Using Wordtracker

NP41215 · 08-17-2007, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Varon

Neat. I have the 1yr subscription. I started domaining in Jan this year and purchased it thinking, either it makes or breaks me with the 300 bucks. I had made up my mind that if my investments didn't work out, I would cry a bit at the end of the year, not renew my domains, forget about domaining and never look back.

I think I may renew it in Dec now.

Anyone using SiteBuildIt?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/350283-power-tips-for-domain-parking.html

From what I heard, SiteBuildIt has a powerful capability like WordTracker and cost $299 per year including webhosting and a whole lot of marketing help

I've not decided whether to use SiteBuildIt or not and am in no hurry. But if anyone has experience with both and can comment on SiteBuildIt's keyword search features compared to WordTracker, it would be very helpful.

Varon · 09-03-2007, 05:59 AM

NP, I have not used Sitebuildit yet. I hope we get some reviews on it from members who have used it.

Its been some time since I last updated this thread. This long weekend is a good time to add a new update. As always, these tips may be known to many but I'd like to mention them for the benefit of the relatively many who are unaware.

We go a step further with using wordtracker..

Our goal today is to use wordtracker to find words ending in a tld like .com, .net etc. For this we can use the wildcard " .* " without the quotes. For example if I want to find all the tld's typed in starting with the letters "ta", I would run a search for " ta*.* ". Similarly, if I need to find words starting with the letters "be", I would use "be*.*".
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283

Here is a screenshot

And here are the results

Another nice bit of software widget in the market is "feedjit". Feedjit provides live traffic origin stats on your blog/site and looks pretty neat. It kind of adds a nice dash of excitement to your blogs. I am using it on my signature site and if you wish to try it for yourself, check it out here :

www.feedjit.com

Its a simple copy and paste operation and you can also customize the colors.

hal · 09-04-2007, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Varon

Just wanted to get an estimate as to how accurate the quantcast tool is.

Great info here, thanks to Varon for kickstarting the thread.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283

I had a site with 35k uniques a month on Awstats, Quantcast showed 15k.

Btw, does anybody know how often Quantcast update their rankings?

getaddicted · 09-04-2007, 06:54 AM

Hello everyone..

First of all Thanks varon.. you been really wonderfull and ur post are quiet helpfull..

Secondly i would like to share something with you all may be it would be helpfull.. Therez a site called spyfu.com. A pretty good site with really good info.. Just Search for any keyword. And once you did you will get info about Top Advertisers paying in Adword on that particular keyword, Cost per click, Daily Ad budget, What all keywords they are using and many more things.

It really helps to know for the particular keyword which are top paying advertisers and the keywords and stuff.. Try it and u could know better

Hope it helps...

Thank u

fojames · 09-04-2007, 06:12 PM

Keyword spy is a useful tool, to check out the secret of the competition's success and incorporate it into your online campaign, check out http://keywordspy.com/

trlsker01 · 09-04-2007, 07:52 PM

http://getgoogleadsfree.com/

Have anyone used this ad I saw at the bottom threads, and if so is it a crap or does it really work?

Varon · 09-04-2007, 08:03 PM

Thanks Hal. So it looks like there is a difference in the stats. They are a good source for keywords of competing sites and traffic demographics. I guess, when it comes to exact traffic stats, they are not so accurate. But, I think, they don't update their traffic stats regularly the way Alexa does.

Those are superb tips on spyfu and keywordspy. Thanks guys. Your inputs make this thread more valuable for everyone.

Trlsker... its total crap. Don't bother about it.

DnPresident · 09-04-2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by trlsker01

http://getgoogleadsfree.com/

Have anyone used this ad I saw at the bottom threads, and if so is it a crap or does it really work?

You can bet people have figured out how not to pay. Not so sure He/she's going to tell you how. If so is Google going to come after you wanting the ad money?

PowerUp · 09-05-2007, 06:25 AM

How many of you want this post to be a sticky?
I want.

elimam · 09-05-2007, 08:11 PM

i'm for a sticky.

thanks Varon. great post.

Varon · 09-05-2007, 08:17 PM

I really appreciate the thought, but I'd rather leave it non sticky guys. Each time I update it, it anyway comes up.

I have yet to write a nice thread which I myself like a lot. This isn't as good as I'd like it to be. Another thing is, I may be really busy to constantly update the thread since I am working on other projects. However, a rating for the thread is always welcome. Good or bad.

nada · 09-07-2007, 02:18 AM

Thanks for your tip!

advaita · 09-07-2007, 04:29 AM

Excellent thread Varon and lots of excellent tips.

I don't have a tip but I do have a question. Is it OK to submit parked domain names to search engines ? I thought promotion was not allowed, or am I misinterpreting the word promotion ?

hal · 09-07-2007, 04:58 AM

Here is a tip I just thought of, and it may need somebody with more technical apitude to confirm.

Bodis seems to be a great company but they appear to be having some growing
problems resulting in downtime. Even Namedrive, one of the most established of parking companies was down for several days due to a DOS attack. Also sometimes for whatever reason an ISP cannot access a certain IP. Seems to happen all the time in Portugal at least...

So my tip. Why not park your domains with 2 parking companies?

From what I understand nameserver number 2 is only used when nameserver number 1 does not respond. So if your nameservers are ns1.bodis.com and ns2.fastpark.net, your traffic will be sent to Bodis but if their servers are down the traffic will be sent to Namedrive instead. As far as I know it is the order of the nameservers that counts not their actual names. For example Dynadot have fields for 4 nameservers, nameserver 1, 2...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283

I think.

Does anybody know if this would work?

Varon · 09-07-2007, 06:02 AM

Thanks Nada.

Originally Posted by advaita

Excellent thread Varon and lots of excellent tips.

I don't have a tip but I do have a question. Is it OK to submit parked domain names to search engines ? I thought promotion was not allowed, or am I misinterpreting the word promotion ?

Thanks Advaita. It is not okay to submit your parked domain to SE's. But as in my case, I first get my new domains to whypark, keep them on for 2-3 weeks, submit them to search engines and then park them after they are indexed by quite a few engines. In some cases, the indexing does disappear after the domain is parked, but in most cases, it still shows up on certain SE's.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283

Hal, that is a brilliant suggestion.

Have you or anyone else tried it?

advaita · 09-07-2007, 07:39 AM

Excellent idea Varon - pity Whyparkinsist on charging 99$ up front - but it could also be done with a blog - create a blog in the domain name - register it with the search engines - then park it - in fact I think I'll give it a go !

hal · 09-07-2007, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Varon

Thanks Nada.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283

Hal, that is a brilliant suggestion.

Have you or anyone else tried it?

Not yet, I only just thought of it when I made the post. I can't see any reason why it would not work, if DNS works the way I understand it.

Hey Guys,
What about discussing a domain actually found using the techniques described here?

I was brainstorming keywords and then registered:

PrescriptionErrorAttorney.com

It has 7k results in Google, it is obviously a generic and there is another website listed in the SERPs called PrescriptionErrorLawyer.com - a phrase with only 1/10th of the results. All good signs although the other website would have minimal traffic so I do not expect typos from there. I am not even sure if I will make my reg fee back unless I manage to sell it to an end user. Of course it is possible that a single click could pay the entire reg fee but it is also possible the domain will receive zero traffic.

Would you have registered this domain and how would you monetize it? The problem is I find many generics but most of them have no traffic.

As this thread is about tips. Look what the other guy is doing with PrescriptionErrorLawyer.com - very easy to setup, better for SEs, and no parking middle man. However I have no idea where to sell the leads...

dherwan · 09-07-2007, 11:28 AM

Varon

Is there any "secrets tips" how to get traffic (especially) for domain parking ?

Thanks

Varon · 09-07-2007, 11:31 AM

Hal, I think this is a good example to see how we can use wordtracker to analyze your domain and its potential.

I ran a quick check for the keyword "prescription error attorney" and here are the results.

A wildcard search shows me that the highest probability of the exact keyword being used within another search element is via "georgia prescription error attorneys" and the predicted occurence of this term should be around 50 times a day on various search engines. The exact term precription error attorney currently does not figure on the list.

My second check was for how feasible the word would on a search engine (assuming that I intend to start a website and position my site to target the prescription error attorney keyword). I used Google as my benchmark SE and here are the results :

This gives us an idea that "New York City Prescription Error Lawyers" which has a KEI of around 13 and has 2 competing keyword webpage references maybe a somewhat decent keyword to target. But any KEI below 50 is actually not a very significant base to start with. The closest references to precription error attorneys is hartford and then you have Georgia which has too many competing references.

I would assume that this domain would get little to no type-ins. But it might have huge potential for an attorney specializing in prescription error trials. Here too, I would most likley grab precriptionerrorattorneys.com too, because the plural form would hold potential for a webmaster intending to start a directory of all practising attorneys, whereas the singular attorney would hold value for a few.

Advaita, a blog would be a great idea.

Originally Posted by dherwan

Varon

Is there any "secrets tips" how to get traffic (especially) for domain parking ?

Thanks

Dherwan, there is no legitimate trick..lol.. to get traffic to your website. The straightforward way is to use services like parked.com and some others, who allow you to run an adwords campaign to get traffic to your website. There too, you must be really sure of your average CPC being paid and wisely calculate your adwords CPC bid. It's also important to set a decent realistic conversion rate so that you still make some bucks with a CTR of 8%. Once you've estimated that, you should be doing pretty well. And the best part is that, you can use lesser competing words for even bigger keywords like "mesothelioma" to get your traffic in at lower CPC and cash in on the difference.

JesusFreak · 09-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Varon

Hal, I think this is a good example to see how we can use wordtracker to analyze your domain and its potential.

I ran a quick check for the keyword "prescription error attorney" and here are the results.

A wildcard search shows me that the highest probability of the exact keyword being used within another search element is via "georgia prescription error attorneys" and the predicted occurence of this term should be around 50 times a day on various search engines. The exact term precription error attorney currently does not figure on the list.

My second check was for how feasible the word would on a search engine (assuming that I intend to start a website and position my site to target the prescription error attorney keyword). I used Google as my benchmark SE and here are the results :

This gives us an idea that "New York City Prescription Error Lawyers" which has a KEI of around 13 and has 2 competing keyword webpage references maybe a somewhat decent keyword to target. But any KEI below 50 is actually not a very significant base to start with. The closest references to precription error attorneys is hartford and then you have Georgia which has too many competing references.

I would assume that this domain would get little to no type-ins. But it might have huge potential for an attorney specializing in prescription error trials. Here too, I would most likley grab precriptionerrorattorneys.com too, because the plural form would hold potential for a webmaster intending to start a directory of all practising attorneys, whereas the singular attorney would hold value for a few.

Advaita, a blog would be a great idea.

Dherwan, there is no legitimate trick..lol.. to get traffic to your website. The straightforward way is to use services like parked.com and some others, who allow you to run an adwords campaign to get traffic to your website. There too, you must be really sure of your average CPC being paid and wisely calculate your adwords CPC bid. It's also important to set a decent realistic conversion rate so that you still make some bucks with a CTR of 8%. Once you've estimated that, you should be doing pretty well. And the best part is that, you can use lesser competing words for even bigger keywords like "mesothelioma" to get your traffic in at lower CPC and cash in on the difference.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283
Great information Varon for a newbie. Looks like i wasted money on many domains I purchased recently..

dherwan · 09-09-2007, 03:59 PM

Thanks Varon

mbuna · 09-09-2007, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Varon

Continuing the tips. Here is a nice site which I use to submit my domains for inclusion into various search engines. This site allows you to submit your domain name to 20 search engines for free. Remember, every search engine counts. It all adds up in getting you the much needed traffic. Even the smaller search engines help you get in some genuine traffic. So feel free to use this site's free service.
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You can also use http://www.enginesubmittal.com for free search engine submission.

Originally Posted by Varon

Just wanted to get an estimate as to how accurate the quantcast tool is.

http://www.quantcast.com/aquaria.info says 13,593 uniques. Google Analytics shows 30,000 uniques per month.

Mike · 04-10-2008, 01:13 PM

Re-opened per OP's request to update the thread with the latest news and tips.

Enjoy.

M.

Varon · 04-10-2008, 01:46 PM

Thanks Mike, I need to start updating this thread.

trekker · 04-10-2008, 02:33 PM

The Importance of The Keyword

I have a number of names which I consider small or big cash cows.
One of those cows is my fórex.com which regularly brings home $50 a month.

A few months ago she brought me only $4. I was puzzled. Turns out I accidentally switched the keyword FOREX for REAL ESTATE.

Well, I put the right keyword back and my cow is doing $50 again.

09-03-2007, 05:59 AM	THREAD STARTER #52 (permalink)
Varon Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Virginia Posts: 1,398	NP, I have not used Sitebuildit yet. I hope we get some reviews on it from members who have used it. Its been some time since I last updated this thread. This long weekend is a good time to add a new update. As always, these tips may be known to many but I'd like to mention them for the benefit of the relatively many who are unaware. We go a step further with using wordtracker.. Our goal today is to use wordtracker to find words ending in a tld like .com, .net etc. For this we can use the wildcard " .* " without the quotes. For example if I want to find all the tld's typed in starting with the letters "ta", I would run a search for " ta. ". Similarly, if I need to find words starting with the letters "be", I would use "be.". ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283 Here is a screenshot And here are the results Another nice bit of software widget in the market is "feedjit". Feedjit provides live traffic origin stats on your blog/site and looks pretty neat. It kind of adds a nice dash of excitement to your blogs. I am using it on my signature site and if you wish to try it for yourself, check it out here : www.feedjit.com Its a simple copy and paste operation and you can also customize the colors. Last edited by Varon; 09-03-2007 at 06:16 AM.

09-05-2007, 08:11 PM	#60 (permalink)
elimam NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 199	i'm for a sticky. thanks Varon. great post. __________________ Premium domain names available for sale at GNH.jp

09-05-2007, 08:17 PM	THREAD STARTER #61 (permalink)
Varon Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Virginia Posts: 1,398	I really appreciate the thought, but I'd rather leave it non sticky guys. Each time I update it, it anyway comes up. I have yet to write a nice thread which I myself like a lot. This isn't as good as I'd like it to be. Another thing is, I may be really busy to constantly update the thread since I am working on other projects. However, a rating for the thread is always welcome. Good or bad. Last edited by Varon; 09-05-2007 at 09:10 PM.

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09-07-2007, 04:29 AM	#63 (permalink)
advaita Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,524	Excellent thread Varon and lots of excellent tips. I don't have a tip but I do have a question. Is it OK to submit parked domain names to search engines ? I thought promotion was not allowed, or am I misinterpreting the word promotion ? __________________ Best Selling Ebooks * Stocks and Shares * Radley Bags * Chronographs * Cameras Under $300 * How to Trade Stocks Online * Netbooksfor Kids * Geiger Counter Kits * Machetes

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getaddicted NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: India Posts: 303	Hello everyone.. First of all Thanks varon.. you been really wonderfull and ur post are quiet helpfull.. Secondly i would like to share something with you all may be it would be helpfull.. Therez a site called spyfu.com. A pretty good site with really good info.. Just Search for any keyword. And once you did you will get info about Top Advertisers paying in Adword on that particular keyword, Cost per click, Daily Ad budget, What all keywords they are using and many more things. It really helps to know for the particular keyword which are top paying advertisers and the keywords and stuff.. Try it and u could know better Hope it helps... Thank u

09-04-2007, 06:12 PM	#55 (permalink)
fojames Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 228	Keyword spy is a useful tool, to check out the secret of the competition's success and incorporate it into your online campaign, check out http://keywordspy.com/

09-04-2007, 07:52 PM	#56 (permalink)
trlsker01 NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Central Coast, Metal Rocker USA Posts: 366	http://getgoogleadsfree.com/ Have anyone used this ad I saw at the bottom threads, and if so is it a crap or does it really work?

09-04-2007, 08:03 PM	THREAD STARTER #57 (permalink)
Varon Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Virginia Posts: 1,398	Thanks Hal. So it looks like there is a difference in the stats. They are a good source for keywords of competing sites and traffic demographics. I guess, when it comes to exact traffic stats, they are not so accurate. But, I think, they don't update their traffic stats regularly the way Alexa does. Those are superb tips on spyfu and keywordspy. Thanks guys. Your inputs make this thread more valuable for everyone. Trlsker... its total crap. Don't bother about it.

09-05-2007, 06:25 AM	#59 (permalink)
PowerUp Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,268	How many of you want this post to be a sticky? I want.

09-07-2007, 04:58 AM	#64 (permalink)
hal NamePros Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 77	Here is a tip I just thought of, and it may need somebody with more technical apitude to confirm. Bodis seems to be a great company but they appear to be having some growing problems resulting in downtime. Even Namedrive, one of the most established of parking companies was down for several days due to a DOS attack. Also sometimes for whatever reason an ISP cannot access a certain IP. Seems to happen all the time in Portugal at least... So my tip. Why not park your domains with 2 parking companies? From what I understand nameserver number 2 is only used when nameserver number 1 does not respond. So if your nameservers are ns1.bodis.com and ns2.fastpark.net, your traffic will be sent to Bodis but if their servers are down the traffic will be sent to Namedrive instead. As far as I know it is the order of the nameservers that counts not their actual names. For example Dynadot have fields for 4 nameservers, nameserver 1, 2... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=350283 I think. Does anybody know if this would work?

09-07-2007, 07:39 AM	#66 (permalink)
advaita Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,524	Excellent idea Varon - pity Whyparkinsist on charging 99$ up front - but it could also be done with a blog - create a blog in the domain name - register it with the search engines - then park it - in fact I think I'll give it a go ! __________________ Best Selling Ebooks * Stocks and Shares * Radley Bags * Chronographs * Cameras Under $300 * How to Trade Stocks Online * Netbooksfor Kids * Geiger Counter Kits * Machetes

09-07-2007, 11:28 AM	#68 (permalink)
dherwan NamePros Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 124	Varon Is there any "secrets tips" how to get traffic (especially) for domain parking ? Thanks

09-09-2007, 03:59 PM	#71 (permalink)
dherwan NamePros Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 124	Thanks Varon

04-10-2008, 01:13 PM	#73 (permalink)
Mike NamePros Expert Join Date: May 2005 Location: www.chrome.us Posts: 5,184	Re-opened per OP's request to update the thread with the latest news and tips. Enjoy. M.

04-10-2008, 01:46 PM	THREAD STARTER #74 (permalink)
Varon Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Virginia Posts: 1,398	Thanks Mike, I need to start updating this thread.

04-10-2008, 02:33 PM	#75 (permalink)
trekker Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 63	The Keyword The Importance of The Keyword I have a number of names which I consider small or big cash cows. One of those cows is my fórex.com which regularly brings home $50 a month. A few months ago she brought me only $4. I was puzzled. Turns out I accidentally switched the keyword FOREX for REAL ESTATE. Well, I put the right keyword back and my cow is doing $50 again.

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