The New REVOLUTION in Domain Parking is HERE! - Bodis.com - Page 166

comicbookguy · 12-01-2007, 09:26 AM

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goodkarmaco · 12-02-2007, 12:08 AM

Many have already commented on the fact that the upstream provider reported heavy click fraud coming from Bodis accounts. Lots of bodis members have stated this is more than likely why the higher click prices paid out in the early days of Bodis tanked.

Myself and many others believe this to be true of Bodis.

We simply have no idea how bad the fraud became. The immediate closure of accounts makes me come to the conclusion that fraud was out of hand and trimming the sail immediately without the long process of checking each account for fraud was the only way to save the ship.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/318378-new-revolution-domain-parking-here-bodis.html

I have many parking companies I park with and the statement that scammers don't make providers pay 2 cents a click is almost funny. Except its a painful funny. Thats the problem with parking, we get 0.2 cent or .03 clicks all the time from lots of parking companies. Who knows what we were really supposed to receive, as we trust the parking companies so much, we are not even that concerned. Personally I think we should be looking at the big picture here.

The companies we domainers park our names with should be able to provide us with accurate transparent stats.

Until that day is a reality, we can only complain to the wind as no one is listening.

yon · 12-03-2007, 04:05 AM

Bodis.com email says they stoped accept new account apply now.

I think there are some non-compliant hits is a normal, and the key is how we prevent and control. The biggest loss is for Domain owner park us. Because we do not want some of the issues leading to our account has been suspended, all the income did not.

We are unable to see who visits who click, but also unable to control errors arise.
We and PARK companies are cooperative relations and mutually beneficial.

teguh123 · 12-04-2007, 12:24 AM

You know I have domains heavily indexed by Google. Some are 8000 indexes. Now, it's blackhat. So I was, "cheating".

However, once the index grow so high, I would like to move it to a parking company with Search engine optimized content. You see it's search engine traffic. I no longer promote the domain.

Tobiasz · 12-04-2007, 12:54 AM

Hey Matt what's going on? My revenue has dropped about 90% on the same domains :/

gorilla_bob · 12-04-2007, 01:29 AM

Would be nice if at least we get some type of communication on what the hecks going on with Bodis.

Matt,

Can we start some type of communication that you send out to the rest of the 300 that's left over? Many of us are having 2nd thoughts and at least we need to know what's going on since the frauds should have dropped after the purge but our clicks and traffic are still sub par.

I think you owe us that much respect since we are already putting a portion of our livelihood in Bodis hands.

This would be a great sign of maturity on your part to do so.

- Bob

***mwzd*** · 12-04-2007, 03:58 AM

Three 'tickets' which probably went to the bin and were never replied to. Even though some bugs have been fixed.

Ever dropping revenue, 0-50c/day now.

Am at the end of my tether, 300 or no, I'm about ready to move, specially with the total lack of communication.

goodkarmaco · 12-04-2007, 04:12 AM

Why should Matt respond, if he did he would never get any work done.

Lets give him a month to see how his management can restore some value to his parking company. I'm in for another month. Thats not a long time to wait for Matt to figure out a solution. I think he made it clear he was not going to answer questions for now or communicate.

The way I read that, he is going to do the work required to save his company and for now he has no time to talk shop.

***mwzd*** · 12-04-2007, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

Why should Matt respond, if he did he would never get any work done.

Thats exactly what I'm worried about.

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

Lets give him a month to see how his management can restore some value to his parking company. I'm in for another month. Thats not a long time to wait for Matt to figure out a solution.

I'm already on two months and counting.

With the holiday season coming up thats the highest paying time, why would I want to put my rev in the gutter for this time?

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

I think he made it clear he was not going to answer questions for now or communicate.

To you personally? Nowhere i can find in this thread or on the site.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

The way I read that, he is going to do the work required to save his company and for now he has no time to talk shop.

Err, if all the domainers leave, there will be no company. I'm one of the many proponents of matt and bodis. If I'm getting stonewalled...

zurc.net · 12-04-2007, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

Why should Matt respond, if he did he would never get any work done.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378

Lets give him a month to see how his management can restore some value to his parking company. I'm in for another month. Thats not a long time to wait for Matt to figure out a solution. I think he made it clear he was not going to answer questions for now or communicate.

The way I read that, he is going to do the work required to save his company and for now he has no time to talk shop.

Lol, are you kidding me?

Matt is handling this situation like a immature 12 year old.. In business, you don't just ignore your problems, you face them, do the best you can to resolve them, and put your "customers/partners" at ease when they feel insecure or upset about something.

Matt has done the exact opposite and has lost ALOT of respect from ALOT of domainers, I really can't see him having much success in the domain industry after what he has done here... Theres just no way anyone is going to want to trust him again...

Cyberian · 12-04-2007, 10:15 AM

OK, I've had enough! Now pay attention folks.
NamePros does not tolerate Flaming, period!

The bashing and name calling is over, whether Matt or the service.

This thread needs to remain open so that the members still involved with Bodis can communicate with each other and Bodis Staff.

If you are no longer partnered with Bodis there is no reason to comment, speculate, or deride anyone in this thread.

Start a new Thread or just STFU, and if you have a problem with this you had better think first then take it up in PM with me personally, because the next attack on anyone in this thread gets warned. Understand?

Cyberian

asdfqwer · 12-04-2007, 10:15 AM

Is it just me or everypne's revenue is down by 50%+ and updates dont take place about 2 PM and revenue stats are a few days behind?

gorilla_bob · 12-04-2007, 10:22 AM

Asdfqwer,

You could be right, I've been getting some really dismal results the last few days.

- Bob

thetruman · 12-04-2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by ~ Cyberian ~

OK, I've had enough! Now pay attention folks.
NamePros does not tolerate Flaming, period!

The bashing and name calling is over, whether Matt or the service.

This thread needs to remain open so that the members still involved with Bodis can communicate with each other and Bodis Staff.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378

If you are no longer partnered with Bodis there is no reason to comment, speculate, or deride anyone in this thread.

Start a new Thread or just STFU, and if you have a problem with this you had better think first then take it up in PM with me personally, because the next attack on anyone in this thread gets warned. Understand?

Cyberian

I think this is reasonable, completely agree

goodkarmaco · 12-04-2007, 12:49 PM

Thks Cyberian,

I remember just before the purge Matt saying he is going to delete about 3,000 members and only about 300 will remain to save Bodis, and when he said that he said he is not going to respond for a while. I will look up that post when I have time.

mattonline · 12-04-2007, 02:25 PM

General question about editing my page on bodis, am i allowed to put say

Title: Web directory of xxxx product
Description: A little about what the products are etc etc
(Not actually telling them to click the ads, am i?)

Devil_Dog · 12-04-2007, 02:45 PM

You're fine with that as long as you don't put "Please click my links, pretty please" or something like that.

Originally Posted by mattonline

General question about editing my page on bodis, am i allowed to put say

Title: Web directory of xxxx product
Description: A little about what the products are etc etc
(Not actually telling them to click the ads, am i?)

tetrapak · 12-04-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by mwzd

Three 'tickets' which probably went to the bin and were never replied to. Even though some bugs have been fixed.

Ever dropping revenue, 0-50c/day now.

Am at the end of my tether, 300 or no, I'm about ready to move, specially with the total lack of communication.

Same here, i had days with 0,1-0,3$(!!!) total revenue this week. These names were moved to another parking company and in under a few hours they made more revenue than several days at Bodis. Something is very-very wrong there, and until it is fixed i will not waste my time and money. I was really hoping that it would get better after the mass kick out action, but not at all. I know i have set up good looking layouts at Bodis that worked well (click wise mainly), but it cannot be possible that i had 5 clicks a day on the average 2 month ago and now it has 1 click a day on the average. Simply impossible.

**matt_bodis** · 12-04-2007, 04:47 PM

We were waiting for fraud numbers from our upstream ad providers, which came in today. For November we did better than expected.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378

Tonight I will begin reinstating a few accounts slowly...

Also, I understand our horrible support. I am not going to sit here and tell you guys that we have many pros. We have many cons - I know it just as much as you guys do. We have a support representative sitting full-time taking care of each ticket which should start on Monday. But I understand everyone's concerns. We will put that into affect tomorrow.

The revenue I understand has dipped, Daniel. Right now we do not allow multiple clicks temporarily as we still adjust fraud filters, we have not been allowing multiple clicks at all for 2 months now. We are working on that every single day with two top 3rd party companies in the anti-click-fraud industry. These things take time as the system adjusts and collects click data each day. I still promise everyone that revenue will go back up slowly. From me and the 3rd party anti-click-fraud companies perspectives, we are estimating that revenue should double once everything is in place - that is without any v2 optimization that will also take place.

Will be posting more soon.

PS
If you have sent me an email or pm for reinstation. I have received it already. No need to re-send me duplicates. I have everyone's on file and will take a look at all suspended accounts individually and place any of the people I know and the accounts that I still would consider reasonable traffic quality back into the program.

gorilla_bob · 12-04-2007, 05:14 PM

Matt,

Just out of curiosity. Are you subjecting your domains that you have parked on Bodis with fraud filters as well? If not, perhaps there is a way that you can start placing more trusted member's accounts off the fraud filters as you do yours since on our end, we are really hurting right now with the dismal numbers.

- Bob

sirengirl · 12-04-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by ~ Cyberian ~

OK, I've had enough! Now pay attention folks.
NamePros does not tolerate Flaming, period!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378

The bashing and name calling is over, whether Matt or the service.

This thread needs to remain open so that the members still involved with Bodis can communicate with each other and Bodis Staff.

If you are no longer partnered with Bodis there is no reason to comment, speculate, or deride anyone in this thread.

Start a new Thread or just STFU, and if you have a problem with this you had better think first then take it up in PM with me personally, because the next attack on anyone in this thread gets warned. Understand?

Cyberian

Thanks Cyberian, I'm glad you are taking this stance. the thread started to get negative, and insulting.

thetruman · 12-04-2007, 05:25 PM

Hi Matt great to have news from you, just let s start it all over again from a much more solid base and being constructive now.
cheers

vincenco · 12-04-2007, 06:00 PM

Thank you for the latest news Matt.

**BizBot** · 12-04-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by cfguru360

From me and the 3rd party anti-click-fraud companies perspectives, we are estimating that revenue should double once everything is in place - that is without any v2 optimization that will also take place.

That's great news! Thanks for the update.

**matt_bodis** · 12-04-2007, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by gorilla_bob

Matt,

Just out of curiosity. Are you subjecting your domains that you have parked on Bodis with fraud filters as well? If not, perhaps there is a way that you can start placing more trusted member's accounts off the fraud filters as you do yours since on our end, we are really hurting right now with the dismal numbers.

- Bob

Well what ppc industry considers to be "fraud" is more than just "fraud". Fraud in today's ppc industry really comes down to:

1) Actual scammers/fraud - which bodis has already removed.
2) Clicks from bot traffic/spiders/robots, email harvestors, any other types of bots.
3) Non-converting / low-quality clicks.
4) etc...

And there are literally thousands of bots out there. I am not just talking about robots such as Google, Yahoo Slurp, and MSN.

So really, even if you are not a scammer, you could still have potentially fraud traffic. Therefore, we cannot lift any blocks for trusted members. 3rd party software is used right now and it is slowly helping the entire network.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378

You can Google what click fraud is considered in the ppc industry to get a better overview. There are many forms of click fraud that are not directly associated with members of the parking program, and hence why it is hard and a long process to work it out. But we are getting there.

12-01-2007, 09:26 AM	#4126 (permalink)
comicbookguy Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 443	edited Last edited by comicbookguy; 12-04-2007 at 05:39 PM.

12-02-2007, 12:08 AM	#4127 (permalink)
goodkarmaco Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blaine, Wa. Posts: 1,976	Many have already commented on the fact that the upstream provider reported heavy click fraud coming from Bodis accounts. Lots of bodis members have stated this is more than likely why the higher click prices paid out in the early days of Bodis tanked. Myself and many others believe this to be true of Bodis. We simply have no idea how bad the fraud became. The immediate closure of accounts makes me come to the conclusion that fraud was out of hand and trimming the sail immediately without the long process of checking each account for fraud was the only way to save the ship. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/parking-and-traffic-monetization/318378-new-revolution-domain-parking-here-bodis.html I have many parking companies I park with and the statement that scammers don't make providers pay 2 cents a click is almost funny. Except its a painful funny. Thats the problem with parking, we get 0.2 cent or .03 clicks all the time from lots of parking companies. Who knows what we were really supposed to receive, as we trust the parking companies so much, we are not even that concerned. Personally I think we should be looking at the big picture here. The companies we domainers park our names with should be able to provide us with accurate transparent stats. Until that day is a reality, we can only complain to the wind as no one is listening. __________________ GOODKARMACO, "Tenisonline" Last edited by goodkarmaco; 12-02-2007 at 02:16 AM. Reason: misspell

12-04-2007, 12:54 AM	#4130 (permalink)
Tobiasz NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 80	Hey Matt what's going on? My revenue has dropped about 90% on the same domains :/ __________________ I'm buying Polish domains (Polish words + any TLD and all names + .pl).

12-04-2007, 01:29 AM	#4131 (permalink)
gorilla_bob NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 526	Would be nice if at least we get some type of communication on what the hecks going on with Bodis. Matt, Can we start some type of communication that you send out to the rest of the 300 that's left over? Many of us are having 2nd thoughts and at least we need to know what's going on since the frauds should have dropped after the purge but our clicks and traffic are still sub par. I think you owe us that much respect since we are already putting a portion of our livelihood in Bodis hands. This would be a great sign of maturity on your part to do so. - Bob __________________ ██████████████ FRESHDROP.NET - The Domain Searching Platform ██████████████

12-04-2007, 03:58 AM	#4132 (permalink)
*mwzd* Extension Agnostic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,933 Follow @mwzd	Three 'tickets' which probably went to the bin and were never replied to. Even though some bugs have been fixed. Ever dropping revenue, 0-50c/day now. Am at the end of my tether, 300 or no, I'm about ready to move, specially with the total lack of communication. __________________ Domain Names for Sale \| High Value Domain Brokerage \| Domain Consulting \| Domain Blog Professional WebSite Development \| Bulk Pro MiniSite Development

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12-03-2007, 04:05 AM	#4128 (permalink)
yon NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 47	Bodis.com email says they stoped accept new account apply now. I think there are some non-compliant hits is a normal, and the key is how we prevent and control. The biggest loss is for Domain owner park us. Because we do not want some of the issues leading to our account has been suspended, all the income did not. We are unable to see who visits who click, but also unable to control errors arise. We and PARK companies are cooperative relations and mutually beneficial.

12-04-2007, 12:24 AM	#4129 (permalink)
teguh123 NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 351	You know I have domains heavily indexed by Google. Some are 8000 indexes. Now, it's blackhat. So I was, "cheating". However, once the index grow so high, I would like to move it to a parking company with Search engine optimized content. You see it's search engine traffic. I no longer promote the domain.

12-04-2007, 04:12 AM	#4133 (permalink)
goodkarmaco Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blaine, Wa. Posts: 1,976	Why should Matt respond, if he did he would never get any work done. Lets give him a month to see how his management can restore some value to his parking company. I'm in for another month. Thats not a long time to wait for Matt to figure out a solution. I think he made it clear he was not going to answer questions for now or communicate. The way I read that, he is going to do the work required to save his company and for now he has no time to talk shop. __________________ GOODKARMACO, "Tenisonline" Last edited by goodkarmaco; 12-04-2007 at 04:13 AM. Reason: misspell

12-04-2007, 10:15 AM	#4136 (permalink)
Cyberian Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Emerald Triangle Posts: 4,558	OK, I've had enough! Now pay attention folks. NamePros does not tolerate Flaming, period! The bashing and name calling is over, whether Matt or the service. This thread needs to remain open so that the members still involved with Bodis can communicate with each other and Bodis Staff. If you are no longer partnered with Bodis there is no reason to comment, speculate, or deride anyone in this thread. Start a new Thread or just STFU, and if you have a problem with this you had better think first then take it up in PM with me personally, because the next attack on anyone in this thread gets warned. Understand? Cyberian __________________ Remember who your loyalties are divided between, and choose for the right reasons who deserves them.

12-04-2007, 10:15 AM	#4137 (permalink)
asdfqwer NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 52	Is it just me or everypne's revenue is down by 50%+ and updates dont take place about 2 PM and revenue stats are a few days behind? __________________ PM me for Sedo PRO membership and start making more.

12-04-2007, 10:22 AM	#4138 (permalink)
gorilla_bob NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 526	Asdfqwer, You could be right, I've been getting some really dismal results the last few days. - Bob __________________ ██████████████ FRESHDROP.NET - The Domain Searching Platform ██████████████

12-04-2007, 12:49 PM	#4140 (permalink)
goodkarmaco Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blaine, Wa. Posts: 1,976	Thks Cyberian, I remember just before the purge Matt saying he is going to delete about 3,000 members and only about 300 will remain to save Bodis, and when he said that he said he is not going to respond for a while. I will look up that post when I have time. __________________ GOODKARMACO, "Tenisonline"

12-04-2007, 02:25 PM	#4141 (permalink)
mattonline NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: entrepreneurhosting.co.uk Posts: 402	General question about editing my page on bodis, am i allowed to put say Title: Web directory of xxxx product Description: A little about what the products are etc etc (Not actually telling them to click the ads, am i?) __________________ Entrepreneur Forum, Business Forum - Fastest growing Business forum http://Z0P.com, http://0Q6.com - directories :) Electronic service My holding page for all my websites, includes blog :)

12-04-2007, 04:47 PM	THREAD STARTER #4144 (permalink)
matt_bodis Bodis.com Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,591	We were waiting for fraud numbers from our upstream ad providers, which came in today. For November we did better than expected. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=318378 Tonight I will begin reinstating a few accounts slowly... Also, I understand our horrible support. I am not going to sit here and tell you guys that we have many pros. We have many cons - I know it just as much as you guys do. We have a support representative sitting full-time taking care of each ticket which should start on Monday. But I understand everyone's concerns. We will put that into affect tomorrow. The revenue I understand has dipped, Daniel. Right now we do not allow multiple clicks temporarily as we still adjust fraud filters, we have not been allowing multiple clicks at all for 2 months now. We are working on that every single day with two top 3rd party companies in the anti-click-fraud industry. These things take time as the system adjusts and collects click data each day. I still promise everyone that revenue will go back up slowly. From me and the 3rd party anti-click-fraud companies perspectives, we are estimating that revenue should double once everything is in place - that is without any v2 optimization that will also take place. Will be posting more soon. PS If you have sent me an email or pm for reinstation. I have received it already. No need to re-send me duplicates. I have everyone's on file and will take a look at all suspended accounts individually and place any of the people I know and the accounts that I still would consider reasonable traffic quality back into the program. Last edited by matt_bodis; 12-04-2007 at 04:54 PM.

12-04-2007, 05:14 PM	#4145 (permalink)
gorilla_bob NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 526	Matt, Just out of curiosity. Are you subjecting your domains that you have parked on Bodis with fraud filters as well? If not, perhaps there is a way that you can start placing more trusted member's accounts off the fraud filters as you do yours since on our end, we are really hurting right now with the dismal numbers. - Bob __________________ ██████████████ FRESHDROP.NET - The Domain Searching Platform ██████████████

12-04-2007, 05:25 PM	#4147 (permalink)
thetruman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 2,972 Follow @truman52000	Hi Matt great to have news from you, just let s start it all over again from a much more solid base and being constructive now. cheers __________________ eolic.org lose your fat fitnessfatburning http://www.tatagiogio.com Want to play? try giochicomputer!

12-04-2007, 06:00 PM	#4148 (permalink)
vincenco NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 70	Thank you for the latest news Matt. __________________ Namedrive - Monetize your traffic

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