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Old 02-06-2007, 08:54 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by oxford11
Appologies if this has been posted before... In the future I would like to serve up a mobi compliant site to mobiles and a full blown site to users on a PC. What would I need to do? Also, the languages going to be used are asp and vbscript. Will these scripts if run server side, still produce the results I would like to display on a mobile. Ex. search function. Someone searches for something on my mobile site, that data is passed to my asp search page and then sent back to the mobile? Am I going to run into a one way dead street?... Am I trying to staple jello to a tree?
That is the role of WURFL, but it won't help you with the jello
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Though I will continue with my attempt to one day staple jello to a tree, because I'm persistent or an idiot(no feedback please), what's the best source for wurl brush up or refresher reading.

Scandiman wrote:That is the role of WURFL, but it won't help you with the jello

Scandi... where's the positive thinking on my jello problem
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Originally Posted by oxford11
Though I will continue with my attempt to one day staple jello to a tree, because I'm persistent or an idiot(no feedback please), what's the best source for wurl brush up or refresher reading.
http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ . Don't know if it's the best.
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Originally Posted by ginggang
http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ . Don't know if it's the best.
Ok... after reading wurfl documentation, i'm not convinced. I was looking for something more along the lines of the following....
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/346449-wap-2-0-development-howto-guide.html

Using the http_user_agent detect if the connection is coming from a pc or mobile. Now I think that it would make sense to detect a pc browser because there are less of them compared to mobile phones. If its a pc, redirect them... if it's a mobile do nothing and display a .mobi compliant site.

and I need to do this in an asp/vbscript environment... any help greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by oxford11
Ok... after reading wurfl documentation, i'm not convinced. I was looking for something more along the lines of the following....

Using the http_user_agent detect if the connection is coming from a pc or mobile. Now I think that it would make sense to detect a pc browser because there are less of them compared to mobile phones. If its a pc, redirect them... if it's a mobile do nothing and display a .mobi compliant site.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449

and I need to do this in an asp/vbscript environment... any help greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:58 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Great Codes - it helped me launch three wap sites just in a flick

Check out:
NewsOnMobile.mobi
MusicOnMobile.mobi
GamesOnMobile.mobi

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Old 02-07-2007, 11:50 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I'm getting the following error code when I click on a page link at the NewsOnMobile.mobi site:

"This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below."

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Old 02-14-2007, 12:32 AM   #83 (permalink)
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.mobi is unnecessary, and this is why:


4x4mobile.com explains it.

One: If we believe that a domain should be as short as possible, then the counting should go over SLD+TLD= total characters.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
Two: Most mobile browsers seem to work fine with W3 HTML 4.01. Why then bother with WAP etc.?
Three: If a given phone does not display html properly, then the Opera Mobile browser is usually a solution.
Four: Internet-capable cell phones are now so cheap that it should not be option to buy one that cannot access html webs.

We try to have .com + .net + .org + .tv extensions for our domains, but we will never invest in .mobi that breaks down the principles of W3 and efficiency if we can do it short, simple and cheap with html.

Maybe, .mobi is just another invention to give registrars, appraisers and resellers some business.
We don't mind about that.
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:48 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Can anyone tell me what I need to do to remove this error that the mobi validator gives on dev.mobi

Your page does not use XHTML Mobile Profile
XHTML-MP should be used as the default markup for your pages. Use of XHTML-MP ensures that your pages will work on the widest variety of mobile devices as well as on desktop browsers. The following graph shows how XHTML-MP is supported by the overwhelming majority of mobile browsers.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
PASS near line 0, col 0
Doctype correctly specified as:
-//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN
FAIL near line 0, col 0
Your page does not validate against -//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN


I see a lot of sites fail on it but I would like to know how to fix it.
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see my sig for a starter template (I sold www.muf.mobi so not sure how long the template will be on that address but for now it is still pointed to my servers.)

you can then modify the template 1 step at a time till you get what you want.
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:47 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Deleted
see my sig for a starter template (I sold www.muf.mobi so not sure how long the template will be on that address but for now it is still pointed to my servers.)

you can then modify the template 1 step at a time till you get what you want.
Does the same thing..trying to figure out what is going on.

Why would this happen ?. Just taking your code straight and it fails.No matter what I do my site fails on this. How should I be saving your code ?. Something I am doing wrong ?
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Are 3gp and mp4 the only video formats for cellphones? I wanted to ask at dev.mobi but that place is abandoned and spam-packed!
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Are 3gp and mp4 the only video formats for cellphones? I wanted to ask at dev.mobi but that place is abandoned and spam-packed!
3GP, 3G2 (3gpp) and MPEG4 (.mp4) are the most typical but it would depend on the phone / pda. Some are able to play mpeg1 / AVI/MP4 / WMV and a lot more. Thankfully even adobe's flash is coming to mobile http://www.beet.tv/2007/02/adobes_flash_vi.html
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Originally Posted by ginggang
Can anyone tell me what I need to do to remove this error that the mobi validator gives on dev.mobi

Your page does not use XHTML Mobile Profile
XHTML-MP should be used as the default markup for your pages. Use of XHTML-MP ensures that your pages will work on the widest variety of mobile devices as well as on desktop browsers. The following graph shows how XHTML-MP is supported by the overwhelming majority of mobile browsers.
PASS near line 0, col 0
Doctype correctly specified as:
-//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN
FAIL near line 0, col 0
Your page does not validate against -//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN


I see a lot of sites fail on it but I would like to know how to fix it.
The report fails even against this

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD XHTML Mobile 1.0//EN" "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/xhtml-mobile10.dtd">
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<html>
<BODY>
test
</BODY>
</HTML>

Can any tell me what the problem is ? Driving me nuts.
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You have two opening <html> tags and you have tags in capital letters. There are also no head and title tags.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:57 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Caution Why so complicated? Paradigm shift -> http://W2.ms


I have a Cpanel server, so all my domains are accessible both with and without "www". There is no .mobi necesary for that. Domains for mobiles are simple W3 validated html 4.01.
My email is redirected to my vodafone account, so I read it all over the world.
Also, if domainers think that shorter is better, then two-character TLD's are worth much more than three and four character extensions.
There is a paradigm shift taking place: LL.mobi and LL.info may be just as handy to remember and to type in as LL.ms and LLLL.ms. Since there are more dictionary words under LLLL than under LL, mobi will not last long. IMHO the current rush for short CC domains is allready taking place.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
I hope for all .mobi investors that I'm wrong. As for me, I stepped in the .ms business. Yes: W2.ms.
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^^ What does that have to do with anything being discussed in this thread?
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I have a Cpanel server, so all my domains are accessible both with and without "www". There is no .mobi necesary for that. Domains for mobiles are simple W3 validated html 4.01.
My email is redirected to my vodafone account, so I read it all over the world.
Also, if domainers think that shorter is better, then two-character TLD's are worth much more than three and four character extensions.
There is a paradigm shift taking place: LL.mobi and LL.info may be just as handy to remember and to type in as LL.ms and LLLL.ms. Since there are more dictionary words under LLLL than under LL, mobi will not last long. IMHO the current rush for short CC domains is allready taking place.
I hope for all .mobi investors that I'm wrong. As for me, I stepped in the .ms business. Yes: W2.ms.
what the heck are you trying to say ?
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Elsewhere, in this thread:
"In working with the MOBI emulator, it appears that none of the popular email programs work properly. Gmail, Hotmail, and Yahoo mail. Gmail won't even successfully log you in. Hotmail and Yahoo Mail will let you view your inbox. But when composing an email, you can enter an email address and subject, but are not allowed to enter text in the body of the message (most important).
Has anyone else noticed this? If you'd like to try them out ..."

For the rest, I see lots of trouble about programming.
Why make it so complicated when simple W3 html works fine on all phones?

Or, is it only allowed to prize .mobi into heaven?
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Originally Posted by CharlieA
You have two opening <html> tags and you have tags in capital letters. There are also no head and title tags.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
Made those changes. Still fails against the mobi site checker.

http://southamptoncasino.mobi is the site in question.
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Made those changes. Still fails against the mobi site checker.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
http://southamptoncasino.mobi is the site in question.
I'm no expert but one of my sites scores 4 out of 5 and my coding is different at the top:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>

Another of my sites developed using mobisitegalore.com and scores 5 out of 5 has this coding at the top:

<?xml version="1.0" ?>

You have:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>

Try that. Also I had a problem with my one site not being viewable (I saved as a .html file instead of .xhtml file) and I contacted support at mobisitegalore.com and this was their reply (I see you have some .html pages in your index)
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Issue: Your website is serving a HTML page (not generated by mobiSiteGalore) when user tries just the domain name. It is serving mobiSiteGalore generated pages only when the domain name is followed by index.xhtml (Example: sitename.mobi/index.xhtml). Additionally, the site is not browsable with IE browser.

Solution: Please add the below directives to your Apache httpd.conf or .htaccess file and remove the HTML pages not suitable for Mobile devices. If you are not sure how to do this, please get in touch with your web host.

AddType text/html .xhtml
DirectoryIndex index.xhtml

For clarifications or further details, please visit http://forums.mobisitegalore.com/.
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Originally Posted by ginggang
Made those changes. Still fails against the mobi site checker.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449

http://southamptoncasino.mobi is the site in question.
The code as it is now is fine. Save it as a .htm file and see if you validate.
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Originally Posted by CharlieA
The code as it is now is fine. Save it as a .htm file and see if you validate.
Still fails on Your page does not use XHTML Mobile Profile. The other failures and warnings can be sorted but.

I've emailed mobi tld directly on this now to see if they can tell me why it fails.

EDIT Well I tried to email them but their contact email on teh page for developer@mtld.mobi bounces, class

EDIT 2 : Got it working. The first failure was linked to the invalid markup....now got my template for a 5/5 at last. Thanks for the replies....
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i also want to develop a mobi site....
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Why no other recent links in here? Perhaps we should start putting Magazine Articles and Press Release links in here to keep all late breaking info in one place. Sure would beat trying to scrounge through all of these posts looking for the latest news. We have this as a sticky so lets use it. What do you think?

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