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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madeira Island-Portugal
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Got my PayPal payment for March, today. Thanks Matt GIL
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I also got like 2$ and a few cents (lets order a pizza, and a coke.. and some girls.. its Eastern Europe after all! okay just kidding)
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| Yup. It's cold. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Alaska
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/318378-new-revolution-domain-parking-here-bodis.html I still don't understand how v2 will increase revenue if the upstream providers aren't better.
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| Bodis.com Join Date: May 2005
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 With our new version, we will be able to query all 15 ad feeds at once since our new version is deployed on a different software capable of doing so. If we were to use more than 2 providers right now, we'd have response times slower than 2 seconds when loading the results page, and that is really slow. In the new version, we can handle upto 15 or more feeds at once and return and output the results in less than a second. So revenue will increase because we will have better templates, a better keyword system, and more feeds. Hope that explains it. | ||||
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 please understand the difference | ||||||||
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| Yup. It's cold. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Alaska
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However, I'm a bit confused about the "we only choose to use 2 of the best ones for each country" statement. Does that mean if I'm located in the USA, that when someone clicks on my page's link that the resulting ad links are provided by the two best of the 15 available for the USA? I'm asking because as it is now, 80% of the links on my pages are the "filler" providers mentioned earlier (like toseeka and such), and if those are already the best, then things look gloomy. However, if you're saying that a new keyword system will search all 15 feeds and do away with the "filler" ads, that sounds promising. Also, will we be in a better revenue "bucket" with the 15 feeds, so that the more specific ads found to match by the better keyword system will pay better earnings per click than we have now?
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| Bodis.com Join Date: May 2005
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | 2 of the best meaning that we serve 2 of the best feeds that perform well overall. You are right about the 2 best of 15 for USA, that is how it currently works. Filler providers are not bad at all. The 2 feeds perform best overall on the entire network than any other 2 feeds. Although, if we query all 15 feeds, we can determine which results from which feeds to display based on that query alone. I will get a little more specific when we are ready with the new Bodis. |
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2007
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![]() | Matt, we were led to believe that the adverts shown would depend on the country of the visitors. You clearly posted here, and sent an e-mail, with a list of countries' traffic that is now supported by Bodis. I'm in the UK and all I can see on my domains are, presumably, the two crappy American feeds. Why must the adverts shown on a domain be dictated by the language of the country of the domain's registrant? That's crazy. I can't even get European keywords to work. How can I get the European feeds? I deliberately moved some of my European language domains to Bodis because you said they were supported, and I moved my English and American ones away in an effort to avoid all the Find Stuff, CouponMountain and Local **** Buddies adverts. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 And another thing. If these are the best two of the fifteen feeds, what are the other thirteen like?? I think you should forget working on the logo and spend more time finding a proper feed and keeping us informed. EDIT I notice that the 'F' word has been asterisced out on my post, why can't Bodis to the same to the adverts that it serves to my domains?? |
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If you're not happy then you should bail out. Then you won't have to put up with the "delays" and "promises". | ||||
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Nobody was kicked out for the "second" time so I am not sure what you are talking about. And to the post below yours, we serve the two best feeds per country. I think you misunderstood my previous post. I was giving an example that we'd serve the 2 best feeds for USA that would work best on the entire network (for that country). It is impossible to use USA feeds for non-USA visitors. No ads would show, since it is prohibited by the upstream ad providers. We already have the majority of the best second-tier feeds. Nothing else can improve with the feeds that we currently have except Bodis itself by ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 1) Putting all of them into use at the same time instead of 2. 2) Changing the layout to increase clicks. That's all we can do right now until we grow and expand and get a feed from either Yahoo or Google. PS I am not working on the logo. That logo was finished months ago and was posted here only for display.
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2007
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![]() | Thanks for clearing that up Matt, I must've misunderstood. It looked as if you were confirming that the feeds were the two best ones for the domainers country. How can I set the keywords to European words? I haven't been able to do that yet. |
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1. Bodis doesn't have enough visitor or pageviews to get a Yahoo or Google feed. 2. When Bodis has expanded, then Bodis will get either a Yahoo or Google feed. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 Am I right to assume that there's no Yahoo or Google feed at the time when you launch v2? Seems to me we're in a Chicken or Egg situation. => No Yahoo or Google feed => low RPC => less people parking at Bodis => less visitors => not meeting minimum requirement of Yahoo or Google => No Yahoo or Google feed => low RPC...... | ||||
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Even when I try to set the keyword to a very common, multi-language word like 'reklama' it won't accept it, even though there must be loads of people using that as a keyword for their adverts. | ||||
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well in order to qualify for a Google feed these days it takes more than just enough visitors unfortunately. More like 10+ million revenue per year. And when I say +, I mean +. And Yahoo is even worse. And I am not speaking about the best Google feed. That is not even possible. In order to get the best Google feed, we'll need a lot more millions of revenue per year I'd estimate. Maybe in the 9 figures. And even that may not be an option as soon as a year or two down the road. Are we in an Chicken and Egg situation? Definitely not. Sure it would really be nice to have the same feed that Sedo, Oversee.net, or Skenzo has with Google, but what I tried doing best for the new Bodis is finding ways to make more money with a bunch of second-tier feeds. As I've mentioned, better layouts, better use of feeds, and better features. There will be many niche domain names that will perform better here than with Google or anywhere else. We also have better flexibility of our feeds, how we can optimize them, and use them to our advantage. We have users now, not a lot, but a few that have domain names that do great RIGHT NOW on Bodis. And I know how clunky the current Bodis is, and I also know that there is a definite revenue improvement in the new Bodis since I've already tested it. So I know that there will be many more domain names that will do great with the new Bodis. We have 32,000 client domain names currently resolving to the Bodis nameservers. Some of our other competitors such as: ParkingPanel.com 24,000 RevenueDirect.com 270,000 Parked.com 890,000 I know that some of these parking programs have their own seperate portfolios and also some cherry pick the best of the best, but considering how bad Bodis currently is, and I know how bad it is, I see the daily revenue as well - I think we're doing pretty damn good with 32,000 domain names as is, not to mention the fact that we haven't accepted a domainer into the program for over a half a year now. Once we get this new Bodis out which is stable and has an easy to use system, and we start accepting members, things will start improving. Most portfolios have a domain name or two that does better on Bodis than elsewhere. Once we get enough users with these niche domain names we will get the revenue we need to get a better feed. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 But the feed is not my main concern right now. Things are near completion, but I can't let things go wrong like they did with Bodis so far, otherwise I could be in trouble, that's why I am taking all the time necessary.
The new Bodis makes use of a better keyword system that will find you results for "reklama" and other multi-lingual keywords. | ||||
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Italy
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I really appreciate the sincerity of your post Matt. I have very few names now that are not performing at all in terms of clicks . Some italian domain that are very good basically do not display relevant ads, but very generic ones. People doesn twant to go through several steps before getting the site of interest so the ad have to be "focused" on what the customer is looking for. Same applies to english domains. I am sticking with Bodis as I believe you have a vision , and have faith that Bodis v2 will be a great improvement. On the other side I haven t been customising domains because waiting for the new version, and this adds up to the poor performance. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 I am ready to add other domains as soon as B2 will be on place and running strong though
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