I think you can use frames!

newton · 10-29-2006, 10:19 PM

Yes they can stream videos but the bandwidth required would be fairly expensive to surf for this, best way is to download the videos you want with dsl and then convert them to the media required then transfer them to the phone via your usb cable.

Mr. Deleted · 10-30-2006, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by gou

It seems to be working...

not here

Infinity · 10-31-2006, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by tee

According to the switch on developers guide, if you are not in compliance with the three mandatory rules (valid code/format, no frames and able to resolve without www), you will be given 2 notices over a 2 month period by your registrar. Then the registry may try to contact you directly. If that fails, the name goes into a hold and will not resolve. You then must make a compliant site to resolve again. The name is not deleted, it is just held until there is compliance.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/346449-wap-2-0-development-howto-guide.html

They basically give you two months to get it right (once notice is given) and even after that, you can still make a compliant site and get back up.

I have heard they will be launching their own versions of tools and more development articles soon - hopefully this will be more helpful for all of us.

Before in the document one of the rules was no frames. But now, in the mtld.mobi document it says the following:

4.1.3 Use of Frames
[dotMobi] Do not use frames (standard or inline) unless the target client is known to support them

http://pc.mtld.mobi/documents/dotmob...er_Guide3.html

Notice the words "in case the target client is known to support them"
All the latest PDAs and windows mobile (from my treo 700W) are known to show frames now, so the "target client supports them" in this case and my subsequent interpretation now is its ok to use frames. It is just that the current windows mobile does not support the Iframe tag (and Java yet, but thats another issue soon to be resolved i guess )

Regards,

-db- · 10-31-2006, 12:50 PM

What about video games, and movies that are served up from your site?

How does their file format effect the site being 'valid' .Mobi?

How do they effect Xhtml?

I remember having difficulty getting html pages to pass code compliant because of 'flash' game files (etc.) and assume this is going to be just as difficult. I've never worked with Xhtml though.

iNod · 10-31-2006, 03:26 PM

Flash is supported by a few Verizon phones see (http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...06Verizon.html)
Other than that, flash has yet to be put in phones (in the mainstream, most don't have flash enabled phones.)

The fileformat as far as I have tested does not greatly affect phone usage (a .php will process just like any other would)

I find that XHTML is more compatiable with Mobiles because of the development that phones are XML/WAP so XML HTML works best. If you are not developing in HTML.

- Steve

Mr. Deleted · 11-01-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Deleted

http://emulator.mtld.mobi/emulator.p...lator=sonyK750

Google.mobi is not working on a Sony? Interesting...

As for my site, I just tested Muf.mobi, and it too is not working on either one, so I guess I don't know what I am supposed to do...

I fixed it so that the page shows now, but the htmlgear.com code is not working...

Ben42 · 11-01-2006, 06:43 PM

There really needs to be a standard that any mWare can run on any phone, but it may be a long way off. How far are we from being able to develop mware downloads for users? Say someone created a game, could you even sell it? Paypal for phones?

I think the mobile companies will have a lot to say how this stuff pans out.

iNod · 11-01-2006, 08:13 PM

Paypal for phones will come with popularity.

As for the games, yes.. Games for cell phones is already a $100 Million dollar business. EA Games has brought in over $100 Million on there Mobile Video Games.

- Steve

Carlton · 11-03-2006, 06:15 PM

In working with the MOBI emulator, it appears that none of the popular email programs work properly. Gmail, Hotmail, and Yahoo mail. Gmail won't even successfully log you in. Hotmail and Yahoo Mail will let you view your inbox. But when composing an email, you can enter an email address and subject, but are not allowed to enter text in the body of the message (most important).

Has anyone else noticed this? If you'd like to try them out ...

Emulator Gmail
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
Emulator Hotmail ... Choose Mail and then "next" to log into Hotmail
Emulator Yahoo Mail ... Choose Mail and log in

If anyone tries this, I would appreciate your input. I don't know if these problems are confined to the Emulator only or can be duplicated on others' cell phones.

Jo · 11-03-2006, 06:41 PM

I have made a VERY simple .mobi template for any of you to use:

http://www.kerrij.com/mobitemplate.html

Use "View Source" in your browser to see the html, open in Notepad, save as index.html in your chosen file folder, right click and save the logo.jpg if you want to use it also.

Cheers!

hedgefund · 11-03-2006, 07:39 PM

Hi,

I am actively looking for a mobi version of web mail package. Any recommendation is welcome. If I cannot find one, I may have to contract someone to develop it for me.

Thanks

HF

Mr. Deleted · 11-04-2006, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrijo

I have made a VERY simple .mobi template for any of you to use:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449

http://www.kerrij.com/mobitemplate.html

Use "View Source" in your browser to see the html, open in Notepad, save as index.html in your chosen file folder, right click and save the logo.jpg if you want to use it also.

Cheers!

thanks, I just used those on my 2 .mobis (1 I reged this morning), Muf and Molt.

I could give you a code to make it easier to copy for the users here... hold on, I will go find it...

http://www.code.muf.mobi

Jo · 11-04-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Deleted

thanks, I just used those on my 2 .mobis (1 I reged this morning), Muf and Molt.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449

I could give you a code to make it easier to copy for the users here... hold on, I will go find it...

http://www.code.muf.mobi

Excellent! Thanks for the easier copy and paste. Glad someone could put it to use.

Mr. Deleted · 11-04-2006, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrijo

Excellent! Thanks for the easier copy and paste. Glad someone could put it to use.

Note, people can also edit it on that window before pasteing it into their notepad.

newton · 11-04-2006, 03:12 PM

I signed up with www.admob.com and have sorted out some adverts for mobile sites now, its a pretty good system and easy to use. There is a lot of interest from companies who bid on adverts, that go on your mobile site, and I was fairly impressed

The thing that was initially throwing me was changing the extension of the files to .php instead of .html (or .xhtml) so I could place their code within the pages, but it works perfectly.

Damion · 11-04-2006, 03:27 PM

Thanks man, nice to see there is an option to monetize .mobi sites!

newton · 11-04-2006, 03:38 PM

Most welcome Damion, it was just a matter of time, and I am sure this is just the start

Mr. Deleted · 11-04-2006, 06:07 PM

I put them on my sites, but I then checked it on their own checker, and their own site did not work, but my site did, but when I checked it in the checker at mltd, it worked.

http://o2-external.waprunner.wap3.ne...&runmode=popup click on "great mobile sites"

Quote:

CONNECTION ERROR:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Couldn\'t resolve host \'output_links.php\'

Jo · 11-05-2006, 09:12 AM

Godaddy uses Website Tonight free with your .mobi domain purchase. I found it limited in use and too much whitespace between header and footer. I contacted support and they said there is nothing they could do about that. It is however really easy to use and good for those who don't want to spend a lot of time figuring out how to develope on their own.

Bodhi · 11-05-2006, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ben42

mWare

Hmmm... are you trying to brand mware? Nice one, hope you can and that you do well with mware.mobi!

Jo · 11-07-2006, 07:05 PM

Does anyone know how to add a message board, chat or a tagboard to a mobi site? Has anyone tried?

Ben42 · 11-07-2006, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by neobodhi

Hmmm... are you trying to brand mware? Nice one, hope you can and that you do well with mware.mobi!

Feel free to use it! Please!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449

It's all mWare!

Originally Posted by Kerrijo

Does anyone know how to add a message board, chat or a tagboard to a mobi site? Has anyone tried?

I haven't seen any mWare that does that, but it would be cool to have easily postable message boards on my phone.

newton · 11-08-2006, 01:08 AM

You should be able to push xml/rss feeds straight to a mobile, there are 3rd party utils as well for the end user like http://www.mobilerss.net/ and many others which allow you to sync with your mobile the feeds you require. Since Vbulletin has a pda version then it is possible to read these forums directly if you know the url and they publish the pda/archive versions. It should be something like http://www.domain.com/archive/index.php/

SledDog · 11-10-2006, 10:14 PM

Here is a great tutorial if anybody is interested. Plenty of code examples are given in the WML tutorial to help you understand the concepts and techniques.

I found some templates that helped me get some simple pages up quickly.

http://www.developershome.com/wap/wml/

Jo · 11-11-2006, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by newton

You should be able to push xml/rss feeds straight to a mobile, there are 3rd party utils as well for the end user like http://www.mobilerss.net/ and many others which allow you to sync with your mobile the feeds you require. Since Vbulletin has a pda version then it is possible to read these forums directly if you know the url and they publish the pda/archive versions. It should be something like http://www.domain.com/archive/index.php/

That's neat. But how do you go about putting the RSS feeds onto a site? I have no idea if someone could share, I have a site that would be good with this.

10-29-2006, 10:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
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-db- NamePros Inc. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 5,618	What about video games, and movies that are served up from your site? How does their file format effect the site being 'valid' .Mobi? How do they effect Xhtml? I remember having difficulty getting html pages to pass code compliant because of 'flash' game files (etc.) and assume this is going to be just as difficult. I've never worked with Xhtml though. __________________ I support Children: Wish.org \| MissingKids.com I support Animals: SPCA.org \| SPCA.com Jeff \| Armstrong \| Grrilla - First 3 inductees into NamePro's Hall-Of-Fame.

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iNod Eating Pie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272	Flash is supported by a few Verizon phones see (http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pres...06Verizon.html) Other than that, flash has yet to be put in phones (in the mainstream, most don't have flash enabled phones.) The fileformat as far as I have tested does not greatly affect phone usage (a .php will process just like any other would) I find that XHTML is more compatiable with Mobiles because of the development that phones are XML/WAP so XML HTML works best. If you are not developing in HTML. - Steve __________________ I feel old.

11-01-2006, 06:43 PM	#32 (permalink)
Ben42 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 2,072	There really needs to be a standard that any mWare can run on any phone, but it may be a long way off. How far are we from being able to develop mware downloads for users? Say someone created a game, could you even sell it? Paypal for phones? I think the mobile companies will have a lot to say how this stuff pans out. __________________ Good Bands \| Tablet Protectors \| SAIL \| Which Toner? \| 3d Projecting

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I think you can use frames!

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11-03-2006, 06:15 PM	#34 (permalink)
Carlton Internet Real Estate Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,198	MOBI Emulator Question In working with the MOBI emulator, it appears that none of the popular email programs work properly. Gmail, Hotmail, and Yahoo mail. Gmail won't even successfully log you in. Hotmail and Yahoo Mail will let you view your inbox. But when composing an email, you can enter an email address and subject, but are not allowed to enter text in the body of the message (most important). Has anyone else noticed this? If you'd like to try them out ... Emulator Gmail ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=346449 Emulator Hotmail ... Choose Mail and then "next" to log into Hotmail Emulator Yahoo Mail ... Choose Mail and log in If anyone tries this, I would appreciate your input. I don't know if these problems are confined to the Emulator only or can be duplicated on others' cell phones. __________________ PremiumDomains.biz -> BLOG \| Charlotte.US \| Manhattan.mobi \| NewYorkCity.biz \| Detroit.US \| Miami.biz \| NorthCarolina.info \| California.biz

11-03-2006, 06:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
Jo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,225	I have made a VERY simple .mobi template for any of you to use: http://www.kerrij.com/mobitemplate.html Use "View Source" in your browser to see the html, open in Notepad, save as index.html in your chosen file folder, right click and save the logo.jpg if you want to use it also. Cheers!

11-03-2006, 07:39 PM	#36 (permalink)
hedgefund NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608	Looking for Mobi version of Web Mail Hi, I am actively looking for a mobi version of web mail package. Any recommendation is welcome. If I cannot find one, I may have to contract someone to develop it for me. Thanks HF

11-04-2006, 03:12 PM	#40 (permalink)
newton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,433	I signed up with www.admob.com and have sorted out some adverts for mobile sites now, its a pretty good system and easy to use. There is a lot of interest from companies who bid on adverts, that go on your mobile site, and I was fairly impressed The thing that was initially throwing me was changing the extension of the files to .php instead of .html (or .xhtml) so I could place their code within the pages, but it works perfectly. __________________ The speed of light is faster than sound that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouths

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Damion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,719	Thanks man, nice to see there is an option to monetize .mobi sites! __________________ ★★★ The 5 Minute Deployment Tool Every Domainer Should Have In Their Domaining Toolbox! ★★★ DomainersTheme.com

11-04-2006, 03:38 PM	#42 (permalink)
newton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,433	Most welcome Damion, it was just a matter of time, and I am sure this is just the start __________________ The speed of light is faster than sound that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouths

11-05-2006, 09:12 AM	#44 (permalink)
Jo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,225	Godaddy uses Website Tonight free with your .mobi domain purchase. I found it limited in use and too much whitespace between header and footer. I contacted support and they said there is nothing they could do about that. It is however really easy to use and good for those who don't want to spend a lot of time figuring out how to develope on their own.

11-07-2006, 07:05 PM	#46 (permalink)
Jo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,225	Does anyone know how to add a message board, chat or a tagboard to a mobi site? Has anyone tried?

11-08-2006, 01:08 AM	#48 (permalink)
newton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,433	You should be able to push xml/rss feeds straight to a mobile, there are 3rd party utils as well for the end user like http://www.mobilerss.net/ and many others which allow you to sync with your mobile the feeds you require. Since Vbulletin has a pda version then it is possible to read these forums directly if you know the url and they publish the pda/archive versions. It should be something like http://www.domain.com/archive/index.php/ __________________ The speed of light is faster than sound that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouths

11-10-2006, 10:14 PM	#49 (permalink)
SledDog New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4	Here is a great tutorial if anybody is interested. Plenty of code examples are given in the WML tutorial to help you understand the concepts and techniques. I found some templates that helped me get some simple pages up quickly. http://www.developershome.com/wap/wml/

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