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Old 10-06-2008, 12:55 AM   · #6301
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......Oh well, maybe I'll just give everybody access to the new layouts and call it a day.

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The following day, please consider if my suggestion of having multiple subpages for each domain will or will not work for Parked.

We buy expired domains. Sometimes these domains will have many backlinks linking to subpages. If we could identify the exact URL of the subpages, then we could create subpages with these exact URLs and put up unique contents for these subpages.


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Old 10-06-2008, 04:19 AM   · #6302
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So you are wanting to create content specific pages for basically 404's. I guess I just really have to see how it would work and how to build it in. I know one other company has something like this, and when we have looked into what they were doing we just couldn't see what good it would do. I still have it on my list, that's for sure.

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Old 10-06-2008, 05:08 AM   · #6303
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Originally Posted by Donny
So you are wanting to create content specific pages for basically 404's. I guess I just really have to see how it would work and how to build it in. I know one other company has something like this, and when we have looked into what they were doing we just couldn't see what good it would do. I still have it on my list, that's for sure.

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Yup, build content for currently 404's.

Backlinks are hard to come by. And if the backlinks reach 404's, then I suppose these URLs will be dropped by the searched Engines. However, if we could develop and put contents, and maybe optimize these 404's, then maybe we'd get more traffic. Also, maybe webmasters will be less inclined to remove these backlinks since the parked subpages display relevant content.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:39 AM   · #6304
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anyone know how to change the language for your parked domain? I looked through the first 24 pages and gave up
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:13 AM   · #6306
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anyone know how to change the language for your parked domain? I looked through the first 24 pages and gave up


There is no feature in Parked to set specific languages.

Use the English keyword(s) which match your domain and it should translate it into the appropriate keywords when viewed in other countries.

If you use the foreign word, quite often it will not be recognized by Yahoo..... or will not have enough advertisers behind it. I've seen exceptions though where using the foreign word does work. Generally though, you will need to use the English word.
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can someone explain me what a parking system is??
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:02 PM   · #6308
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can someone explain me what a parking system is??


Parking system: Company that facilitates putting ads on your domains that usually come from Google or Yahoo, along with templates, photos.

They take a cut of the revenue earned from the clicks on ads shown on your domains.

Google or Yahoo gets a cut, the "parking system" takes a cut, and you get a cut. All three share the advertisers payment.

Four parties are involved..... three get paid, and one (the advertiser) pays. The three share what the one pays.
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Donny, Parked is doing a fabulous job of constantly upgrading new features. I was wondering if... we could have the option of adding our own related keywords. If that is not possible, can we have a custom box which displays all available Domain Magic keywords, and then pick keywords from the box. This keyword list would be as usual based on the main root keyword.

Like for example, now, when we input a seed keyword, the Domain Magic system breaks the main Kw into 3 categories, based on which, the related keywords are further broken down. Is it possible for us to have a similar category box with all available keywords, and then pick and drag these kws into our related kw box? Plus, if we could be able to create 3 such kw groups which are custom rotated during a day or week, it would help us immensely. That way, no particular kw gets too many hits and we also have the option of having higher paying keywords in the system at all times.

I mean, right now, we add the main keyword and the parked system automatically brings up related keywords. But many of these kws, sometimes are too unrelated to the seed keyword. With a custom keyword option box, we could have totally targeted links on our domain that are totally revenue and conversion related.

I have quite a few more thoughts .. need to sit down and write them all to you.
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henniemeijer - If I tell people how to do something, 50% of the people will listen and 50% won't listen. I think we are all the same way.

For my own domains, I set the title and nothing else in Parked. I leave the keywords, images, and everything else the same. More because I'm lazy when it comes to doing all of those things. Does modifying all of the different features help? If you think they do then they do. If you don't think they will help, then they won't. So we make it available to those who think it will help and for those who have the time to make the changes.

In a perfect world I would love to have a system that you add your domains and you have to do nothing. The problem with that is then everybody would have something similiar. So the more option I give you the better. Unfortunately in some cases, we almost need to have different levels of access.

For example, we are currently working on a designer that would allow people to customize their own templates. The problem with this is if you aren't a designer then the system is very complicated, because it's pure html. So we started looking at the idea of having different levels of access. The first level would be purely, here's 20 different layouts, choose one. The next would be here's 20 different layouts, and you can use a limited html editor to modify them. The next would be 20 layouts and you can use an advanced editor something like fckeditor/dreamweaver, but you would be able to modify keywords, etc... And then the final option would be where you could have access to basically everything our designers have access to. The problem with this, is if one person gets access to the level 2 editor and another person only has access to the differen layouts and they take to each other, the next thing you have somebody wondering why they don't have something that somebody else does. And imagine the manual we would have to write for this.

Oh well, maybe I'll just give everybody access to the new layouts and call it a day.

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Old 10-07-2008, 02:48 PM   · #6311
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Is there ANY chance that some kind of arbitrage might be allowed back??



...i wish. I had to move on to affiliate marketing once parked arbitrage stopped. It's possible to make a sh*t ton once you find a couple of products you really believe in.

...but man...I really miss arbitrage.
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...i wish. I had to move on to affiliate marketing once parked arbitrage stopped. It's possible to make a sh*t ton once you find a couple of products you really believe in.

...but man...I really miss arbitrage.



I think a lot of Parked'ers do...it was GREAT to have a high paying keyword domain and being able to advertise it...most of my revenue was never actually from arbitrage...but I always liked it and I miss it too!
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Parking system: Company that facilitates putting ads on your domains that usually come from Google or Yahoo, along with templates, photos.

They take a cut of the revenue earned from the clicks on ads shown on your domains.

Google or Yahoo gets a cut, the "parking system" takes a cut, and you get a cut. All three share the advertisers payment.

Four parties are involved..... three get paid, and one (the advertiser) pays. The three share what the one pays.



Seabass.. thanks for the explanation!!!!...

let's say i have a website i would like to post some advertise... do i go to parked.com and follow their instruction!!??... is it worth it doing it that way!!??
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Plus, if we could be able to create 3 such kw groups which are custom rotated during a day or week, it would help us immensely. That way, no particular kw gets too many hits and we also have the option of having higher paying keywords in the system at all times.



Wouldn't the keyword groups have to be related to each other? That's 1 problem I see....

Not that I'm lucky enough to have this problem but For example: If your getting too many clicks to the keyword 'Cheap Laptops' and you create 2 additional related categories like 'Laptops' and 'notebook computers'

My understanding of the system is that, This isn't going to help the problem and your probably going to find the same advertisers on those related keywords as well.

If for some strange reason you rotated unrelated keywords then your problem of too many visitors to a particular keyword could be solved.
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Seabass.. thanks for the explanation!!!!...

let's say i have a website i would like to post some advertise... do i go to parked.com and follow their instruction!!??... is it worth it doing it that way!!??


lasb_100, Parked.com and "domain parking".....using a "parking system"..... is not for "websites" it is ONLY for domains. You are also not allowed to advertise or point links to your domain.

The correct steps I believe are:

1. Sign up for a Parked.com account at Parked.com or PM Donny above. He can help you out.

2. After you are accepted, choose your payment option at the Parked.com site.

3. Go to your registrar and change the DNS to the DNS that Parked.com gives you for the domains you are adding to parked. The DNS entries are normally ns1.parked.com and ns2.parked.com.

4. Add your domain(s) to Parked.com.

5. Go into the Parked.com interface and add your keyword(s) and photos to the domain and hit save.

6. Check your domain to make sure you have a nice looking site with ads that match exactly the subject of the doamin.

7. Check your stats to make sure you are making money.

8. Wait for money to arrive in bank account.

9. Repeat steps three through eight with new domains.

If you have problems, your assigned rep can help you out.

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Wouldn't the keyword groups have to be related to each other? That's 1 problem I see....

Not that I'm lucky enough to have this problem but For example: If your getting too many clicks to the keyword 'Cheap Laptops' and you create 2 additional related categories like 'Laptops' and 'notebook computers'

My understanding of the system is that, This isn't going to help the problem and your probably going to find the same advertisers on those related keywords as well.

If for some strange reason you rotated unrelated keywords then your problem of too many visitors to a particular keyword could be solved.



I wanted to update what I had mentioned earlier.

Dn, the advertisers would mostly be the same for an entire niche. Like, for laptops, you would still have Dell, HP, Tiger Direct etc competing for almost all laptop related keywords. But, they evaluate traffic conversions from different keywords in different ad groups. Now, from what I understand, if you have a lot of hits on 1-2 keywords on your domain, you might end up hurting your Q score. Lets take the example of "cheap laptops". Now, if this Kw starts getting a 100 clicks a day, you might see your Qscore sliding down. However, if we could have a system that lets us add other related keywords like : Affordable laptops, Low Cost Laptops, Cheaper Laptops and let it rotate once every 15 minutes or maybe an even more advanced strategy where, once a keyword has received 20 clicks, another related Kw takes its place. This automatic rotation of Kws, Imo, may help many domainers retain better Q scores and better RPC.

I believe, Parking Panel had a system somewhat similar to this, where the auto optimize mode, would keep rotating keywords to find the highest clicked keywords and then start showing those high converting keywords on the topmost links. However, in our case, at Parked, we can easily find out our best performing kws via the traffic analysis tab. What would be great is a system that starts rotating keywords. So lets take for example, that your domain shows in its traffic analysis, that the keyword "cheap laptops" gets the highest clickthroughs. Now, the system could start bringing in related keywords for that high performing keyword like affordable laptops etc and start rotating them. Thus, even your visitor is satisfied that he gets close matches to the cheap laptop kw and your CTR too is not affected. However, the system would go even further, to try and throw in your higher paying keyword into the top 11 links in the first main box more often. For example, the system understands that cheap laptops is your highest clicked keyword and pays you $1 RPC. At the same time, the related keyword "affordable laptops" has a historic average of $0.80 based on the past 90 days Kw performance data. So, the system makes sure that your higher paying keyword "cheap laptops" is shown 7 out of 10 times. This will help you maintain an ideal balance between your Q score, CTR and RPC.

A system based on this, would hopefully ensure both, the domainer and the parking company to derive the maximum win win situation in a competitive industry.
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Dn, the advertisers would mostly be the same for an entire niche. Like, for laptops, you would still have Dell, HP, Tiger Direct etc competing for almost all laptop related keywords. But, they evaluate traffic conversions from different keywords in different ad groups. Now, from what I understand, if you have a lot of hits on 1-2 keywords on your domain, you might end up hurting your Q score. Lets take the example of "cheap laptops". Now, if this Kw starts getting a 100 clicks a day, you might see your Qscore sliding down. However, if we could have a system that lets us add other related keywords like : Affordable laptops, Low Cost Laptops, Cheaper Laptops and let it rotate once every 15 minutes or maybe an even more advanced strategy where, once a keyword has received 20 clicks, another related Kw takes its place. This automatic rotation of Kws, Imo, may help many domainers retain better Q scores and better RPC.
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You may be right but I understand it differently, I think the closely related keywords would still lower the TQ.

As I said, I'm not lucky enough to have this quantity of traffic on this day so I guess Donny would be your man after all.

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As I said, I'm not lucky enough to have this quantity of traffic on this day so I guess Donny would be your man after all.

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Dave, I'm not that lucky either, but just trying to think up methods to improve the Q score. I'm at a 6 now for the past 4 weeks after 6 weeks at a 10. So, I'm definitely concerned Dave.
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I just moved to Parked. The pay is good but my CTR is low at 11%. I have optimized all of my domains. I've heard that it's usually at around 20-25 for normal accounts. Anyone have any suggestions?
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If you have just moved your domains over is it not a bit quick for conclusions about ctr?
While optimizing you may have clicked on all your domains and that does not help your click through rate I assume.
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I just moved to Parked. The pay is good but my CTR is low at 11%. I have optimized all of my domains. I've heard that it's usually at around 20-25 for normal accounts. Anyone have any suggestions?


It should not be that low if you are using appropriate keywords.

Is it all expired traffic? I would think so, but even still you should be able to get it up higher unless it is really bad traffic.

I usually run b/t 40% to 50% CTR for my entire portfolio of generics at Parked currently.....it used to be much higher until I added much more foreign traffic.
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Seabass has point, expired traffic usually makes much lower CTR as those people expect site they know.
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