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Old 12-05-2007, 01:28 PM THREAD STARTER               #226 (permalink)
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Had a little hiccup today... EstiBot was giving weird appraisals for about 8 hours.

This was due to MSN API getting overheated. They have a 10,000 search limit per day and it was exceeded.

Should be fixed now. I made some changes and MSN is called now only when necessary, that should increase stability.

Anyone tried out the type-in traffic checker yet?
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Originally Posted by Josh_1
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EstiBot Type-In Traffic Checker


Enter up to 1,500 domain names, and EstiBot will find and display the domains that have Overture or Wordtracker search popularity with Extension.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/for-sale-advertising-board/332276-pleased-present-public-beta-automatic-appraisals.html

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to be honest it is weird, it keeps giving me 0 overture and wordtracker on all of my domains that are supposed to have overtures and wordtrackers...
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which ones are those? Are you sure they have extension-overture and extension-wordtracker??

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Awesome work Josh, I'll add you to my resource list at idntools, I sent you a small donation.
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Originally Posted by Josh_1
which ones are those? Are you sure they have extension-overture and extension-wordtracker??
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276

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what is extension-overture and extension-wordtracker?
I am pretty sure they have some overture and wordtracker point, but not sure about extension-overture and extension-wordtracker.

eg. I have lacus.mobi
according to estibot, it has 2950 overture/month and 785 wordtracker/day
but when I put that to traffic checker it gives me "no result found"

pretty weird, it doesnt even list my lacus.mobi.
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Originally Posted by metronome
what is extension-overture and extension-wordtracker?
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I am pretty sure they have some overture and wordtracker point, but not sure about extension-overture and extension-wordtracker.

eg. I have lacus.mobi
according to estibot, it has 2950 overture/month and 785 wordtracker/day
but when I put that to traffic checker it gives me "no result found"

pretty weird, it doesnt even list my lacus.mobi.
Overture with extension (or wordtracker with extension) is used to evaluate potential type-in traffic.

It's not the same as Overture for the keyword.

For instance, lacus.mobi has Overture (for "lacus") of 2,950 per month.

Lacus.mobi has Overture with extension (for "lacus.mobi") of zero per month.

Therefore, the Overture with extension (OVT w/ext) is zero and it is not listed in the EstiBot type-in traffic checker results, because only the ones with OVT w/ext are listed.

This means that people are unlikely to type in "lacus.mobi" in their browser and the domain is unlikely to have much type-in traffic.

This is not a surefire way of determining type-in traffic, but it's the best that's available with the current resources.

Having plenty of OVT or Wordtracker with extension usually means that there is a good chance that the domain will have direct, type-in traffic.

Lack of type-in traffic does not necessarily mean that the domain is bad. It just indicates that PPC parking for the domain is not necessarily a significantly profitable venture. The domain may still be good for other reasons.

I know that many domains that have zero "OVT w/ext" still make a good profit with PPC due to backlinks, and such type-ins that OVT / Wordtracker don't cover - most of my traffic domains have no OVT w/ext.

Therefore, the type-in traffic checker should be used as an indicator only. If the OVT w/ext is very high, it is statistically significantly indicative of a high probability of some type-in traffic. If it is zero, it is unlikely, but not impossible, that the domain has type-in traffic.

Type-in traffic is important, because if you have converting type-in traffic for a domain, the domain will be profitable. Say your domain makes $1 per month in type-in conversions. All you have to do is acquire 30,000 of such domains and your revenue will be $30,000 per month.

Needless to say, almost all such traffic domains have already been registered. Nevertheless, it's still possible to find them, especially in ccTLDs and IDN domains.

I hope I was able to answer your question

EDIT: I posted an extended answer on my blog:
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Just a notification:

Although my real name has been in my profile and title all along, many people call me Josh, which is my longtime Internet nickname (I adopted it many years ago in other forums). This has caused some degree of confusion in private correspondence.

Therefore, I've decided to drop "Josh" and start using my real name Esa and the handle "estibot.com" here on NamePros to avoid any confusion.

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I'd like to invite you to give me some feedback on this idea.

I have made some powerful versions of the EstiBot tools that I'd like to share.

One is the bulk type-in traffic checker - you could input up to 30,000 domains at a time to have it detect those with OVT w/ext or WT w/ext. It takes just a couple of minutes to analyze 30,000 domains.

The other one is a mega bulk version of the "bulk appraisal", only a little different. Again, you can enter 30,000 domains and have all of them sorted by OVT / WT / google results / google ad score / appraisal. This thing takes a bit longer to run because it needs to parse the keywords, and the keyword parser is far from perfect, but it will find the gems.

Also a bulk keyword analysis feature, where you can enter search terms / key phrases, up to 30,000 at a time, and have them display all the search data that you see on EstiBot main appraisal page - and some extras, too. AGain it only takes a couple of minutes to analyze 30,000 keywords.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276

Now, I have nowhere near the server power to make these tools public, so I'd need a separate server for these functions.

That's why I'm asking: Would you be willing to pay a little monthly fee to get access to these sort of tools, and if so, how much would you be willing to pay per month? For nearly unlimited searches, that is. You could analyze -say- 500,000 domains/keywords per day.

I would like to provide these tools for free, but due to bandwidth/CPU limits it's not possible. The current tools are free thanks to your donations and some ad income.
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Esa, I'll say that this is the biggest and the best improvement I've seen. POWERFUL!

I don't now about others, but I'd be willing to pay a monthly fee. Anywhere from $4.99 to $14.99 would be fine with me.
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Brujah- thanks, I will look at options to get you access to the mega bulks. I'm going to have to organize things a little bit first around the server, and I'll let you know by PM when they are ready for you to try out.

By the way, I have now released the Domain Extractor script for public use. You can buy a licence to use it own your own site for an unlimited time for only $29. This includes the fully functional standalone script. I'll advertise it on another thread here.

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Right... I've made a set of tools that enables me to easily isolate domains of interest from large lists. From today's drop list I isolated a bunch of LLLL.coms. I input about 50,000 domains and within a couple of minutes the system spat out this list. Here you are, LLLL.coms dropping today (from network solutions):

avjq.com
bcym.com
bpki.com
dnqj.com
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exvx.com
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Hi Esa- I ran appraisals of a couple dozen one word domains - Com, org, info and us, in late October (single name appraiser). I re-ran the same names late December. Some were down a little, some were down 50%, some were unchanged, some were up a little, some were up 100%. No discernible pattern. Overall a lot more up than down, rough estimate a gain of 20% for the two months for the group. Most of the values were in the $50 - $500 range.

Are you still changing the tool which would account for the variations? Do you think the inputs varied to that extent over two months, or ---- ahhh ---- is the domain market moving that quickly and is Estibot so subtle as to detect eddies and sub-currents within that growth??
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I think I did the last algo update between your runs. Since december there should not be any major changes. The values may change a little bit with time, and as more sales data comes in the algo will be adjusted accordingly.

Variation of about 20-30% is not significant as it's within the margin of error anyway.

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I sure hope this isn't the case...

http://blog.domaintools.com/2008/01/...eas-confirmed/ (search for estibot in the comments)

If this is true then it is very disturbing.
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It's a known fact that any whois call is vulnerable to sniffers/tasters who register domains that other users search, and then taste them for traffic. It has nothing to do with EstiBot other than that EstiBot performs a whois search with each appraisal. The "stealing" happens at the end of the whois servers, such as Network Solutions.

I do not give or sell the EstiBot searches to anyone, they are not even recorded. It would be the most idiotic thing for a webmaster to do, try to con smart domainers - especially when I work hard to make EstiBot meet the needs of domainers

Like any webmaster, I want traffic, especially repeat traffic, I want my site to be useful and have a great reputation. These goals are incompatible with abusing the searches. Domainers are smart and would abandon such a site.

I've had 3 or 4 reports of domains having been registered by someone else after they searched it on EstiBot.

Considering the 500,000 page views a month, that's not a lot. Not to mention it would still fall well within the realm of coincidence.

But yes, whois servers are compromised.
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The Bulk tool at http://estibot.com/batch.php has been updated!

You can now separate your keywords by capitalization:

Enter:
usedcars.com if you want EstiBot to attempt keyword detection
UsedCars.com if you want to define the keywords yourself

This is useful because the keyword detection routine isn't working as well as I would hope. Now you can input your list of up to 100 domain names with custom keyword definition

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I'd like to invite you to give me some feedback on this idea.

I have made some powerful versions of the EstiBot tools that I'd like to share.

One is the bulk type-in traffic checker - you could input up to 30,000 domains at a time to have it detect those with OVT w/ext or WT w/ext. It takes just a couple of minutes to analyze 30,000 domains.

The other one is a mega bulk version of the "bulk appraisal", only a little different. Again, you can enter 30,000 domains and have all of them sorted by OVT / WT / google results / google ad score / appraisal. This thing takes a bit longer to run because it needs to parse the keywords, and the keyword parser is far from perfect, but it will find the gems.

Also a bulk keyword analysis feature, where you can enter search terms / key phrases, up to 30,000 at a time, and have them display all the search data that you see on EstiBot main appraisal page - and some extras, too. AGain it only takes a couple of minutes to analyze 30,000 keywords.

Now, I have nowhere near the server power to make these tools public, so I'd need a separate server for these functions.

That's why I'm asking: Would you be willing to pay a little monthly fee to get access to these sort of tools, and if so, how much would you be willing to pay per month? For nearly unlimited searches, that is. You could analyze -say- 500,000 domains/keywords per day.

I would like to provide these tools for free, but due to bandwidth/CPU limits it's not possible. The current tools are free thanks to your donations and some ad income.
I would suggest opening a new thread for this.

I would pay about $20/year ($2/month) for the tool.

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Thanks Denis, that's important info for me.

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It's time for another brave prediction game: GreatDomains auction is going on and will be finishing tomorrow.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=332276

Here, then are the EstiBot.com predictions for the final prices.

I'm trying something new here. I have run these domains through both the single tool and the bulk tool. The appraisal given here is the range between the valuations given by single and bulk appraisals. They employ different algorithms due to the special resource requirements of the bulk tool, so they give somewhat different valuations.

I'm trying to see if this range can be used for giving a more general, more ballpark appraisal for domains. The values here represent $US. Some of the domains are priced in EUR, so we'll have to convert once the auction is over.

indian.com 320,000 - 1,000,000
49.com 52,000 - 140,000
sit.com 150,000 - 240,000
optimize.com 31,000 - 32,000
flats.com 56,000 - 68,000
ankle.com 40,000 - 63,000
w4.com 19,000 - 32,000
tees.com 92,000 - 120,000
plo.com 33,000 - 41,000
dormitory.com 18,000 - 26,000
647.com 18,000 - 24,000
puu.com 14,000 - 17,000
uul.com 2,200 - 9,800
niq.com 8,000
ojj.com 7,500
uoo.com 5,700 - 9,400
jfn.com 7,800
jln.com 7,700 - 8,700
vko.com 8.200 - 8,600
bqa.com 7,400
jyh.com 8,100
kyp.com 5,800 - 12,000
exu.com 6,800 - 10,000
ryi.com 5,000 - 13,000
synthetic.com 25,000 - 47,000
zmy.com 6,900
xws.com 5,700 - 9,900
though.com 24,000 - 53,000
wfz.com 7,000
seasonPasses.com 2,200 - 2,500
sexuality.net 34,000 - 36,000
specialReport.com 22,000 - 41,000
industrialSupplies.com 22,000 - 560,000
disgust.com 15,000 - 20,000
influential.com 11,000 - 22,000
virginIslands.net 840 - 1,500
weak.net 4,300 - 6,500
nubians.com 5,200 - 8,000
summerLeague.com 3,200 - 5,600
modems.net 4,000 - 4,400
playspace.com 1,800
directDeposits.com 1,500 - 5,400
carFinancer.com 20
notables.com 6,700 - 19,000
freshPoultry.com 400 - 1,100
tabloidPhotos.com 170 - 1,100
boticario.net 160 - 320
doners.net 20
officially.com 15,000 - 21,000
naturalismo.com 2,000 - 4,900
frenchStudent.com 450
telephoneService.net 410 - 1,000
yourGenealogy.com 90
cellists.com 3,200 - 8,100
goldRimmed.com 670 - 1,600
hiFives.com 1,100 - 2,300
interleaguePlay.com 380 - 990
leadOffHitter.com 370 - 790
moans.net 1,400 - 3,300
scoopable.com 240
smallForward.com 850 - 1,800
thirdBaseman.com 2,200 - 5,400

For the record, here are the exact appraisals from the single tool, which is still my primary system and IMO more reliable:

indian.com 320,000
49.com 140,000
sit.com 150,000
optimize.com 31,000
flats.com 56,000
ankle.com 40,000
w4.com 32,000
tees.com 120,000
plo.com 33,000
dormitory.com 18,000
647.com 18,000
puu.com 14,000
uul.com 9,800
niq.com 8,000
ojj.com 7,500
uoo.com 9,400
jfn.com 7,800
jln.com 8,700
vko.com 8,600
bqa.com 7,400
jyh.com 8,100
kyp.com 12,000
exu.com 10,000
ryi.com 13,000
synthetic.com 25,000
zmy.com 6,900
xws.com 9,900
though.com 53,000
wfz.com 7,000
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seasonPasses.com 2,200
sexuality.net 34,000
specialReport.com 41,000
industrialSupplies.com 560,000
disgust.com 15,000
influential.com 22,000
virginIslands.net 1,500
weak.net 4,300
nubians.com 5,200
summerLeague.com 5,600
modems.net 4,400
playspace.com 1,800
directDeposits.com 5,400
carFinancer.com 20
notables.com 6,700
freshPoultry.com 400
tabloidPhotos.com 170
boticario.net 160
doners.net 20
officially.com 21,000
naturalismo.com 2,000
frenchStudent.com 450
telephoneService.net 1,000
yourGenealogy.com 90
cellists.com 3,200
goldRimmed.com 670
hiFives.com 1,100
interleaguePlay.com 380
leadOffHitter.com 790
moans.net 1,400
scoopable.com 240
smallForward.com 850
thirdBaseman.com 5,400
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