Mr Pinky Week of May 7th - Page 3

Jeff · 05-12-2007, 09:14 AM

Thanks for the update, iNod.
-Jeff

Work In Progress · 05-12-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by iNod

Well guys.. I sent him multiple emails. 2 of which bounced back and 2 remain unanswered. I have no idea why he isn't responding but I will wait for abit and see what happens

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/319938-mr-pinky-week-of-may-7th.html

- Steve

He may want to look up the term "biting the hand that feeds you"

Jeff · 05-12-2007, 09:54 PM

Yeah ... and, welp, I guess I'm just frustrated at this point IMHO.

By all accounts, Pinky is a good dude ... and I just can't see him not wanting to be a regular part of all of this activity going on here in the .MOBI Forum™.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938
So MANY unanswered questions and ongoing concerns ... if I owned .MOBI, I'd be sure that the folks here were given anything they wanted as, collectively, there is likely not a greater concentration of supporters - albeit with different opinions and levels of passion - anywhere, IMHO.

Just my two late night sense.
-Jeff

iNod · 05-12-2007, 11:23 PM

Well he did say he would be gone this week to Domain Fest in Amsterdam, so I will give him some time and see what happens. If not I will attempt to call him

as I know his number.

- Steve

iNod · 05-15-2007, 08:14 PM

STILL NO WORD! Hrm.. I wonder where he is? Time to phone I guess.

- Steve

think · 05-15-2007, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by iNod

STILL NO WORD! Hrm.. I wonder where he is? Time to phone I guess.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938

- Steve

Dot Mobi is a silver sponsor at Domainfest. I'd guess he's there and we'll be hearing about it soon. I see Dot Mobi represented at many other trade shows besides domain conventions and I'm not sure who is representing Dot Mobi at all these shows but they sure aren't resting on their laurels.....

cobo · 05-15-2007, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by think

Dot Mobi is a silver sponsor at Domainfest. I'd guess he's there and we'll be hearing about it soon. I see Dot Mobi represented at many other trade shows besides domain conventions and I'm not sure who is representing Dot Mobi at all these shows but they sure aren't resting on their laurels.....

Nice to hear! This could imply a strategic B2B "from the top down" approach to the consumer.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938
Sort of like networking to: "Build It (content) and They (the consumer) Will Come".

hedgefund · 05-15-2007, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by cobo

Nice to hear! This could imply a strategic B2B "from the top down" approach to the consumer.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938
Sort of like networking to: "Build It (content) and They (the consumer) Will Come".

I am pretty confident they are doing what they are supposed to do. Wasting time with this board is not their top priority, though you can argue with that.

-REECE- · 05-15-2007, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by hedgefund

I am pretty confident they are doing what they are supposed to do. Wasting time with this board is not their top priority, though you can argue with that.

"Wasting time on this board" will get them an extra $20k+ from myself alone if I like what I hear and I'm sure many others would consider increasing their respective investments, so I wouldn't call it wasted time... Breaking promises is shameful and we can only hope mtld does not continue down this path.

cobo · 05-15-2007, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by hedgefund

I am pretty confident they are doing what they are supposed to do. Wasting time with this board is not their top priority, though you can argue with that.

Yeah, I think so too. Though it would be nice for them to drop by from time to time, even if for courtesy's sake.

acc · 05-15-2007, 10:37 PM

Just a little more patience boys. The audio from that interview mentioned in another thread is supposed to be posted later this week and Pinky is supposed to be here next week sometime. Save some of that mental energy for your development ideas. We'll get some mtld answers soon.

accent · 05-16-2007, 05:54 AM

Non-domain trade fairs is where I would like them to be.
Best way to EARN that .mobi default (plus good RFP placements).

The .MOBI plant is still under cover of the ground. Will it be a redwood or a weed? The hard fact is that you cannot tell from here. You place your bets (or not) then you wait for the wheel to spin.

Jeff · 05-19-2007, 02:52 PM

05-16-2007, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by acc

Just a little more patience boys. The audio from that interview mentioned in another thread is supposed to be posted later this week and Pinky is supposed to be here next week sometime. Save some of that mental energy for your development ideas. We'll get some mtld answers soon.

I'll even settle by June 1st, does that sound reasonable Acc?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938

Thanks for any further (and firm) updates as well, iNod.

-Jeff

acc · 05-20-2007, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by iNod

05-16-2007, 01:37 AM
I'll even settle by June 1st, does that sound reasonable Acc?

When Mr. Pinky Brand shows, he shows. It's not up to me - or you - to set his schedule. I'll "settle" for when he's able to be here.

It was in one of Inod's posts in this thread where he said May 21-22 was a possible visit date. See below.

Originally Posted by iNod

05-02-2007, 03:25 PM
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938
Possible the 21st or 22nd.. And I am going to do what RJ did before and compile a bunch of questions and post the transcript.. Like before.
- Steve

MrRhee · 05-20-2007, 11:28 PM

curious, but how are they breaking promises? do the members here truly think that the success of .mobi relies on us alone? at this board? that we alone can "make or break" the TLD?

even if MTLD doesn't get any more of our precious money, do you think that people are going to stop buying domains from them? or the aftermarket will dry up? or developers & MTLD will stop their development efforts? or that MTLD will throw in the towel and give up on their masterplan?

In my opinion, MTLD has nothing left to prove to me, I made the decision to invest and develop and will continue to do so. If you follow their PR, and carefully watch whois "movement", plus continue your due-diligence, you will see all you need to see.

not a single thread/post on this board, from a single poster, has carried enough weight to sway my decision to buy and develop my domains. Let the naysayers, fair-weather fans, pseudo-fans, etc... keep on posting about the downfall of MTLD, or the "broken promises", RFP delays, etc... there are enough people out there that can make a decision based on their own due-diligence. I don't need MTLD to hold my hand, I don't need their permission to begin development, I don't need their guidance before I register another .MOBI or make an aftermarket buy.

Perhaps those of you out there that aren't developing, that are RELYING on Parking, or Flipping... perhaps you feel you have something to worry about, but from a development standpoint, the future is bright. In fact, I don't want the consumer to hear about .mobi till I have enough sites out there waiting & ready for them. For me, "NOW" is too early... even "This year" could still be too early.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938

anyway, back to "development" mode... I'm not going to waste time trying to save anyone from themselves, or to convince more domainers to become my competitors, LOL.

.

gemulder · 05-21-2007, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by MrRhee

curious, but how are they breaking promises? do the members here truly think that the success of .mobi relies on us alone? at this board? that we alone can "make or break" the TLD?

even if MTLD doesn't get any more of our precious money, do you think that people are going to stop buying domains from them? or the aftermarket will dry up? or developers & MTLD will stop their development efforts? or that MTLD will throw in the towel and give up on their masterplan?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938

In my opinion, MTLD has nothing left to prove to me, I made the decision to invest and develop and will continue to do so. If you follow their PR, and carefully watch whois "movement", plus continue your due-diligence, you will see all you need to see.

not a single thread/post on this board, from a single poster, has carried enough weight to sway my decision to buy and develop my domains. Let the naysayers, fair-weather fans, pseudo-fans, etc... keep on posting about the downfall of MTLD, or the "broken promises", RFP delays, etc... there are enough people out there that can make a decision based on their own due-diligence. I don't need MTLD to hold my hand, I don't need their permission to begin development, I don't need their guidance before I register another .MOBI or make an aftermarket buy.

Perhaps those of you out there that aren't developing, that are RELYING on Parking, or Flipping... perhaps you feel you have something to worry about, but from a development standpoint, the future is bright. In fact, I don't want the consumer to hear about .mobi till I have enough sites out there waiting & ready for them. For me, "NOW" is too early... even "This year" could still be too early.

anyway, back to "development" mode... I'm not going to waste time trying to save anyone from themselves, or to convince more domainers to become my competitors, LOL.

.

Those are my thoughts!

hedgefund · 05-21-2007, 04:06 AM

Well said, MrRhee, Thanks. That is exactly what I am trying to say.

qO_Op · 05-21-2007, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by MrRhee

curious, but how are they breaking promises? do the members here truly think that the success of .mobi relies on us alone? at this board? that we alone can "make or break" the TLD?

even if MTLD doesn't get any more of our precious money, do you think that people are going to stop buying domains from them? or the aftermarket will dry up? or developers & MTLD will stop their development efforts? or that MTLD will throw in the towel and give up on their masterplan?

In my opinion, MTLD has nothing left to prove to me, I made the decision to invest and develop and will continue to do so. If you follow their PR, and carefully watch whois "movement", plus continue your due-diligence, you will see all you need to see.

not a single thread/post on this board, from a single poster, has carried enough weight to sway my decision to buy and develop my domains. Let the naysayers, fair-weather fans, pseudo-fans, etc... keep on posting about the downfall of MTLD, or the "broken promises", RFP delays, etc... there are enough people out there that can make a decision based on their own due-diligence. I don't need MTLD to hold my hand, I don't need their permission to begin development, I don't need their guidance before I register another .MOBI or make an aftermarket buy.

Perhaps those of you out there that aren't developing, that are RELYING on Parking, or Flipping... perhaps you feel you have something to worry about, but from a development standpoint, the future is bright. In fact, I don't want the consumer to hear about .mobi till I have enough sites out there waiting & ready for them. For me, "NOW" is too early... even "This year" could still be too early.

anyway, back to "development" mode... I'm not going to waste time trying to save anyone from themselves, or to convince more domainers to become my competitors, LOL.

.

Thank you MrRhee...those are my thoughts exactly too.

bucks · 05-21-2007, 08:32 AM

I agree with most everything you have said above Mr. Rhee, but what does this have to do with the OP?
"Mr Pinky Week of May 7th"

If I'm not mistaken this is now the second time He was "scheduled" to be here that He must have at one point - agreed to.

Where I come from if you have a meeting/bid scheduled and your late or a "No Show" you can kiss that contract goodbye because very rarely do you get a second chance to make that First Impression.

Grant it- this thread (Business) is on a much Much larger scale, I believe this very Important part of "Business Ethics"(keeping your word with other Business minded individuals) would or at least should stand true for anyone in ANY Business.

If He/they decided it would not be in the best interest of Mtld to open themselves up to the types of questions that have been raised here, then so be it (I probably wouldn't either) But to blow off this meeting and choose not to respond and not return phone calls from NP's Management concerning this, we'll, it's just not good Business IMO.

Your right though, Mtld doesn't owe us anything more then what they have already given us. From day one their objectives have been Very Clear and they are not giving into the clock (deadlines) until they have it right.

thinking1 · 06-01-2007, 04:34 PM

Ok, so is Pinky coming?

Pred · 06-01-2007, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by thinking1

Ok, so is Pinky coming?

is he f*ck

accent · 06-02-2007, 12:10 AM

I think the interchangable use of "domain speculators" and "cybersquaters" by Mr Niel (MTLD CEO) in his interview gives the answer to our questions -- no, Mr. Pinky is not coming back and MTLD wishes we would all go away.

(So they could brag about selling 100,000 domains instead of 500,000)

-REECE- · 06-02-2007, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by accentnepal

I think the interchangable use of "domain speculators" and "cybersquaters" by Mr Niel (MTLD CEO) in his interview gives the answer to our questions -- no, Mr. Pinky is not coming back and MTLD wishes we would all go away.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938

(So they could brag about selling 100,000 domains instead of 500,000)

Mr. Neil may not know the difference between the two -- although Pinky has elaborated on the differences on a couple separate occasions.

accent · 06-02-2007, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Reece

Mr. Neil may not know the difference between the two -- although Pinky has elaborated on the differences on a couple separate occasions.

Was he comfortable with the idea of domain investing that does not involve clearly trademarked names?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938

Any chance you have those bits and could post them?

I just do not think that Mr Pinky would avoid coming here, after he offered to in his first chat, and later set up a meeting, without a clear reason, such as a memo from his boss. There is some smoke here, some issue/problem. He didn't seem the type to blow off the meeting and not reply to emails/calls.

-REECE- · 06-03-2007, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by accentnepal

Was he comfortable with the idea of domain investing that does not involve clearly trademarked names?

Any chance you have those bits and could post them?

I just do not think that Mr Pinky would avoid coming here, after he offered to in his first chat, and later set up a meeting, without a clear reason, such as a memo from his boss. There is some smoke here, some issue/problem. He didn't seem the type to blow off the meeting and not reply to emails/calls.

As per your request, here's a snippet with an accompanying link: http://dotmobi.typepad.com/dotmobi/m...ons/index.html

"Domainers are currently driving growth in dot-com today, owning about 25% of the dot-com names for example. dotMobi has worked to create a more equitable process for allocating dotMobi names as we go live." -- Neil Edwards

"dotMobi ensures clear direction for consumers who want to access mobile content, especially content outside a walled garden. Through our support of the W3C initiative and our SwitchOn guide, we provide a framework for TLD relevancy and thus not the usual land-grab, but an UNusual land-grab that protects trademark holders and their marketers that understand the implications of growing mCommerce, and an unprecedented opportunity for entrepreneurs and domainers with vision to develop mobile-friendly geospatial content that can pay dividends down the road." -- Pinky Brand

And here: http://www.domainingblog.com/2006/11...f-dotmobi.html
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938

Q: db – Are there any tips you can give to domainers looking to make the most of their .mobi domain names?

A: PB – I can’t say it enough. Develop content. The mobile Internet sorely lacks it at the moment. dotMobi and our investors are working hard to make sure that consumers, mobile operators and content providers are aware of our value proposition. Domainers who are first on the block with content have a much better shot at attaining success in the rapidly growing mobile world vs. those that just sit back and do nothing. Think where .com was ten years ago. I believe it won’t take nearly as long for .mobi to have an impact.

And here: http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/263...d-dotmobi.html

Pinky-Brand: I think domainers have been given a bad name by a few rotten apples. But for the most part I believe domainers are a valuable part of the ecosystem as long as the behaviours are economically efficient and ultimately benefit the end consumer.

Clearly Neil seems to view domainers as "taking advantage" of the system in an unfair way, whereas Pinky seems to not only think domainers are "part of life", but actually may add value to the ecosystem.

05-12-2007, 09:14 AM	#51 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	Thanks for the update, iNod. -Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

05-12-2007, 09:54 PM	#53 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	Yeah ... and, welp, I guess I'm just frustrated at this point IMHO. By all accounts, Pinky is a good dude ... and I just can't see him not wanting to be a regular part of all of this activity going on here in the .MOBI Forum™. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938 So MANY unanswered questions and ongoing concerns ... if I owned .MOBI, I'd be sure that the folks here were given anything they wanted as, collectively, there is likely not a greater concentration of supporters - albeit with different opinions and levels of passion - anywhere, IMHO. Just my two late night sense. -Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

05-12-2007, 11:23 PM	THREAD STARTER #54 (permalink)
iNod Eating Pie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,267	Well he did say he would be gone this week to Domain Fest in Amsterdam, so I will give him some time and see what happens. If not I will attempt to call him as I know his number. - Steve __________________ I feel old.

05-15-2007, 08:14 PM	THREAD STARTER #55 (permalink)
iNod Eating Pie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,267	STILL NO WORD! Hrm.. I wonder where he is? Time to phone I guess. - Steve __________________ I feel old.

05-16-2007, 05:54 AM	#62 (permalink)
accent Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,299	Non-domain trade fairs is where I would like them to be. Best way to EARN that .mobi default (plus good RFP placements). The .MOBI plant is still under cover of the ground. Will it be a redwood or a weed? The hard fact is that you cannot tell from here. You place your bets (or not) then you wait for the wheel to spin. __________________ Domains for sale For List Of Country Code Domains Jewelry of Tibet and Nepal TibetanJewelry.mobi Tibetan Symbols Om Pyramids Ancient Egyptian Secrets Ancient Mystery Eden Shakti

05-15-2007, 10:37 PM	#61 (permalink)
acc NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 787	Just a little more patience boys. The audio from that interview mentioned in another thread is supposed to be posted later this week and Pinky is supposed to be here next week sometime. Save some of that mental energy for your development ideas. We'll get some mtld answers soon.

05-20-2007, 11:28 PM	#65 (permalink)
MrRhee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Multiverse Posts: 1,207	curious, but how are they breaking promises? do the members here truly think that the success of .mobi relies on us alone? at this board? that we alone can "make or break" the TLD? even if MTLD doesn't get any more of our precious money, do you think that people are going to stop buying domains from them? or the aftermarket will dry up? or developers & MTLD will stop their development efforts? or that MTLD will throw in the towel and give up on their masterplan? In my opinion, MTLD has nothing left to prove to me, I made the decision to invest and develop and will continue to do so. If you follow their PR, and carefully watch whois "movement", plus continue your due-diligence, you will see all you need to see. not a single thread/post on this board, from a single poster, has carried enough weight to sway my decision to buy and develop my domains. Let the naysayers, fair-weather fans, pseudo-fans, etc... keep on posting about the downfall of MTLD, or the "broken promises", RFP delays, etc... there are enough people out there that can make a decision based on their own due-diligence. I don't need MTLD to hold my hand, I don't need their permission to begin development, I don't need their guidance before I register another .MOBI or make an aftermarket buy. Perhaps those of you out there that aren't developing, that are RELYING on Parking, or Flipping... perhaps you feel you have something to worry about, but from a development standpoint, the future is bright. In fact, I don't want the consumer to hear about .mobi till I have enough sites out there waiting & ready for them. For me, "NOW" is too early... even "This year" could still be too early. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=319938 anyway, back to "development" mode... I'm not going to waste time trying to save anyone from themselves, or to convince more domainers to become my competitors, LOL. .

05-21-2007, 04:06 AM	#67 (permalink)
hedgefund NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608	Well said, MrRhee, Thanks. That is exactly what I am trying to say. __________________ iTravel.mobi - Interstate Highway Travel Guide \| iAnswer.mobi \| Why.mobi?

05-21-2007, 08:32 AM	#69 (permalink)
bucks NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CA Posts: 134	I agree with most everything you have said above Mr. Rhee, but what does this have to do with the OP? "Mr Pinky Week of May 7th" If I'm not mistaken this is now the second time He was "scheduled" to be here that He must have at one point - agreed to. Where I come from if you have a meeting/bid scheduled and your late or a "No Show" you can kiss that contract goodbye because very rarely do you get a second chance to make that First Impression. Grant it- this thread (Business) is on a much Much larger scale, I believe this very Important part of "Business Ethics"(keeping your word with other Business minded individuals) would or at least should stand true for anyone in ANY Business. If He/they decided it would not be in the best interest of Mtld to open themselves up to the types of questions that have been raised here, then so be it (I probably wouldn't either) But to blow off this meeting and choose not to respond and not return phone calls from NP's Management concerning this, we'll, it's just not good Business IMO. Your right though, Mtld doesn't owe us anything more then what they have already given us. From day one their objectives have been Very Clear and they are not giving into the clock (deadlines) until they have it right.

06-01-2007, 04:34 PM	#70 (permalink)
thinking1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,063	Ok, so is Pinky coming? __________________ Power Metal Studio City

06-02-2007, 12:10 AM	#72 (permalink)
accent Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,299	I think the interchangable use of "domain speculators" and "cybersquaters" by Mr Niel (MTLD CEO) in his interview gives the answer to our questions -- no, Mr. Pinky is not coming back and MTLD wishes we would all go away. (So they could brag about selling 100,000 domains instead of 500,000) __________________ Domains for sale For List Of Country Code Domains Jewelry of Tibet and Nepal TibetanJewelry.mobi Tibetan Symbols Om Pyramids Ancient Egyptian Secrets Ancient Mystery Eden Shakti

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