[Tim Schoon]

ilkt.com is actually pretty nice, best one on the list IMO.

[Ergo]

So we are finally getting these not-renewed LLLL.coms that were registered at GoDaddy from buy-out times! Creation Date: 26-oct-2007. So I think next week will be very hot at TDNAM and prices will see the new floor!

[Tim Schoon]

Originally Posted by Ergo

So we are finally getting these not-renewed LLLL.coms that were registered at GoDaddy from buy-out times! Creation Date: 26-oct-2007. So I think next week will be very hot at TDNAM and prices will see the new floor!

the good thing is.. after that week, very little LLLL.coms will drop, so prices will gain again

[Ergo]

I looked at whois of all TDNAM drops planned for the next 10 days:

uxpn.com 25-oct-2007
sblq.com 25-oct-2006
roqm.com 25-oct-2006
fbqa.com 25-oct-2005
qoxt.com 25-oct-2007
dhqv.com 25-oct-2007
zwnr.com 25-oct-2007
zbrw.com 25-oct-2007
pdfq.com 25-oct-2002
vhwk.com 25-oct-2007
lojq.com 24-oct-2007
xikp.com 15-oct-2007
cxay.com 20-sep-2006
zqrg.com 26-oct-2007
zsuy.com 25-oct-2007
zuqf.com 26-oct-2007
zxvm.com 25-oct-2007
ypfq.com 25-oct-2007
yqef.com 25-oct-2007
yqfr.com 25-oct-2007
yqiv.com 25-oct-2007
yqko.com 25-oct-2007
yqkr.com 25-oct-2007
yqvl.com 25-oct-2007
yqwp.com 25-oct-2007
yqxe.com 25-oct-2007
yqzo.com 25-oct-2007
yrqo.com 25-oct-2007
yvzf.com 25-oct-2007
pqrw.com 25-oct-2007
plqv.com 25-oct-2007
pjqi.com 25-oct-2007
pjqo.com 25-oct-2007
pjrq.com 25-oct-2007
pjvq.com 25-oct-2007
phqk.com 25-oct-2007
lvzq.com 25-oct-2007
lxwq.com 26-oct-2007
lqsu.com 25-oct-2007
lfwq.com 26-oct-2007
gjza.com
ygqk.com
yhzv.com
yjxv.com
ykpq.com
ynqo.com
ynvq.com
yoqf.com
yoqg.com
yoqj.com
yoqn.com
ybvq.com
ycqe.com
ycvq.com
ycvz.com
yczv.com
ydqi.com
ydqk.com
yeqc.com
yeqk.com
yfvq.com
yfvx.com
ygqb.com
xiqg.com
xjzv.com
xopv.com 25-oct-2007
xqan.com 25-oct-2007
xrqd.com
xvcw.com
xwij.com
xwve.com
xfbq.com
xgiw.com
xhvt.com
wfkp.com 26-oct-2002
vzlp.com 26-oct-2007
ouxq.com
oxqj.com
oyqh.com
otqk.com
oqgj.com
oqkp.com
oqrk.com
oqzt.com
nvqy.com
ojzq.com
nwqf.com
nwqi.com
nzyq.com
nqpk.com
nqvf.com
nqwu.com
nkqf.com
jvkq.com
jxhv.com
jovx.com
jqzo.com
vqnb.com
vqnc.com
vfqj.com
vmwq.com
vqnf.com
vqng.com
vqog.com
vqox.com
vqsg.com
vqsv.com
vqtl.com
vqvl.com
vqwk.com
vqwv.com
vqwx.com
vqxp.com
vqxv.com
vqxw.com
vqye.com
vqyg.com
vqyr.com
vqzd.com
vqzg.com
vqzl.com
vqzv.com
vnlq.com
vnqd.com
vpqu.com
vqbl.com
vqem.com
vqev.com
vqfi.com
vqgu.com
vqgv.com
vqgz.com
vqib.com
vqiy.com
vqiz.com
vqjk.com
vqjn.com
vqko.com
vqmb.com
vqmg.com
vqmp.com
vqmu.com
vqmv.com
vqmz.com
vfqs.com
vjcz.com
vkqu.com
vgqe.com
vhkx.com
vdwx.com
vdxy.com
utql.com
uqmz.com
uqtf.com
ucqk.com
ugkq.com
rzjv.com
rqav.com
rzoq.com
rqcv.com
rzqi.com
rzqk.com
rzwv.com
rvjx.com
rvjz.com
rvkq.com
rvkx.com
rvmq.com
rvqf.com
rvqn.com
rvqu.com
rvzj.com
rwbq.com
rwjq.com
rwqf.com
rwqg.com
rwxe.com
rwxj.com
rxoq.com
rxqf.com
rxuj.com
rxvk.com
rxvq.com
rxyv.com
ryqb.com
ryqm.com
rzeq.com
rziq.com
rqdk.com
rqdu.com
rqgk.com
rqgv.com
rqiv.com
rqiy.com
rqiz.com
rqji.com
rqjn.com
rqkb.com
rqko.com
rqkt.com
rqlv.com
rqmw.com
rqnv.com
rqnz.com
rqoj.com
rqou.com
rqpj.com
rqpz.com
rqvb.com
rqvj.com
rqvo.com
rqxe.com
rqxj.com
rqxo.com
rqyi.com
rpkq.com
rpqu.com
rpqy.com
rpzq.com 25-oct-2007
rqaj.com 25-oct-2007
rjlq.com
rjqb.com
rjqf.com
rjqv.com
rjuq.com
rjxu.com
rkvq.com
rkwq.com
rljq.com
rlkq.com
rmqw.com
rmqx.com
rnqk.com
rnqw.com
rnqx.com
rnqz.com
rgqj.com
rgvq.com
mzqo.com
mzqv.com
iuzq.com
ivjx.com
ixqg.com
iyqn.com
iqwj.com
iqzj.com
ilkt.com
tkqr.com
qfjr.com
qfrv.com
rbxq.com
qfvi.com
quxc.com
qvah.com
qvbx.com
qvjm.com
qvng.com
qvpb.com
qvum.com
qwiy.com
qwlu.com
qwpn.com
qwuw.com
qxqt.com
qxtp.com
qynf.com
qziv.com
qzrn.com
qzux.com
qzvo.com
qzvs.com
qfzn.com
qgjo.com
qgyc.com
qixf.com
qjce.com
qjeb.com
qjnf.com
qjvr.com
qjwp.com
qjzo.com
qkmf.com
qncv.com
qngw.com
qnwf.com
qnwt.com
qnxe.com
qopj.com
qovg.com
qoxk.com
qoxn.com
qpbv.com
qpdw.com
qpjh.com
qpvq.com
qpzr.com
qrdw.com
qrgz.com
qryc.com
qrzw.com
qajz.com
qbxr.com
qcvd.com
qcxv.com
qezv.com
mfkq.com
ybru.com
xodr.com
uxjd.com
zdej.com
vsgh.com
uxpg.com
pqal.com
pkas.com
svjx.com
ntuj.com
qtrk.com
pvud.com
aemj.com
elvq.com
zdoq.com
vjkj.com
jcmv.com
mzoq.com
hpkz.com
hflo.com
cuvd.com
wbjn.com
pqrx.com 29-oct-2006
oobh.com
oobn.com
ogvd.com
iptj.com
ebmz.com
dqag.com
uvxj.com
vpxg.com
vpxz.com
vpzk.com
vxqb.com
vxwl.com
vfql.com
vgzx.com
vhxw.com
vhzf.com
vcxq.com
vcyq.com
uwjz.com
uxjw.com
uzxj.com
uzxk.com
uqgj.com
uqjc.com
ujhx.com
ujzc.com
mqxp.com
quvr.com
qvhm.com
qxek.com
qxln.com
qfwk.com
qrpy.com 30-oct-2007
ewxq.com
zqij.com
zrmw.com
zvfp.com
zvge.com
zvgt.com
yvqb.com
xnzv.com
ybzv.com
xnqf.com 30-oct-2007
nkqb.com
nqmv.com
nqxb.com
jvqg.com
ovjz.com
otqj.com
lqjv.com
dgyk.com
ysmq.com
ywbn.com
jqfv.com
qwpz.com
mvqk.com
mvqw.com
mvqx.com
mvqz.com
mqxu.com
eqxr.com
ybmr.com
wpws.com
pfxq.com
owqp.com
lqwn.com
vuqg.com
vwqz.com
vwsq.com
vwtq.com
vxcw.com
vxji.com
vzls.com
uuud.com
oqzs.com
nqfj.com
nqhv.com
nqmz.com
nqvh.com
nlqx.com
fjpy.com
jmwf.com
jzbs.com
mbxr.com
xyfv.com
xyjv.com
xykv.com
xyvj.com
xzvd.com 02-nov-2007
xjvn.com
xlnj.com
xnel.com
xohe.com
xqvd.com
xtes.com
xvmb.com
xvnw.com
xvpd.com
xvrh.com
xvrz.com
xvzd.com
xwbp.com
xwhv.com
owpj.com
lyfr.com
zvgn.com
zvhp.com
zfhv.com
zfvs.com
zmvh.com
znef.com
zpbv.com
zrqk.com
zvbt.com 01-nov-2007
uqyh.com
ugxq.com
vphl.com
vqkx.com
vqxl.com
vxkp.com
vxkt.com 01-nov-2007
vxwb.com 02-nov-2007
vxwk.com 01-nov-2007
vxwp.com 02-nov-2007
vlem.com 01-nov-2004
vlqz.com
vnqz.com
vdqz.com 01-nov-2007
vhxq.com 01-nov-2007
uqyw.com 01-nov-2007
ujpx.com 01-nov-2007
uqhx.com 01-nov-2007
uqkn.com 01-nov-2007
uqkx.com 01-nov-2007
uqkz.com 01-nov-2007
uqxl.com 01-nov-2007
ufvx.com 01-nov-2007
ugqz.com 01-nov-2007
rjua.com 01-nov-2005
ebvp.com 01-nov-2004
vxtk.com 02-nov-2007
vyqw.com 02-nov-2007
vyqx.com 02-nov-2007
uxfv.com 02-nov-2007
oauy.com 02-nov-2006
ivqi.com 02-nov-2006
iqvi.com 02-nov-2006
zvqg.com 02-nov-2007
zvqy.com 02-nov-2007
yizp.com 02-nov-2006
xvlk.com 02-nov-2007
xvqf.com 02-nov-2007
xvwt.com 02-nov-2007
hpqr.com 02-nov-2000
wtzb.com 02-nov-2005
wmyu.com 02-nov-2005
akqe.com 02-nov-2006
qxyv.com 02-nov-2007
qyxv.com 02-nov-2007
tuiy.com 03-nov-2006
lvym.com 03-nov-2007
cjgk.com 03-nov-2007
pbvn.com 03-nov-2006
jtrw.com 03-nov-2006
jdnn.com 03-nov-2002
ifkj.com 03-nov-2007
jdfs.com 04-nov-2003
jdyl.com 04-nov-2004
iuot.com 04-nov-2006
zvrf.com 04-nov-2007
xdwt.com 04-nov-2007
veui.com 04-nov-2006
rmvi.com 04-nov-2004

so as we see in 8-9 days we will pass buyout drop at TDNAM!!!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/358387-the-llll-com-sales-discussion-thread.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387
pay attention to pdfq.com 2002 year of registration! What I like in TDNAM is that they preserve registration date!

The absolute majority of not renewed domains were from 25th and partially from 25th of October registrations.

[Tim Schoon]

Originally Posted by Ergo

so as we see in 8-9 days we will pass buyout drop at TDNAM!!! pay attention to pdfq.com 2002 year of registration! What I like in TDNAM is that they preserve registration date! The absolute majority of not renewed domains were from 25th and partially from 25th of October registrations.

There are some way older domains in that list,
jdnn.com 2002-11-03
wbjn.com 2002-10-29
iptj.com 2002-10-29
dqag.com 2002-10-29
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387
wfkp.com 2002-10-26
pdfq.com 2002-10-25
xlnj.com 2001-11-02
hpqr.com 2000-11-02
uuud.com 2000-10-31
hflo.com 2000-10-29
WPWS.com first registered at: 19-10-97

[shreder]

Might be a bit late but I'm another one of those who paid for a domain listed by "Janel Clowes" on Sedo, it was SQQQ.com and I promptly and never received the domain.

After few days I received an e-mail from Sedo saying that the seller never pushed the domain to their account and the transaction is canceled.

Beware!

[EG.domains]

Pily.com $2,272 (Sedo)

[Tim Schoon]

Originally Posted by shreder

Might be a bit late but I'm another one of those who paid for a domain listed by "Janel Clowes" on Sedo, it was SQQQ.com and I promptly and never received the domain. After few days I received an e-mail from Sedo saying that the seller never pushed the domain to their account and the transaction is canceled. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 Beware!

I know clowes (tomclowes on DNF), done a quite big deal with him before, no probs.

[Makis.TV]

clowes was recently accused for such tacticts on dnf

[Chef Patrick]

I really dislike NameJet and like sites. I put a backorder on SRRA.com for $69. Once I did that they added it to there site so others can bid as well. That really sucks, what is the purpose of creating a back order if they are going to share with everyone. So now that I back ordered the domain I'll probably make NameJet a couple hundred bucks.

[Shenron]

Originally Posted by Chef Patrick

I really dislike NameJet and like sites. I put a backorder on SRRA.com for $69. Once I did that they added it to there site so others can bid as well. That really sucks, what is the purpose of creating a back order if they are going to share with everyone. So now that I back ordered the domain I'll probably make NameJet a couple hundred bucks.

Did you think no 1 else would backorder SRRA?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

Well, I would.

[Chef Patrick]

Originally Posted by Shenron

Did you think no 1 else would backorder SRRA? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 Well, I would.

Not really, guess I was hoping no one else would back order it. In fact there is four LLLL.com's dropping today that are not affiliated with SnapNames or NameJet, this was one of them. The other three, well I'll just try to get them if they drop in the next few minutes

[Ergo]

Quote:

I really dislike NameJet and like sites. I put a backorder on SRRA.com for $69. Once I did that they added it to there site so others can bid as well. That really sucks, what is the purpose of creating a back order if they are going to share with everyone. So now that I back ordered the domain I'll probably make NameJet a couple hundred bucks.

Do you really think that you was the only who wanted to backorder it?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387
But also how can you blame NameJet? This is their business and they want this domain to sell for as much as possible so they are very smart and try to make maximum exposure to the domains that were backordered.

Quote:

Not really, guess I was hoping no one else would back order it. In fact there is four LLLL.com's dropping today that are not affiliated with SnapNames or NameJet, this was one of them. The other three, well I'll just try to get them if they drop in the next few minutes

srra.com is on main page of Pool.com BTW. So you had no chance that you was the only who noted it. Any quad-premium is backordered with at least 10 bidders at SN.

[Chef Patrick]

Originally Posted by Ergo

Do you really think that you was the only who wanted to backorder it? But also how can you blame NameJet? This is their business and they want this domain to sell for as much as possible so they are very smart and try to make maximum exposure to the domains that were backordered. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 srra.com is on main page of Pool.com BTW. So you had no chance that you was the only who noted it. Any quad-premium is backordered with at least 10 bidders at SN.

i know but i can dream...

i agree that it's namejets business but it's a poor practice. to me the purpose of a back order service is to do just that, back order the domain name for me.

godaddy does not showcase there back orders. i use them a lot for keyword domains and do pretty good.

[EG.domains]

Originally Posted by Chef Patrick

godaddy does not showcase there back orders. i use them a lot for keyword domains and do pretty good.

You can't compare GoDaddy backorder to SnapNames & NameJet.

If someone backordered any domain on Snap or NJ, it would be so hard to capture it by Godaddy. IMO

[Semtex]

Originally Posted by Chef Patrick

i know but i can dream... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387 i agree that it's namejets business but it's a poor practice. to me the purpose of a back order service is to do just that, back order the domain name for me. godaddy does not showcase there back orders. i use them a lot for keyword domains and do pretty good.

There are dozens of people who agree with you, but there are also dozens of people who wish to snag the same name from you as well.

In a perfect world, the first person to backorder the name should get first dibs on it. But the backorder companies know they can make big money if they let all backordering go to auction. It's a dog eat dog world.

[Nem0]

Originally Posted by Chef Patrick

they added it to there site so others can bid as well. That really sucks

Hehe. What about the other 16 people that also backordered it, half of which probably BO'ed before you.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

Originally Posted by shreder

I'm another one of those who paid for a domain listed by "Janel Clowes" on Sedo, it was SQQQ.com and I promptly and never received the domain.

Originally Posted by Toilet Monster

I know clowes (tomclowes on DNF), done a quite big deal with him before, no probs.

Originally Posted by on!SPOT

clowes was recently accused for such tacticts on dnf

Geezz! So much conflicting info about this seller. I planned on trying to win a couple of their names but not sure what I'll do now.

LLLL.com sales (eBay) for the usually-slow Fri and Sat so far:

ZKQA $15.81
WZEV $20.50
WZAV $40.00
WZOV $20.50
BGQX $26.00
DZMQ $16.49
LKPJ $17.51
IWJB $16.51
JBZB $11.30

[www.iyii.com]

Originally Posted by FantasyCombine

There are dozens of people who agree with you, but there are also dozens of people who wish to snag the same name from you as well. In a perfect world, the first person to backorder the name should get first dibs on it. But the backorder companies know they can make big money if they let all backordering go to auction. It's a dog eat dog world.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387
and u must pay the fee. u backorder a name , u want only for u , and how can it be free ?

if it is free i will backorder all names

[Chef Patrick]

Originally Posted by Nem0

Hehe. What about the other 16 people that also backordered it, half of which probably BO'ed before you.

i was the first to back order it, they only jumped on because the list on the site. that's ok i'm happier now, i picked up two pretty good drops today, ForeverChrist & ReligiousSpace, both .com

[bgmv]

Geezz! So much conflicting info about this seller. I planned on trying to win a couple of their names but not sure what I'll do now.

LLLL.com sales (eBay) for the usually-slow Fri and Sat so far:

[/QUOTE]

Yeah I also wanted to bid on a bunch of his quad premiums on ebay but dont know what to do now.

[Asmro]

Hey, I know this is a little late in the game, but just to be clear, don't deal with Thomas Clowes. I got the email too, (which I got excited about) and told him that it would look stupid for me to post something about his auction. We could work something out with an incentive.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

But I shouldn't deal with him.


Edit:

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...eedbackAsBuyer

His ebay seems legit. Over 1,000 posistive trades, some being domains (e.g. llll.coms)

[Ergo]

Originally Posted by Chef Patrick

Hehe. What about the other 16 people that also backordered it, half of which probably BO'ed before you.

I was backordering it via Pool information. First I go to pool. Look at nice domains and backorder them via NJ/SN/Pool.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387

Finally NJ seems not to attract as many bidders as SN. The name finally went to SN auction with 21 bidders

[matrigaldo]

I have had some deals with this Clowes in the past.
He has listed on eBay some VCVC.com domain names with a wrong expiration date: the listings said they would expire in 1 year but in really they were already expired.
Since the registrar was name.com, they use to "renew" the domain until the owner pay for the renewal (or the domain would be deleted), so the whois looked fine.
After he pushed the domains to my account (i don't know why, but on Name.com it's possible to push expired names) and i have noticed that, i asked him to refund me part of the money and he did with no problems.

Anyway, i'm not telling everyone has to trust in him, but i have no problems on these deals (i've bought some delicious VCVC.coms for low-mid $xx). Maybe he uses to be honest on eBay and not honest on elsewhere? We will never know.

Hey guys, i'm very glad to see LLLL.coms market is slowly rising up again

[-REECE-]

More often than not, people have more than 1 account here to shill bid on their own names, form pseudo identities, or to break other rules without consequence.

There's no logical, legit reason to have multiple accounts, certainly not 40(?) of them.

Be careful dealing with anyone banned here or elsewhere -- more likely than not the reason is justified.

[matrigaldo]

Originally Posted by -REECE-

More often than not, people have more than 1 account here to shill bid on their own names, form pseudo identities, or to break other rules without consequence. There's no logical, legit reason to have multiple accounts, certainly not 40(?) of them. Be careful dealing with anyone banned here or elsewhere -- more likely than not the reason is justified.

Oh i didn't know that... well, yes, absolutely don't trust in him.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=358387
Even if i and few others had good experiences with him.

At least, i'm not going to bid on those domain names.