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NameGuy · 07-28-2009, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by johname

Monday was the best day of this current pay period for me

me too.

**BizBot** · 07-28-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Seabass

I'm not really seeing any difference yet.....but I'm patient.

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Same here.

Donny · 07-28-2009, 12:50 PM

If you have a lot of 1 click domains, you probably will not see much of a difference. And as I mentioned a lot of the changes are currently based on US traffic, so if you have a lot of non-US traffic it will take us about 2 weeks to get everything else.

Donny

netmeg · 07-28-2009, 04:26 PM

Well now they're saying the announcement will be tomorrow.

Microsoft, Yahoo to Take on Google With Search Deal - Advertising Age - Digital

netmeg · 07-28-2009, 04:44 PM

Seems pretty clear they won't index them. Don't know on the PPC side.

Donny · 07-28-2009, 05:28 PM

Definitely going to be an interesting day tomorrow.

Donny

tonyfloyd · 07-28-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Seabass

I wonder how Microsoft feels about Yahoo's parking business and the future of it ?
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Donny recently said this earlier....."I have recently talked to Microsoft and they aren't interested in the parking world yet.".....so.....now what?

netmeg · 07-28-2009, 06:18 PM

I reckon we'll find out before too long.

I wonder what's going to happen to some of the tools, like site explorer, which is pretty good for looking at back links.

Donny · 07-28-2009, 06:47 PM

Maybe the problem was they already knew they were going to be working out a deal anyway. I do know that they give out feeds, because I've seen a few floating around, they just weren't parking feeds.

Donny

firefly · 07-28-2009, 06:57 PM

Up until your post in the Whypark thread L2, I thought that Whypark might be in trouble itself with this change possibly comming along. Now I tend to lean a bit more towards your thinking that it might be a stroke of genius.

If Bing do in fact move Whypark out of "parking page" status, that could surely provide a life boat to current Parked users that are seemingly going to get hammered in the search engines.
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Whether he saw this comming or not, Donny has seemingly pulled another rabbit out of the hat by getting involved with Whypark. My hat goes off to you Donny.

Mind you, that being said, the deal still has to go through between Bing and Yahoo.

netmeg · 07-28-2009, 07:03 PM

Given the talk in my circles tonight (which are the search circles), I'm pretty sure it's a done deal.

All the other stuff (effect on WhyPark, effect on Parked) we'll just have to see. I am definitely seeing manual reviews from MS on some of my WhyPark domains. But I have yet to find a single WP, Parked, Fab or ND parked domain in Bing.

firefly · 07-28-2009, 07:14 PM

That's the post I was referring to. Gives me a little hope.

BocaVision · 07-29-2009, 04:52 AM

Yahoo and Microsoft complete their deal --

Microsoft-Yahoo Search Deal: The Official Press Release

Varon · 07-29-2009, 05:14 AM

Bing should not be taken lightly. From my experience with them, the Micro network has become even more "stringent" than Google. What might seem awesome in terms of site indexing now, might not hold true for the future. Even as an advertiser, it's harder, "these days" to adhere to the Adcenter guidelines than Adwords.

Btw, their Adlabs is fabulous...simply fabulous and Bing is a terrific SE. It's definitely much better than Google. It's just that MSFT will have to work really hard to get people to change their home page to Bing. Because, today, people like to stick with things they are "used to" and it takes time to wean them away. But, past that, if any user tries Bing for a week, they'll most likely use Google as a 2nd alternative. As an SE, Bing has come very close to beating Google or may be the best there is.
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Originally Posted by BocaVision

Yahoo and Microsoft complete their deal --

Microsoft-Yahoo Search Deal: The Official Press Release

Wow!!

GILSAN · 07-29-2009, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by BocaVision

Yahoo and Microsoft complete their deal --

Microsoft-Yahoo Search Deal: The Official Press Release

or should I say BingHoo!

Varon · 07-29-2009, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

or should I say BingHoo!

Very appropriate Gil.

**BizBot** · 07-29-2009, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

or should I say BingHoo!

Somebody in China registered Binghoo.com on May 28, 2009.

netmeg · 07-29-2009, 07:24 AM

Yes, they've been calling it for the past week or so.

Well, we shall see what we shall see.

Meanwhile, Donny, I know you're probably very busy today, but I emailed you an issue I ran across with the bulk upload - not sure if I'm doing it wrong or it's borked.

ebatcave · 07-29-2009, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by BizBot

Somebody in China registered Binghoo.com on May 28, 2009.

Yahbing.com is available

netmeg · 07-29-2009, 07:36 AM

By the way, it's worthwhile to note that we're not going to see these changes immediately. According to the conference call/press release, the deal isn't going to be finalized until early 2010 (and you can bet that the Govt will be taking a hard look at it, probably egged on by Google); the first phase will take around six months, and they estimate 24 months before full worldwide implementation.

GILSAN · 07-29-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by ebatcave

Yahbing.com is available

Yahbing.com is already registered! At the moment I'm not too excited about this Bing/Yahoo move.
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Like Varon says it all depends if MSFT can get people to change their home page to Bing, which is not going to be easy at all. People are so used to "google" for virtually everything. I know I'm one of those.

And to quote Netmeg's words, which fit perfectly at the moment "we shall see what we shall see"

netmeg · 07-29-2009, 10:13 AM

Nobody needs to change their home page for it to make a difference.

Follow along with me here.

A good portion of Yahoo's search share came from their toolbar.

Microsoft is releasing Windows 7 in October (I have my copies pre-ordered at Amazon, and if you're planning to upgrade, I'm happy to pass you an affiliate link; it's half price if you pre-order and you don't have to pay till it ships)

Of course, Windows 7 will have a Bing toolbar. Because of anti trust issues, they have to offer the Google toolbar as well. They probably already have the Yahoo toolbar coded in there too. If the Bing toolbar is integrated *really* intelligently, I expect many people won't bother changing. Heck, a good portion won't even notice.

The people who are accustomed to using the Yahoo toolbar will pick that one and - they get Bing results.

Even some of the Google toolbar enthusiasts will probably at least try it.

So we have all the people who want to upgrade, PLUS new PCs (even in a down market) all with Windows 7 installed. Out of the three toolbars that come with, two are delivering Bing results.
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That's how I see it, anyway.

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As an addendum - if you want to see what a huge bargain Microsoft appears to be getting (courtesy of the Justice Dept who blocked the Google/Yahoo deal which contributed to Yahoo's worth falling) Danny Sullivan has made this nice chart comparing the 2008 proposed deal with the one that was signed today.

Microsoft-Yahoo Deals 2008 & 2009, Side-By-Side

GILSAN · 07-29-2009, 11:44 AM

Yahoo shareholders don't like MSFT at all. They refused an offer of over $30 a share last year and today the stock dropped almost 12% after the Bing/Yahoo deal. Its at just over $15 a share at the moment. At the end of 2005 it reached a peak of $40 a share but has been on a slide since.

kemjika11 · 07-29-2009, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

Yahoo shareholders don't like MSFT at all. They refused an offer of over $30 a share last year and today the stock dropped almost 12% after the Bing/Yahoo deal. Its at just over $15 a share at the moment. At the end of 2005 it reached a peak of $40 a share but has been on a slide since.

Hmm....if Yahoo shareholders don't like MSFT, then would they prefer to see google keep eating away at yahoo in every way? Sometimes you have to make choices, and MSFT is a beast when it comes to cash on hand. Never underestimate cash, even if you've got <30% of the search market. Anything to tame google more, or make it compete(and lose a little too) is great.

ebatcave · 07-29-2009, 01:29 PM

Has anyone tried using a frames redirect by housing the domain on your own name server and using the searchnut.com/?domain=(your domain name) to pull up the parked page? Would that get around the issue of Bing targeting parked name servers and excluding them from search? Just wondering…

07-28-2009, 12:50 PM	#8428 (permalink)
Donny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,264	If you have a lot of 1 click domains, you probably will not see much of a difference. And as I mentioned a lot of the changes are currently based on US traffic, so if you have a lot of non-US traffic it will take us about 2 weeks to get everything else. Donny __________________ Voodoo.com

07-28-2009, 04:26 PM	#8429 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Well now they're saying the announcement will be tomorrow. Microsoft, Yahoo to Take on Google With Search Deal - Advertising Age - Digital __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

07-28-2009, 04:44 PM	#8430 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Seems pretty clear they won't index them. Don't know on the PPC side. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

07-28-2009, 05:28 PM	#8431 (permalink)
Donny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,264	Definitely going to be an interesting day tomorrow. Donny __________________ Voodoo.com

07-28-2009, 06:18 PM	#8433 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	I reckon we'll find out before too long. I wonder what's going to happen to some of the tools, like site explorer, which is pretty good for looking at back links. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

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07-28-2009, 06:47 PM	#8434 (permalink)
Donny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,264	Maybe the problem was they already knew they were going to be working out a deal anyway. I do know that they give out feeds, because I've seen a few floating around, they just weren't parking feeds. Donny __________________ Voodoo.com

07-28-2009, 06:57 PM	#8435 (permalink)
firefly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Watching the hypocrisy float by Posts: 2,727 Follow @xxfireflyxx	Up until your post in the Whypark thread L2, I thought that Whypark might be in trouble itself with this change possibly comming along. Now I tend to lean a bit more towards your thinking that it might be a stroke of genius. If Bing do in fact move Whypark out of "parking page" status, that could surely provide a life boat to current Parked users that are seemingly going to get hammered in the search engines. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=326844 Whether he saw this comming or not, Donny has seemingly pulled another rabbit out of the hat by getting involved with Whypark. My hat goes off to you Donny. Mind you, that being said, the deal still has to go through between Bing and Yahoo.

07-28-2009, 07:03 PM	#8436 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Given the talk in my circles tonight (which are the search circles), I'm pretty sure it's a done deal. All the other stuff (effect on WhyPark, effect on Parked) we'll just have to see. I am definitely seeing manual reviews from MS on some of my WhyPark domains. But I have yet to find a single WP, Parked, Fab or ND parked domain in Bing. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

07-28-2009, 07:14 PM	#8437 (permalink)
firefly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Watching the hypocrisy float by Posts: 2,727 Follow @xxfireflyxx	That's the post I was referring to. Gives me a little hope.

07-29-2009, 04:52 AM	#8438 (permalink)
BocaVision NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Palm Beach Posts: 571	Yahoo and Microsoft complete their deal -- Microsoft-Yahoo Search Deal: The Official Press Release

07-29-2009, 07:24 AM	#8443 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Yes, they've been calling it for the past week or so. Well, we shall see what we shall see. Meanwhile, Donny, I know you're probably very busy today, but I emailed you an issue I ran across with the bulk upload - not sure if I'm doing it wrong or it's borked. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

07-29-2009, 07:36 AM	#8445 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	By the way, it's worthwhile to note that we're not going to see these changes immediately. According to the conference call/press release, the deal isn't going to be finalized until early 2010 (and you can bet that the Govt will be taking a hard look at it, probably egged on by Google); the first phase will take around six months, and they estimate 24 months before full worldwide implementation. __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

07-29-2009, 10:13 AM	#8447 (permalink)
netmeg Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,601	Nobody needs to change their home page for it to make a difference. Follow along with me here. A good portion of Yahoo's search share came from their toolbar. Microsoft is releasing Windows 7 in October (I have my copies pre-ordered at Amazon, and if you're planning to upgrade, I'm happy to pass you an affiliate link; it's half price if you pre-order and you don't have to pay till it ships) Of course, Windows 7 will have a Bing toolbar. Because of anti trust issues, they have to offer the Google toolbar as well. They probably already have the Yahoo toolbar coded in there too. If the Bing toolbar is integrated really intelligently, I expect many people won't bother changing. Heck, a good portion won't even notice. The people who are accustomed to using the Yahoo toolbar will pick that one and - they get Bing results. Even some of the Google toolbar enthusiasts will probably at least try it. So we have all the people who want to upgrade, PLUS new PCs (even in a down market) all with Windows 7 installed. Out of the three toolbars that come with, two are delivering Bing results. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=326844 That's how I see it, anyway. ---------- Post added at 01:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:44 PM ---------- As an addendum - if you want to see what a huge bargain Microsoft appears to be getting (courtesy of the Justice Dept who blocked the Google/Yahoo deal which contributed to Yahoo's worth falling) Danny Sullivan has made this nice chart comparing the 2008 proposed deal with the one that was signed today. Microsoft-Yahoo Deals 2008 & 2009, Side-By-Side __________________ Watching idiots online since 1985...

07-29-2009, 11:44 AM	#8448 (permalink)
GILSAN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madeira Island-Portugal Posts: 2,440	Yahoo shareholders don't like MSFT at all. They refused an offer of over $30 a share last year and today the stock dropped almost 12% after the Bing/Yahoo deal. Its at just over $15 a share at the moment. At the end of 2005 it reached a peak of $40 a share but has been on a slide since. __________________ Best Dehumidifiers \| Cristiano Ronaldo \| Cape Verde Holidays Madeira Embroidery - Discount Cruises - Pet Care

07-29-2009, 01:29 PM	#8450 (permalink)
ebatcave NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Mid-South Posts: 804	Has anyone tried using a frames redirect by housing the domain on your own name server and using the searchnut.com/?domain=(your domain name) to pull up the parked page? Would that get around the issue of Bing targeting parked name servers and excluding them from search? Just wondering…

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