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Old 11-22-2007, 03:54 PM   · #3851
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Originally Posted by fatter
I doubt it would accomplish much, TOS first line reads:
The Program reserves the right to terminate any agreement at their discretion at any time.



A lawyer can tell you if exists any consumer right with more privileges that the one mentioned in that TOS.

There is legal TOS and ilegal TOS, not all written TOS are applicable.


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Old 11-22-2007, 04:12 PM   · #3852
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Do not end post Matt must do the right thing

Matt you are a young man and have alot of big plans and I think that is great, however you made a big mistake here and it is getting bigger and it is going to cost you alot of money....your t.o.s is not going to protect you from class actions...the reason is all your post on this thread..... read some and ask legal for help...you told people that things would be improving and ask people to wait it out and we did....now you must do the right thing and payout all moneys to all domain that you closed accounts now not in 45 days or longer....and pay every person something for the time spent on domains...I know you do not think you have too but you do and you will....any domain that was involved in fraud should not be part of this settlement offer but you must have proof of fraud.....a class action will cost more than if you do not offer something you will loss everything.

You claim you had over 4000 accounts and are closing 3000 it is hard to believe that 3000 accounts are all bad

4000 if they average 100 a month 400,000 a month of free money
@ 200 800,000 a month
@300 1,200,000 a month

you have used alot od other peoples money OPM and now you have to pay up

I am looking for a fair settlement for time and trouble and miss leading post a number per domain of flat payment I have 420 parked with you.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:19 PM   · #3853
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Matt you are a young man and have alot of big plans and I think that is great, however you made a big mistake here and it is getting bigger and it is going to cost you alot of money....your t.o.s is not going to protect you from class actions...the reason is all your post on this thread..... read some and ask legal for help...you told people that things would be improving and ask people to wait it out and we did....now you must do the right thing and payout all moneys to all domain that you closed accounts now not in 45 days or longer....and pay every person something for the time spent on domains...I know you do not think you have too but you do and you will....any domain that was involved in fraud should not be part of this settlement offer but you must have proof of fraud.....a class action will cost more than if you do not offer something you will loss everything.

You claim you had over 4000 accounts and are closing 3000 it is hard to believe that 3000 accounts are all bad

4000 if they average 100 a month 400,000 a month of free money
@ 200 800,000 a month
@300 1,200,000 a month

you have used alot od other peoples money OPM and now you have to pay up

I am looking for a fair settlement for time and trouble and miss leading post a number per domain of flat payment I have 420 parked with you.



he did mention that he is going to pay for all that u have earned...

Plus if you have that many domains parked at Bodis and they are doing any good just PM him and he will reinstate ur account.

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Old 11-22-2007, 04:22 PM   · #3854
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Matt you are a young man and have alot of big plans and I think that is great, however you made a big mistake here and it is getting bigger and it is going to cost you alot of money....your t.o.s is not going to protect you from class actions...the reason is all your post on this thread..... read some and ask legal for help...you told people that things would be improving and ask people to wait it out and we did....now you must do the right thing and payout all moneys to all domain that you closed accounts now not in 45 days or longer....and pay every person something for the time spent on domains...I know you do not think you have too but you do and you will....any domain that was involved in fraud should not be part of this settlement offer but you must have proof of fraud.....a class action will cost more than if you do not offer something you will loss everything.

You claim you had over 4000 accounts and are closing 3000 it is hard to believe that 3000 accounts are all bad

4000 if they average 100 a month 400,000 a month of free money
@ 200 800,000 a month
@300 1,200,000 a month

you have used alot od other peoples money OPM and now you have to pay up

I am looking for a fair settlement for time and trouble and miss leading post a number per domain of flat payment I have 420 parked with you.


lol, that is preposterous...
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:32 PM   · #3855
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:45 PM   · #3856
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I understand the frustration of everyone booted. I'm still in for now, but who knows how long? I'll probably be gone after this email....

What I'd suggest is a group effort to make something positive out of this. With all the talented NP group, certainly there are a number of people with the knowledge to create a parking system. Maybe, not from scratch, but there may be a system out there that is in need of a shot in the arm. Maybe NP members can invest shares to hire a programming staff. The investors would reap the benefits by getting a return on the success of the system.

What if....the NP membership pooled together to create a TRULY transparent parking system? With all the things we all crave for: Open books, customization, html abiltiy, revenue sharing, statistics, optimization, etc.

I'd suggest this:

ONE domain name ONLY per member to start. Nobody has to give up their money makers, however, that one name is reviewed, maybe even voted on by NP members, so it has to be decent. If accepted, that one name is part of the system. By doing this, you can take only premium names to form agreements with the major advertisers or click banks. No trashy domains.

Once the system is in place, allow a tightly NP controlled acceptance into the program to eliminate fraud right from the start.

A system like this would quickly become the leader because most domainers are fed up with the status quo.

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This is a very interesting idea but I think it would be very hard if you limit everyone to only one domain. In order to get a feed sydication you need to have a ton of traffic. If we were to do a program like this and we would 1. Need to limit it to people that we have dealt with and know to be trustworthy on NP and maybe 5 names per person. 2. The names would need to be generating a decent amount of traffic to get the feed. 3. We would have to establish a small group that would get together to manage the program. While everything would be transparant these people would still need to be paid for their time. We could try a 95% revenue share with the 5% going to the group that is managing the program. And even after all of the work that would go into developing this new program I doubt it would even be any better then Parked.com or Imodo.com.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:56 PM   · #3857
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One thing is certain. A Bodis company representative misled us all through numerous posts to this thread. Then Bodis made the decision to perform massive account closures with virtually no advanced notice.

If this matter does enter litigation, these two facts will present the greatest legal challenges for Bodis. A TOS does not give a company a license to "screw" customers.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:07 PM   · #3858
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:10 PM   · #3859
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One thing is certain. A Bodis company representative misled us all through numerous posts to this thread. Then Bodis made the decision to perform massive account closures with virtually no advanced notice.

If this matter does enter litigation, these two facts will present the greatest legal challenges for Bodis. A TOS does not give a company a license to "screw" customers.





To be honest, it just would have been nice for them not to do it on a national holiday.

They are an American company, so they should know what today is, and I'm losing out on money today because I'm not home to login to my domain accounts and go to a different parking company.

Not wrong in any legal way, but just as a common courtesy, which most companies would do.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:13 PM   · #3860
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I'm not seeing this somehow.

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Old 11-22-2007, 05:22 PM   · #3861
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chill out guys...its just a Parking program. I'm sure none of you will have to go hungry today because Bodis kicked you (and me!) out. There are tons of other options out there. Nobody is stopping you from trying them out
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:25 PM   · #3862
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While I agree that there are many options to kick people out on Thanksgiving when most Americans are visiting family and away from their computers is somewhat unprofessional. Bodis should have sent e-mails out telling of the possibility of account closures as soon as they decided to close accounts. That would have given people time to move names to other programs and prepare for this.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:27 PM   · #3863
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I am not mad or anything and think Matt did what he had to do and I harbor no anger at all, he seems like a good guy BUT to promise 100% revenue for life then get rid of 90% of the members and have them re-apply for Bodis 2.0 which they would not get 100% is an issue I think.Very Unprofesional. I do understand the anger . Especially since it was done on Thanksgiving. Again I think most of these threads are silly .. BUT There are other places to park , It should not be taken personally . Most people were leaving anyhow becasue of the low payouts. Lets all just move on.

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Old 11-22-2007, 05:33 PM   · #3864
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This Thread only shows and demostrates to all the Parking Companies how a Parking Company can make what they want with domainers.

Thanks to Matt that found a "company" from Domainers to manipulate Domainers.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:35 PM   · #3865
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:42 PM   · #3866
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Matt is very inexperienced.

He allowed all the fraudsters to open accounts with no process for account screening.

Fraudsters fuc*ed up the Bodes so badly that he had to take drastic measures.

Additionally, the customers service was always a complete disaster. period. It was perhaps the worst customer service by any company.

Bodis ignored account application from established domainers with thousands of domains and solid traffic while it was stuck in the click fraud mess. That was a very poor decision. Experienced big domainers don't join a new ppc company right away...they wait for a good reputation and solid paying history before joining....Bodis lacked wisdom to understand that to make mega money it needed mega domainers to join Bodis. So Bodis have pissed of big domainers by ignoring their account applications for months. Will be very hard for Bodis to land many big domainers in future....but it can eventually do it by proving great in vision and customer service.

Eventually account closing and falling revenues made Bodis lose trust of its members and members started thinking as if Bodis is a thief stealing their money that put Bodis in further trouble as members started jumping ship even though management did nothing wrong closing fraudulent accounts.

I wish Bodis luck and perhaps some vision to go after big solid domainers. Matt did good by developing Bodis, wish he had more experience and vision.

Backtracking on 100% revenue for people who joined or submitted account applications this year is a final nail in the coffin that many people probably think a sure sign of dishonest company......wonder how will Bodis recover from this spread of dishonesty and deceitful allegations?

Good Luck Bodis!!!

Hope you recover soon!!!

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Old 11-22-2007, 05:48 PM   · #3867
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Matt must pay up

I think that the man must pay for his mistake..someone made money with my time and closes accounts with out notice and still holds money wake up people... I am asking to be paid for my time he must pay Matt you can pm me your offer and I will respond I have to work all weekend... I am sorry but time is money and you took my time and made money....
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:04 PM   · #3868
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Being a loyal customer got me jack.

So, all my posts about how great Bodis is...I take them all back....

Bodis kicked me out today for having low to medium traffic....

Being a loyal client got me jack.

This nonsense about emailing Matt to get reinstated....I wouldn't try to go back and certainly won't even consider sending an email to Bodis begging to get back.

Now that sucks, oh yeah and I wouldn't go back to Bodis under any circumstance, financial incentives or otherwise...not after this treatment.

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Old 11-22-2007, 06:35 PM   · #3869
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The manipulation, deceit and lies here... starting to look like a soap opera...

Fact is, Matt is an immature donkey who knew how to manipulate his potential customers/partners, by telling them what they wanted to hear and now he is getting exactly what he wanted... there hard-earned money.

Goodluck to this little scammer...
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Revenue should overall go up a bit in the next few days, especially for high paying keywords. So if you have had high paying keywords in the past do bad, you can try them again in 3-4 days to see how they do now.


This was posted a few days ago on November 19th. Since 90% of the accounts have been closed since then (by your own admission) how is this possible?
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The manipulation, deceit and lies here... starting to look like a soap opera...

Fact is, Matt is an immature donkey who knew how to manipulate his potential customers/partners, by telling them what they wanted to hear and now he is getting exactly what he wanted... there hard-earned money.

Goodluck to this little scammer...



It sounds pretty harsh, but at this point it is pretty clear. What Matt ran was a very orchestrated but painfully obvious scam. There is definitely going to be legal trouble ahead for him. I was talking to an attorney on another board today who came over, had a look at the thread, at bodis' TOS and is 100% convinced that if Matt went to court he would owe a lot of people money.

And I should add, doing it on Thanksgiving is a VERY obvious sign to pull an extra days revenue off of however many thousands of accounts were closed today. Get ready to face some court time buddy..... because you have pissed off a couple thousand people, some of which I am sure have enough money and are angry enough to take you to court........hope you kept really good books.


THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF FRAUD:
Fraud: An intentional perversion of truth; deceitful practice or device resorted to with intent to deprive another of property, both physical and financial, or other right or in some manner to do injury or harm to that person.



And no matter how good of a TOS you write, the fact that you came in here and said the things you did nullifies it. I would start focusing on your books more than anything else. Screw your company. Jail time and debt should be on your mind now.....
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That is a bit harsh but yes he definetly has a huge problem if someone wants to have legal action just based on reading this thread. He left himself wide open to alot of issues.. This really could have been done more profesionaly and done without pisssing off 90% of the board ( Alot who have supported him so much).

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Goodbye Bodis...I guess my domains were low traffic or poor quality like everyone else. Very poor customer service and communication.

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I guess it was only a matter of time before people started to talk about taking legal action. I guess you would go after him for lost time? He is paying out the revenue made this month. I personally would not sue but I do think it is important that we share our experiance with dealing with Bodis. I have started www.Bodisreviews.com for this purpose. I urge everyone to share their experiances of dealing with Bodis. My review reflects exactly what my experiance was. Very nice until they kicked me out. It was not getting kicked out that I have a problem with but the way it was done.
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