Ouch!

VirtualT · 11-24-2007, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by zurcsdomains

900$ in 4 months for twentytwentyworldcup.com ? What am I missing here ?

the boat, by the looks, lol

NickWilsdon · 11-24-2007, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Interesting fact: 13 bombs could take down the entire internet, since the root has only 13 servers for all tld's. The 13 root servers all (redundant) point to all the various tld servers like com/net/org... Once the root is gone, then all the tld's go poof... com/net/org/info/tv/cn/us/de... all go poof.

Actually Marc that's a bit of an internet myth. There are over 130 according to ICANN. There is a lot more stability on the net than people think.
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On the other points though - totally agree. Looks like they have both name servers on the same box. Separate class C networks is pretty standard for mission critical stuff.

goodkarmaco · 11-24-2007, 03:32 AM

Zurchs,

I'm scratchin my head too.

namebug · 11-24-2007, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by VirtualT

the boat, by the looks, lol

I was going to make a sarcastic comment about this being more of the tip of the iceberg than a boat..but it looks like a cricket typo .

evilopinions · 11-24-2007, 04:06 AM

its not a typo...it is da best domain that u can possess before the world cup...I am disappointed though that it was only 900 usd I thought it would fetch atleast double that....I think the Bodis downhill graph would have ruined its aftermath....

firefly · 11-24-2007, 04:09 AM

Big twenty twenty cricket world cup finished about a month ago.

Teams from Countries like Australia,England,Pakistan,India,South Africa,New Zealand,Zimbabwe, West Indies, Sri Lanka just to name a few. Not all sport is American.

It was big....Surprised he only made $900

PowerUp · 11-24-2007, 04:21 AM

What does the "twenty twenty" stand for?

firefly · 11-24-2007, 04:28 AM

the amount of overs each side gets to bat.

It's a much faster paced version of the game that most people would'nt be familiar with unless they were into cricket.

PowerUp · 11-24-2007, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by xxfireflyxx

the amount of overs each side gets to bat.

It's a much faster paced version of the game that most people would'nt be familiar with unless they were into cricket.

LOL. Thanks.
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At first I thought this domain's about the World Cup Football. Funny to earn such revenue for a game that's going to be on every four years and that's on 2018 and 2022.

prateekj · 11-24-2007, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by xxfireflyxx

Big twenty twenty cricket world cup finished about a month ago.

Teams from Countries like Australia,England,Pakistan,India,South Africa,New Zealand,Zimbabwe, West Indies, Sri Lanka just to name a few. Not all sport is American.

It was big....Surprised he only made $900

I had 2 similar names (related to World Twenty20) parked at Bodis and made over $1500 in 15 days.

firefly · 11-24-2007, 05:57 AM

Holy Sh*t....Nice

Mark · 11-24-2007, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by sdtrader

This may sound a little harsh and critical but I am speaking in general terms and not directing this to anyone in particular. It is simply my feeling about this whole matter and how it is affecting everyone posting here.

I am a little surprised at all excitement this Bodis stuff has created. I am also surprised at the way people allow themselves to be victimized. I mean come on, really. Some young fella comes along and says he will "revolutionize" the domain parking industry and will single handily out-do all the established, well staffed and equiped businesses already providing this service. Bingo,everyone jumps aboard invests all their time, energy and investment into it.

Its one thing to put a few domains of insignificance to try it out and see what it is all about or spend some free time playing around with setting up the parking pages. But we got people here saying this is a business for them yet they entrust everything to the latest kid announcing his new venture that has their benefit in mind. Aren't there enough Registerflys and Kiddie Hosts doing this already to suggest that caution be used when operating your "business" or making important investments. If I was a car dealer I surely wouldn't entrust my car repairs to a backyard mechanic.

Whats worse is some would consider asking for reinstatement. Sounds to me like some people never learn or else are begging for more punishment.

Some have mentioned sueing and who knows it may be successful. However if someone sold me oceanfront property in Nevada and I tried to sue it would create a chuckle in court. I do not see this any different.

Whether a pure scam or a shady business operation the routine is the same.

1)New exciting scheme is announced. No more having to put up with dealing with the big bully you are use to. Get in early and reap the rewards.
2)People jump in head first without checking for rocks.
3)Things aren't happening the way they were told it would.
4)Everyone is reassured that things will improve.
5)We Believe!We Believe!
6)Things get worse.
7)We have faith. Whats the matter with all you non-believers don't you see what a fine job so-and-so is doing for us -after all how do all great acheivements happen without a gamble? Thank you so much for all you are doing on our behalf.
8)The lights go out and everyone is left cursing.
9)Despite the clear result there always remain a few unconvinced hangers-on.

This happens time and again. If you don't believe me follow the progress of the revolutionary green zap which declared it would change the payment processsor business since Paypal was a greedy monster fo asking 3% fees to run their business.

In summation, I don't think it is a sound practice to invest too heavily in
unproven startups especially one man basement operations. They can be fun and sometimes worth a small gamble but don't expect it to to be a winner very often.
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Parking companies may seem to have the upper hand but when you look at the fact they have staff,overhead,and all the other things that make it all function such as hosting,accounting,etc is it unreasonable if they share the advertising proceeds. After all the domain owner only has buy the domain and point his nameservers. Of course I am suggesting a fare share but the domain owner shouldn't really expect 98% either.

While I am not calling Bodis as a scam as this juncture I am certain of its inability to
continue. Again lets face it, if all is as reported, there is a fourth rate ad server telling it to jump and it jumps,lie down and it lies down. To be successfull as a parking service a company has to be able to provide some leverage by saying we having a significant domain pool,do you want our business or do we go elsewhere.

Ask.com does not have an advertising base that can provide any kind of relevant ads
for serious parking the way that Yahoo and Google can provide. You're fine as long as you advertise credit cards and you can usually get a link for car insurance in Alaska.
But if your site is about Argyle socks, all your sock links take you to some online poker ads.
In turn the ads don't convert and the ad provider cries " poor quality traffic".

Eventually for bodis the end comes with a letter something like:

Here Here !

I've seen parking companies with much more backing and Established much longer completely disappear with barely one thread and a few posts in all domain forums combined ....

It happens ... And to those "Conspiracy Enthusiast" who think I'm closing threads because I'm somehow connected

I never even applied for an account - Much less am I connected in any way.
Every member who has felt they were wronged thinks their situation is unique enough to Warrant a separate thread to describe their Beef with bodis .... Which from the look of it would be several hundred members at least .... Which would mean the entire Parking section of this forum would be nothing but complaint threads 4 pages deep.
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Sorry if I offended anyone on this matter - But no ones problem was all that unique really. Some accounts were closed with minimal traffic and income - Some were closed with tons of traffic and income ...

The best thing to do "immediately" is move your traffic elsewhere to monetize it the best you can. It's not worth it to "Hope" your account will magically be reinstated while losing several days (or more) of income.

I'm not much on Parking to begin with, But It's always best to go with either Established companies -or- with People you know have been in the industry for a long time

Good Luck -

Gregr · 11-24-2007, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by sdtrader

1)New exciting scheme is announced. No more having to put up with dealing with the big bully you are use to. Get in early and reap the rewards.
2)People jump in head first without checking for rocks.
3)Things aren't happening the way they were told it would.
4)Everyone is reassured that things will improve.
5)We Believe!We Believe!
6)Things get worse.
7)We have faith. Whats the matter with all you non-believers don't you see what a fine job so-and-so is doing for us -after all how do all great acheivements happen without a gamble? Thank you so much for all you are doing on our behalf.
8)The lights go out and everyone is left cursing.
9)Despite the clear result there always remain a few unconvinced hangers-on.

Are you talking about the .mobi timeline?

-REECE- · 11-24-2007, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Gregr

Are you talking about the .mobi timeline?

Not you again

sdsinc · 11-24-2007, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by sashas

...
So I'm not really surprised that these companies don't have geographically separate servers. These businesses are still small, with only one (or at most, two) offices.

Well that is just one example.
To use another example I have one server with 7 DNS in different locations. There are actually two coupled servers with round-robin load balancing so that if one goes down there is a backup.
BTW any decent webhost should have at least 2 NS in different subnets (not all but you get what you pay for).
And I do not even consider this configuration as mission-critical but it's nonetheless above average and clearly superior to Bodis.

Now a personal site or even a simple corporate website can afford a few minutes of downtime here and there, no problem - but if you run more serious business like e-commerce sites than it's a totally different story and you definitely need more professional hosting.
Basically I don't think the current hosting plan is fit to withstand the load that can be expected.
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Also from what I see the scripts lack some error handling. But again it's still beta and bugs are to be expected.

Finally Sdtrader is very right in his analysis.
The angry posts show naïveté and lack of business experience... Clearly one person cannot outdo the established providers overnight, that have significant resources, experience, and backing that Bodis does not have.
Anybody here remember parkingsite ? That was another experiment by a seasoned domainer that didn't live up to expectations.
Clearly running a parking program is no basement business or part-time hobby.
You usually have to start small to grow big one day. In the meantime you have to keep your expectations to a reasonable level. Nothing to make a fuss about really. It's not like everyone puts $5000 on the table and the boss disappears... everyone has got an opportunity to make a few bucks in exchange for some time parking the names and optimizing pages.
While I think Matt's handling of the whole situation leaves room for improvement I do not see a pattern of scam/fraud that warrants some of the more extreme acrimonious reactions. Come on nobody lost their lifetime savings...
Even if performance is disappointing it was your free choice to test the waters.
And keep in mind it's still a beta program as far as I am concerned... so take a breath and relax

unholy1 · 11-24-2007, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by sdsinc

Come on nobody lost their lifetime savings...

Yeah I know... but Christmas is around the corner and I need to get my Girlfriend a new car...a card just doesn't cut it these days

Bampa · 11-24-2007, 09:55 AM

I wonder just how many man hours have been wasted because of Bodis' horrid business plan...(I sometimes wonder if they actually HAD a business plan)

If I extrapolate my time lost over those 3,000 terminated accounts, the number is mind boggling.

*Source* · 11-24-2007, 11:02 AM

Hmmm. I received my termination letter from Bodis over the holiday and I am not surprised, but a bit saddened. Bodis was very good to me financially. A lot more than any other parking program to date. Moreover, I've sold several of my names via Bodis inquiries.

What happens next will be interesting. I would imagine that the other parking programs will pick up much of the ex-Bodis business. iModo, Parked, and a like will rise to prominence and we will probably never hear of Bodis again. This is rather unfortunate, as the publicized mission of Bodis was commendable, the execution was significantly flawed.

CoolMark · 11-24-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Source

and we will probably never hear of Bodis again.

No more posts from people moaning about the latest low revenue and accusing Matt of stealing their money.

Just some people earning some money from their domains parked at Bodis and not posting the details every day...

A bit like all the other parking comanies really.

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Sounds ok to me.

Devil_Dog · 11-24-2007, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by allister

I entered the whole domain name business offlate ....just 4 months back. twentytwentyworldcup.com was the 1st domain i ever bought, optimized it and parked it at bodis and gained 900USD in revenue via bodis.

Wow, and it's for sale for only $148 at Sedo.

sashas · 11-24-2007, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Devil_Dog

Wow, and it's for sale for only $148 at Sedo.

buy it!

actually the name must've received a lot of traffic when the twenty twenty cricket world cup was taking place a few months back, so the $900 revenue is justifiable.

don't sell the name. The twenty twenty world cup is supposed to take place every 2 years. If you can earn $900 every two years, thats a lot, isn't it?

***mwzd*** · 11-24-2007, 04:12 PM

I own myT20.com and T20.co.in - believe me there was very little traffic and even smaller revenue.

I have a tough time believing figures like these....

Maybe I'm doing something wrong and like VirtualIT said 'missing the boat'.

goodkarmaco · 11-24-2007, 09:06 PM

Maybe pushing traffic to it with Adsense? Deduct the $880.00 for the ads and $20.00 is for profit. Been there done that.

firefly · 11-24-2007, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by goodkarmaco

Maybe pushing traffic to it with Adsense? Deduct the $880.00 for the ads and $20.00 is for profit. Been there done that.

I don't think so GK...its a pure type in domain.Just look at the Countries i quoted in post a couple up.

The combined population of those nations and the fact that Cricket is pretty huge in most of them (usually 1st or 2nd in popularity) and it makes perfect sense he made that.

I'd be disappointed a little with $900....He should of made more.

sirengirl · 11-24-2007, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Devil_Dog

This is becoming hilarious.

WHY TAKE IT PERSONAL?

You took your chances with signing up to a BETA parking program knowing damn well that it may, or may not succeed. I can understand if no one ever received a payment, but.... Did not everyone get paid?

Now we have people talking about lawsuits and the like. Get a grip people! Cut your losses and move on.
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This is what is the matter with today's society, too damn litigious.

Spilled your hot coffee on your lap and the cup didn't have a warning label...? LAWSUIT!

Slipped and fell on ice in front of the home? Sue the homeowner!

Got lung cancer from smoking cigs? Sue the tobacco companies!

Ridiculous.

I must concur, Matt made a business decision, as there are some folks that are scammers, that have only propagated with multiple accounts and the like. If you are a long time person or had moved names away, my impression is Matt wants to make sure he can trust you. Shoot him an email! I have to question some of the messages that are especially full of hatred and ill wishes they are not only negative but make the poster(s) more suspect. Matt made a ton of mistakes, but it's a beta program so there are many unknown risks.

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Source NamePros Supporter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,526	Hmmm. I received my termination letter from Bodis over the holiday and I am not surprised, but a bit saddened. Bodis was very good to me financially. A lot more than any other parking program to date. Moreover, I've sold several of my names via Bodis inquiries. What happens next will be interesting. I would imagine that the other parking programs will pick up much of the ex-Bodis business. iModo, Parked, and a like will rise to prominence and we will probably never hear of Bodis again. This is rather unfortunate, as the publicized mission of Bodis was commendable, the execution was significantly flawed. __________________ Cheers! Last edited by Source; 11-24-2007 at 09:24 PM.

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