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Old 10-29-2007, 06:53 AM   ˇ #26
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The webfilters that your users are trying to avoid will usually scan the domains they visit for keywords so they know whether to block it or not. Proxy or prox tends to be one of the first things they put on this list.


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abdussamad, I suggets HagioHost.com, see this thread, and riley. Using words like proxy, unfilter and bypass are bad because automatic filters pick up on these words in domains and filter them.

Thats why for my proxy network I chose NeeJ, TeeJ & ZeeJ. All similar, but no autofilter will pick them up because of the domains.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:36 AM   ˇ #28
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As promised, here's a new article I wrote on blocking traffic from specific countries

I hope this helps everyone!
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Great articles! Can i ask whats the best keywords to put into the proxy html to be found? I want to start a proxy site but your saying that we shouldnt put proxy and bypass etc. as a keyword.

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Old 11-02-2007, 03:53 AM   ˇ #30
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Originally Posted by dave9713
Great articles! Can i ask whats the best keywords to put into the proxy html to be found? I want to start a proxy site but your saying that we shouldnt put proxy and bypass etc. as a keyword.

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It's advisable not to use the word proxy, prox or similar in the domain name. As far as the HTML of the proxy page you should be creative in your text so that asdense picks up good paying keywords. For example, instead of writing a plain:
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this is a web proxy that you can use to browse orkut, myspace facebook and any website you want


write something like
Quote:
does your network administrator block your internet access using special software? If yes then you can keep browsing the net, playing games, entertaining yourself and continuing your normal internet activities using our new web proxy. You can browse anonymously any website....



You see what I mean?
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:45 AM   ˇ #32
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Originally Posted by xpsave

It's advisable not to use the word proxy, prox or similar in the domain name. As far as the HTML of the proxy page you should be creative in your text so that asdense picks
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does your network administrator block your internet access using special software? If yes then you can keep browsing the net, playing games, entertaining yourself and continuing your normal internet activities using our new web proxy. You can browse anonymously any website....



You see what I mean?



Interesting idea. Do you have a proxy that uses text like that? I'd like to see what type of ads are being delivered.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:35 AM   ˇ #33
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Here's one of my proxies. If you need help with such a text I can help you.

Due to popular requests over PMs I have posted a blog post on proxy toplists. Enjoy and I hope it helps you with your proxy business.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:34 PM   ˇ #34
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Adbright on proxied pages

I've put adbright banners on my proxied pages. A top banner shows at the top of the page in Phproxy.

Here's the link where I got the how to...

http://www.freeproxytemplates.com/a...-adbrite-proxy/

The banners do produce some extra income.
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earlier they used to be 6-7eCPM

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I don't think there's a solution to this. What I've noticed is that new proxies bring in good earning for a few days and then they get smart-priced. You might want to consider selling your proxies and starting new ones.
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:00 AM   ˇ #37
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If you don't use the words "proxy" etc.. What about SEO, How are you going to get rank for thies words when people search on google at school for a proxy?
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Originally Posted by champ_rock
Guys I have been smartpriced... suggestion on how to tackle this miserable situation... earnings have fallen to about .80$ eCPM now

earlier they used to be 6-7eCPM

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I have a suggestion. If only one proxy site in your network is smart priced then try and encourage your visitors to use your other proxies that pay higher.
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[QUOTE=$1.00]If you don't use the words "proxy" etc.. What about SEO, How are you going to get rank for thies words when people search on google at school for a proxy?QUOTE]

You dont want to be on the first page of google for the keyword proxy! That is how your proxy will get blocked faster. Most of the traffic should be coming directly to your proxy (e.g. bookmarked) or through links
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So does having the word Proxy even once in your page trip off filters? or does it have to be reapeated several times? Or is just for domains names and title tags??

I'm very interested in this becuase Last week I made a quite a bit of money off my proxy Topsite alone from several hundred visitors for those 5 work days, and tommoro is the start of new school and work day...(monday)

But I think there more traffic there alot of them can't get threw becuase I have "proxy" in my title tags for SEO.


I think it would helpfull if someon could put a link to a article on how school Filter systems work to better understand it.

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Well, I know how 2 types of filtering software work:
1) They parse the url and if they see a word like "proxy" inside it then they block it. Many workplaces block "email" as well
2) Websense in specific works in a different way: they send bots out everyday to find proxies and proxy related websites. Once they do they enter them in a database. Once network administrators who run websense update their own local databases, these sites are blocked.

In terms of your proxy topsite, it's probably blocked by some software if it has "proxy" (or similar) in it but I think people could be using them at home to gather proxy URLs that they can use at school, college or work.

I hope this helps

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So does having the word Proxy even once in your page trip off filters? or does it have to be reapeated several times? Or is just for domains names and title tags??

I'm very interested in this becuase Last week I made a quite a bit of money off my proxy Topsite alone from several hundred visitors for those 5 work days, and tommoro is the start of new school and work day...(monday)

But I think there more traffic there alot of them can't get threw becuase I have "proxy" in my title tags for SEO.


I think it would helpfull if someon could put a link to a article on how school Filter systems work to better understand it.

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Originally Posted by xpsave

In terms of your proxy topsite, it's probably blocked by some software if it has "proxy" (or similar) in it but I think people could be using them at home to gather proxy URLs that they can use at school, college or work.

I hope this helps




Nope my traffic comes from google during the morning at afternoon from people at school or work. Then dies off around 4pm. I'm on the first or sometime second page for "keyword + proxies" .
How about <h1> tags on the page header. Would <h1>Proxies</1> set off a filter? As you know h tags are good for SEO, googlebot likes them.

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Googlebot likes those tags and so does bots from Websense and other Filtering software. You can't have everything: if you rank for google, then you will probably be picked up by websense bots and categorized as "proxy avoidance".
However, people will find ways of accessing your website, either from home (the timeslots you mention above are relative since we live in a global market) or through other proxies (to find new proxies once the one they use now is blocked).

One alternative is to install a self-signed SSL certificate to, at least, avoid Websense, from blocking your site. Proxy.org is the most famous proxy toplist site and even though it's blocked by all filtering software, they are still popular. They run https as an alternative if you are blocked.

Bottom line is: if people find what they are looking for on your website, they'll find ways to access it and keep coming back


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Nope my traffic comes from google during the morning at afternoon from people at school or work. Then dies off around 4pm. I'm on the first or sometime second page for "keyword + proxies" .
How about <h1> tags on the page header. Would <h1>Proxies</1> set off a filter? As you know h tags are good for SEO, googlebot likes them.

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"If you don't use the words "proxy" etc.. What about SEO, How are you going to get rank for thies words when people search on google at school for a proxy?"

Exactly my point!
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"If you don't use the words "proxy" etc.. What about SEO, How are you going to get rank for thies words when people search on google at school for a proxy?"

Exactly my point!



Would making the image's alt="proxy" help?
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Originally Posted by Captain Tycoon
Would making the image's alt="proxy" help?




I don't I was hoping someone here had article writtin by someone knowlegable about how filters work. Like maby a article from a .edu domain. (they usually have the best non-biased factual articles on subjects)

As for HTTPS, If this can bypass websense then there is good option.
Mod_SSL is installed on my server. I have to figure out how to use it though. I have no idea.
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I don't I was hoping someone here had article writtin by someone knowlegable about how filters work. Like maby a article from a .edu domain. (they usually have the best non-biased factual articles on subjects)

As for HTTPS, If this can bypass websense then there is good option.
Mod_SSL is installed on my server. I have to figure out how to use it though. I have no idea.



Not all filters work in the same way. As I said earlier, websense and bluecoat categorize websites and then network administrators block the desired categories. Websense has a database with 1 billion websites while bluecoat has 15million BUT can block https. Alladin works in a similar way. Check their website.
Other ones block any URL that has specific words in it e.g. gmail.com might be blocked because it contains "mail" in it.

Happy Proxy is a paid proxy script which is supposed to be able to keep filtering software away and avoid blocking them but I have yet to see this with websense.

Regarding SSL, on my H-Shpere I have an option to enable SSL but I need to change to dedicated IP first. Then I can generate a "self-signed" certificate and access my website using https.

You could try asking your host provider for support?
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What is the best proxy script for logging in to sites such as Myspace and Facebook?
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I like surrogafier for this purpose because it's very robust and just 1 file. Should work for both myspace and facebook.

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What is the best proxy script for logging in to sites such as Myspace and Facebook?



here's another post I wrote on my blog regarding advertising your proxies . It has to do with google/yahoo groups and social media.

I hope it helps
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Hey everyone,
Here's another article I wrote on Proxies: Go for SEO because Toplists and Social Media are a waste of time

No offence to all Toplists owners but I think that most of them don't do any good to proxies
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