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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Good job. I miss the old logo which was more distinctive than the circle and arrow that replaced it, and the favicon is missing. I did not realise you had so many tools available, such as the IDN converter tool.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thanks Cera and Jido! Here are the results so far for the prediction game. The results confirm again that EstiBot is a reasonably reliable ballpark appraiser. The single appraisal tool is performing up to par. However, I am not happy with the performance of the bulk tool. It needs a lot more development. It's just a resource hog, that's why it's so limited in scope. I can make it better, I just need more (expensive) server resources. So, the results. Here is a direct comparison to the single appraisal tool (my primary tool). The GreatDomains.com auction results are from http://www.NameBio.com. For those who read this for the first time, the predictions were posted here before the auction. I don't know how to post a table here, so here's how to read: Domain EstiBot Prediction Auction close tees.com 120,000 252,500 Somewhat underestimated 49.com 140,000 91,500 Slightly overestimated - nice buy? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/for-sale-advertising-board/332276-pleased-present-public-beta-automatic-appraisals.html industrialSupplies.com 56,000 14,500 Somewhat overestimated uoo.com 9,400 12,845 right ballpark - Slightly under 647.com 18,000 9,999 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated puu.com 14,000 9,100 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated uul.com 9,800 9,100 Very close ojj.com 7,500 8600 Very close though.com 53,000 7950 Overestimated seasonPasses.com 2,200 6900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated zmy.com 6,900 6100 Very close specialReport.com 41,000 5100 Overestimated, nice buy, considering the iReport.com sale virginIslands.net 1,500 4900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated directDeposits.com 5,400 2550 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated sexuality.net 34,000 2050 Overestimated, but good buy summerLeague.com 5,600 1950 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated weak.com 4,300 1351 right ballpark - Somewhat overestiated freshPoultry.com 400 511 Very close tabloidPhotos.com 170 510 Right ballpark ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276 doners.net 20 257 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated telephoneService.com 1,000 210 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated moans.net 1,400 160 Somewhat overestimated leadOffHitter.com 790 115 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated yourGenealogy.com 90 100 very close
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | So - no comment on this result?? When I publish the results of objective testing with a larger number of names, no one says anything.. Well, what do you think? Good? Bad? Not too shabby for an automated system? Thanks- Esa
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Estibot goes AJAX! Pleased to present the newest tool: Super fast overture suggestion tool here: http://estibot.com/overture.php PS: You can also now see a sample of comparable domain sale prices from the Namebio database in the appraisal results screen.
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Oh well.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Strange, which browser are you using? Have you got Javascript enabled? I have tested it and found it working with the following systems: Mac OS X Firefox Mac OS X Safari Windows XP Firefox Windows XP Internet Explorer 6 PS: I removed the word 'suggestions' it was of course not intended to mislead anyone. Once you get it to work you will see what it was for. The ads need to be there because running estibot is expensive. You can always donate a few bucks regularly every month to help me cover the costs and reduce the number of ads
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ah I have nothing against ads at all. Just that no results was appearing for me and I only saw the ads below the word 'suggestions' and felt that it was kinda misleading. ![]() I'm on Windows, Opera browser, javascript enabled.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Opera.... that's the only major browser I haven't tested ![]() Let me see if I can download that to my windows platform and test it! OK: I tested it with Opera/9.25 US English in Windows XP. It works fine. Try this link: http://www.objectgraph.com/dictionary/ Just to see if Ajax works on your system
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Anybody else try it? Work ok? Whaddya think of it?
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Single dictionary words look overestimated at the moment, also telephoneService.com (right ballpark?) The tool is quite good! WRT the bulk tools: the bulk Overture is nice. Sometimes the bulk appraisal returns no results! Ie. the list of appraised domains is empty. Weird.
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276 Yes the Bulk appraisal tool is very preliminary, and very limited. Don't expect too much from it.... Anyone else try the new Ajax tool yet? http://estibot.com/overture.php
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[/QUOTE] Thanks for the info! Somewhat underestimated then. This info helps me optimize the algo further- Thanks-
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If $200 vs $1,000 is not the same ballpark, then we might as well stop trying to appraise altogether. That's very little difference. No one, machine or human, can actually tell whether a domain will be sold at $200 or $10,000, let alone $200 or $1,000 all depends on the seller and buyer. What one can do, and what a machine can also do, is give a rough ballpark estimate of the probable neighborhood of value. $200 basically means $xx - $x,xxx depending on buyer/seller motivation and assets $5,000 means $xxx - $xx,xxx That's the way it is....it's just a pointer. Even so, it is surprisingly close in many cases. As a general comment (not talking about you guys), I've noticed that folks tend to have completely unrealistic expectations and a fantastical idea of what an autoappraiser might be capable of doing. I've worked at this quite a bit and I know it'll be hard to make it significantly better. If you see one, let me know
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276 I am interested in the one word market, and sometimes I see names that Estibot likes a lot, that are like that. Perhaps you could correlate with a business directory or with the names of the Alexia top websites. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | OK- it's time for another GreatDomains auction prediction. Here are the Estibot predictions for the auction. These numbers are from my new bulk too, which is not live yet ,but it gives exactly the same results as the single-domain tool. Here we go! eggs.com 180000 backhoe.com 180000 equipment.com 160000 los.com 160000 handhelds.com 160000 mobilecomputing.com 160000 cellulitis.com 150000 pda.net 140000 samuraiswords.com 120000 harlot.com 58000 schematics.com 56000 bobbleheads.com 53000 telephone.net 53000 autograph.com 50000 appartment.com 49000 boston.net 42000 cassettes.com 39000 ddp.com 36000 widows.com 34000 valleys.com 34000 hostile.com 30000 ugly.net 30000 trier.com 27000 telling.com 26000 coriander.com 26000 britain.net 26000 countrywestern.com 25000 pox.com 24000 delegates.com 22000 runningman.com 20000 romanticmovies.com 20000 coworker.com 18000 table.net 18000 fixedmortgages.com 14000 swing.net 14000 inhalers.com 14000 matron.com 12000 dvdburner.com 12000 diamondclub.com 11000 handheld.net 11000 adjustablemortgage.com 9900 xws.com 9700 pizzashop.com 9600 mideast.com 8300 digitalvideos.com 7700 vhs.net 7500 wfz.com 7000 zty.com 6900 mlk.net 6000 invents.com 5100 cremes.com 4900 adjustablemortgages.com 4700 perceptible.com 4600 receiver.net 4300 sketchartists.com 3900 entailed.com 3600 wintry.com 2700 relapsed.com 2500 lurching.com 1600 gaywedding.com 1100 letmego.com 1100 infatigable.com 1000 tyc.net 890 gaj.net 860 leatherchairs.net 840 rigs.net 830 purify.net 720 secretingredients.com 620 oboes.net 560 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276 persecute.net 540 normalities.com 450 imails.com 210 dvdburners.net 2200 rvtrailer.com 7500 hushes.net 100 istockoption.com 100 cdburners.net 880 canadianflights.com 8300 investigateonline.com 1800 greathangouts.com 40 californianvineyards.com 20 freesavings.net reg fee
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Here, then are the results of the latest prediction game. Ballpark valuation was successful in most cases - there is a group of names that estibot overestimated, but of course, those were reseller sales, so the Estibot valuation is closer to end user price for these names. Blue=estibot prediction (posted above BEFORE the auction), green=greatdomains auction close eggs.com 180,000 112,500 appartment.com 49,000 31,000 bobbleheads.com 53,000 29,112 ddp.com 36,000 19,500 invents.com 5,100 16,500 gaywedding.com 1,100 10,100 xws.com 9,700 9,078 wfz.com 7,000 9,078 zty.com 6,900 6,100 relapsed.com 2,500 2,084 letmego.com 1,100 1,885 rigs.net 830 1,850 leatherchairs.net 840 1,050 purify.net 720 1,045 entailed.com 3,600 772 gaj.net 860 750 istockoption.com 100 575 dvdburners.net 2,200 510 perceptible.com 4,600 500 lurching.com 1,600 218 greathangouts.com 40 166 cdburners.net 880 111 infatigable.com 1,000 80 freesavings.net reg fee 80 persecute.net 540 70 Here is the group that estibot overestimated. valleys.com 34,000 5,300 coriander.com 26,000 5,300 coworker.com 18,000 5,100 harlot.com 58,000 4,998 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276 romanticmovies.com 20,000 4,993 telling.com 26,000 3,600 runningman.com 20,000 3,000 swing.net 14,000 2,900 ugly.net 30,000 2,750
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Finished cleaning up the design today. Added a navigation bar and reduced clutter. Hope you like it.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Some big news. I've launched Estibot Pro, a paid subscription-based suite of powerful domaining tools. I had to do something because I was running the service at a constant loss, and I've got a mortgage to pay. I am hoping to get enough subscriptions to fund a new dedicated server, which will enable me to produce even better and more powerful tools for domainers. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276 I am also going to stop these updates here. I have a feeling not many people read this thread, so I am going to start a blog on estibot.com. Stay tuned for the announcement. All those users who have made donations for Estibot in the past are eligible for free subscriptions. Please give me a few days to get things sorted out. NamePros will always be Estibot's second home, the #1 domaining forum. I will be hanging out here on Namepros, please PM me whenever you need to talk to me directly. Thank you all for your support. -Esa
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Nice! Estibot is a great tool, thanks for your work on it.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thanks Jido- I am going to wrap it up for this thread now. My blog is now live, and I will be posting these announcements there from now on. Please go to http://estibot.com/blog/ for updates Thanks all! -Esa
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | yeah thanks, josh, for all the time and effort you have put into, and continue to put into, estibot!! the site keeps looking and performing better & better! goodbye (here, that is) and i wish you all the best with it! denver |
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