posted by prince

when i see this popularity of pronouncable 4 letter dot coms nowadays , say i wish i had not sold my llll domains so cheap ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 i sold Qebo.com for 40$ and Yexa.com for 70$ some days you should resist and conquer upon a temptation of making a deal

I sold my YEVI ($1,600) and XORU (300 Euro)

[Salmon]

Originally Posted by sibaong

I sold my YEVI ($1,600) and XORU (300 Euro)

Nice sell, Sandi

[HcDomains]

Originally Posted by Salmon

As a Chinese myself, I will not sell it at this price. Good buy ,namelinker~

You are definitely right! I am sure that 云南工作 (Just to non-Chinese Speaker: It means "YunNan Jobs", Yun Nan is one of the most beautiful province in China) worth of higher than $40

[Chef Patrick]

I have no problem losing money, it is a part of business. Just when you lose money someone doesn't say congrats, lol.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

Originally Posted by bmugford

A rare time I agree with Snoop. Losses are a part of any business. No one can make money on every single deal. All you have to be though is a winner more times than you are a loser, or just have bigger wins than losses. Part of any business is knowing when to cut your losses. You can probably do more reinvesting the money from Xoda.com in this market than you could have done with a $1200 sale 6 months ago. Brad

[EG.domains]

Originally Posted by bmugford

A rare time I agree with Snoop. Losses are a part of any business. No one can make money on every single deal. All you have to be though is a winner more times than you are a loser, or just have bigger wins than losses. Part of any business is knowing when to cut your losses. You can probably do more reinvesting the money from Xoda.com in this market than you could have done with a $1200 sale 6 months ago. Brad

I second that.