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Here are the results so far for the prediction game. The results confirm again that EstiBot is a reasonably reliable ballpark appraiser. The single appraisal tool is performing up to par.
However, I am not happy with the performance of the bulk tool. It needs a lot more development. It's just a resource hog, that's why it's so limited in scope. I can make it better, I just need more (expensive) server resources.
So, the results. Here is a direct comparison to the single appraisal tool (my primary tool). The GreatDomains.com auction results are from http://www.NameBio.com. For those who read this for the first time, the predictions were posted here before the auction.
I don't know how to post a table here, so here's how to read: Domain EstiBot Prediction Auction close
tees.com 120,000 252,500 Somewhat underestimated
49.com 140,000 91,500 Slightly overestimated - nice buy?
industrialSupplies.com 56,000 14,500 Somewhat overestimated
uoo.com 9,400 12,845 right ballpark - Slightly under
647.com 18,000 9,999 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
puu.com 14,000 9,100 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
uul.com 9,800 9,100 Very close
ojj.com 7,500 8600 Very close
though.com 53,000 7950 Overestimated
seasonPasses.com 2,200 6900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
zmy.com 6,900 6100 Very close
specialReport.com 41,000 5100 Overestimated, nice buy, considering the iReport.com sale
virginIslands.net 1,500 4900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
directDeposits.com 5,400 2550 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
sexuality.net 34,000 2050 Overestimated, but good buy
summerLeague.com 5,600 1950 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
weak.com 4,300 1351 right ballpark - Somewhat overestiated
freshPoultry.com 400 511 Very close
tabloidPhotos.com 170 510 Right ballpark
doners.net 20 257 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
telephoneService.com 1,000 210 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
moans.net 1,400 160 Somewhat overestimated
leadOffHitter.com 790 115 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
yourGenealogy.com 90 100 very close
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So - no comment on this result?? When I publish the results of objective testing with a larger number of names, no one says anything..
Well, what do you think? Good? Bad? Not too shabby for an automated system?
Thanks-
Esa
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PS: You can also now see a sample of comparable domain sale prices from the Namebio database in the appraisal results screen.
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Not working for me, no results appeared at all and the ads placed right under the 'Suggestions:' will mislead people into thinking those were the results.
Strange, which browser are you using? Have you got Javascript enabled?
I have tested it and found it working with the following systems:
Mac OS X Firefox
Mac OS X Safari
Windows XP Firefox
Windows XP Internet Explorer 6
PS: I removed the word 'suggestions' it was of course not intended to mislead anyone. Once you get it to work you will see what it was for.
The ads need to be there because running estibot is expensive. You can always donate a few bucks regularly every month to help me cover the costs and reduce the number of ads
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Ah I have nothing against ads at all. Just that no results was appearing for me and I only saw the ads below the word 'suggestions' and felt that it was kinda misleading.
I'm on Windows, Opera browser, javascript enabled.
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Last edited by estibot.com : 02-03-2008 at 04:47 AM.
Anybody else try it? Work ok? Whaddya think of it?
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Single dictionary words look overestimated at the moment, also telephoneService.com (right ballpark?)
The tool is quite good!
WRT the bulk tools: the bulk Overture is nice. Sometimes the bulk appraisal returns no results! Ie. the list of appraised domains is empty. Weird.
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Thanks jido. I agree about the single dictionaries (except tees of course). There is a certain type of dictionaries that's causing me some trouble. Working on it.
Yes the Bulk appraisal tool is very preliminary, and very limited. Don't expect too much from it....
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Thanks for the info! Somewhat underestimated then.
This info helps me optimize the algo further-
Thanks-
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Yeah, $200 vs $1,000 is the same ballpark...Domains can sell for $1 or $14 million. That's a big range.
If $200 vs $1,000 is not the same ballpark, then we might as well stop trying to appraise altogether. That's very little difference.
No one, machine or human, can actually tell whether a domain will be sold at $200 or $10,000, let alone $200 or $1,000 all depends on the seller and buyer.
What one can do, and what a machine can also do, is give a rough ballpark estimate of the probable neighborhood of value.
$200 basically means $xx - $x,xxx depending on buyer/seller motivation and assets
$5,000 means $xxx - $xx,xxx
That's the way it is....it's just a pointer. Even so, it is surprisingly close in many cases.
As a general comment (not talking about you guys), I've noticed that folks tend to have completely unrealistic expectations and a fantastical idea of what an autoappraiser might be capable of doing. I've worked at this quite a bit and I know it'll be hard to make it significantly better. If you see one, let me know
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Last edited by estibot.com : 02-04-2008 at 08:48 AM.
Four one word domains is not much to base a theory on, but is the problem with these that they are -- ammm - weak names for building websites, even though they are commonly used words?
I am interested in the one word market, and sometimes I see names that Estibot likes a lot, that are like that. Perhaps you could correlate with a business directory or with the names of the Alexia top websites.
OK- it's time for another GreatDomains auction prediction.
Here are the Estibot predictions for the auction. These numbers are from my new bulk too, which is not live yet ,but it gives exactly the same results as the single-domain tool.
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Here, then are the results of the latest prediction game. Ballpark valuation was successful in most cases - there is a group of names that estibot overestimated, but of course, those were reseller sales, so the Estibot valuation is closer to end user price for these names.
Blue=estibot prediction (posted above BEFORE the auction), green=greatdomains auction close
Here is the group that estibot overestimated.
valleys.com 34,000 5,300
coriander.com 26,000 5,300
coworker.com 18,000 5,100
harlot.com 58,000 4,998
romanticmovies.com 20,000 4,993
telling.com 26,000 3,600
runningman.com 20,000 3,000
swing.net 14,000 2,900
ugly.net 30,000 2,750
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Finished cleaning up the design today. Added a navigation bar and reduced clutter. Hope you like it.
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