Another Appraisal Scam email. - Page 3

sdsinc · 03-26-2008, 02:46 PM

I would definitely file a chargeback. If enough people challenge the charges these crooks will ultimately lose their merchant account.

onlinegelir · 03-28-2008, 05:00 PM

I actually fell into this scam.
But I have requested immediately a chargeback, upon realizing I was scammed.
I got my money back the same day.

Dreads · 03-28-2008, 07:46 PM

I have gotten some of the simliar emails..
Apprently there is probly a spider lucking around NP getting our emails or something..silly scammers

Trix is for Kids

jamesturner · 04-25-2008, 01:52 PM

I'm at five replies with this guy - now trading as Patrick Harrison, Chief Operations Officer, PHK Consulting, using management@phreaker.net to email. He's quite generous, and appears to have a set of standard replies. I've gone down the sedo route of appraisal and things like that, but he is persistent. I'll see how long I can go. Any tips?
Thanks,
James

Idees · 04-25-2008, 02:39 PM

Yea, I got one from him too just now.

Just ignore

Originally Posted by jamesturner

I'm at five replies with this guy - now trading as Patrick Harrison, Chief Operations Officer, PHK Consulting, using management@phreaker.net to email. He's quite generous, and appears to have a set of standard replies. I've gone down the sedo route of appraisal and things like that, but he is persistent. I'll see how long I can go. Any tips?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/317467-another-appraisal-scam-email.html
Thanks,
James

weblord · 04-25-2008, 02:42 PM

thanks for the headsup, so you need a Ph.D to scam?

Wampy · 06-21-2008, 06:51 PM

This is the one I received .... at least he put in a decent $ amount.

Can you accept 7,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317467

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog:
http://domainmarket.007sites.com/Archive/419570.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Mailed from NG Services | ngservices@phreaker.net

frustinc · 06-29-2008, 07:04 AM

Same scam is still around.

Email recieved:

Quote:

Greetings!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317467

has been found via online auctions.

Please let us know the your price and we will consider it.

Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Anthony Stecker
Vice President
N G (The Next Generation) Services
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information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
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Replied 3 days ago. Haven't heard anything beck yet

Quote:

Salutations!

I am pleased you are interested in my domain. Sadly, I would not be able to consider offers below $1 500 000.00, as I am currently using this website for my business.

I wish you joyous luck with your investments.

God bless,
William J. Superman

Sodathief · 07-30-2008, 02:20 AM

lol look what I wrote back to this f#$#:

Not to discredit what your link shows, but I am not really impressed with some random blog on a sub domain of a site that has no ability to leave comments.

I will use godaddy for appraisal and the domain name aftermarket.

Is that up to your standards?

gjvblack · 07-30-2008, 06:11 PM

this guy is a known scammer. the domain @toughguy.net is used by the members part of the scamming

herko · 08-08-2008, 03:42 PM

I can add another alias for this guy:

George Ogilvie
CEO
Ogilvie Technologies

Indeed a toughguy.net address.

Herko

whannel · 08-20-2008, 02:09 AM

Yip ogilvie@toughguy.net caught me out with an offer of 4500 pounds, 500 less than i asked for, but I opted for an appraisal from Sedo which I'm now waiting on. After that he said he couldn't accept one from them as I'm listed with them and their appraisal will be higher as they want 10% although we could use them as a broker... told him to get one himself and we'd compare the two, but he now says

"We both need independent valuation first.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317467

Sellers always provide buyers with valuations. This is a common practice.

I don't trust $14 services like that GoDaddy's valuation service. Nobody
will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.

I researched several companies and here are the results:

I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this
company has very bad reputation
Just read this blog
http://accuratedomains.blogspot.com/
So I'm not going to accept this fraudulent service.

I also considered www.Afternic.com, but now it's clear their service is not
reliable enough.
Just read this:
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a
recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

Another complaint
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630

I was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com. It
costs - $200/hour.

Many experienced sellers suggested me www.EasyNameSale.com as a trustworth
manual service. They charge per name not per hour. I've read only positive
comments about them."

even bringing up other scams, the re-suggestion of www.EasyNameSale.com led me here...

I've told him I've gone for the $200 an hour one for now, as well as the Sedo one that's due back soon...

testnick · 12-20-2008, 03:23 PM

HE's back! I just got:

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317467

Quote:

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online.

Please let us know your price.

We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain
business is very attractive.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Jeremy Marshall
CEO
TG Network

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NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
================================================== ======

jmarshall@toughguy.net

Should I make little joke from him?

canadianestates · 12-20-2008, 07:44 PM

I have a friend who is on the "other" side of this business. He's a legit opt-in and double opt-in publisher. I know what makes these guys shake in their boots... and unfortunately for him. He just spammed me... it took me about 15 minutes to be sure of what this mailer is up to, but I figured it out without too much trouble. I feel bad for those that actually paid this guy off, but I guess it's not that high of a price to pay. If you are interested in hitting back a little bit. Try here:

http://www.spamhaus.org/

03-26-2008, 02:46 PM	#51 (permalink)
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03-28-2008, 07:46 PM	#53 (permalink)
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04-25-2008, 02:42 PM	#56 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,784	thanks for the headsup, so you need a Ph.D to scam? __________________ Nabaza.com - Amaia

07-30-2008, 06:11 PM	#60 (permalink)
gjvblack NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 276	this guy is a known scammer. the domain @toughguy.net is used by the members part of the scamming __________________ Online Security & Web Design

12-20-2008, 07:44 PM	#64 (permalink)
canadianestates NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 145	I have a friend who is on the "other" side of this business. He's a legit opt-in and double opt-in publisher. I know what makes these guys shake in their boots... and unfortunately for him. He just spammed me... it took me about 15 minutes to be sure of what this mailer is up to, but I figured it out without too much trouble. I feel bad for those that actually paid this guy off, but I guess it's not that high of a price to pay. If you are interested in hitting back a little bit. Try here: http://www.spamhaus.org/ __________________ http://www.wwtlds.com World Wide Top Level Domains... Now offering World Wide Domain Registration from $1.99, as well as Hosting and WebBuilding Services

03-28-2008, 05:00 PM	#52 (permalink)
onlinegelir NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 157	I actually fell into this scam. But I have requested immediately a chargeback, upon realizing I was scammed. I got my money back the same day.

04-25-2008, 01:52 PM	#54 (permalink)
jamesturner New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2	I'm at five replies with this guy - now trading as Patrick Harrison, Chief Operations Officer, PHK Consulting, using management@phreaker.net to email. He's quite generous, and appears to have a set of standard replies. I've gone down the sedo route of appraisal and things like that, but he is persistent. I'll see how long I can go. Any tips? Thanks, James

06-21-2008, 06:51 PM	#57 (permalink)
Wampy New Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7	This is the one I received .... at least he put in a decent $ amount. Can you accept 7,000 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317467 To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog: http://domainmarket.007sites.com/Archive/419570.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. Mailed from NG Services \| ngservices@phreaker.net

07-30-2008, 02:20 AM	#59 (permalink)
Sodathief New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8	lol look what I wrote back to this f#$#: Not to discredit what your link shows, but I am not really impressed with some random blog on a sub domain of a site that has no ability to leave comments. I will use godaddy for appraisal and the domain name aftermarket. Is that up to your standards?

08-08-2008, 03:42 PM	#61 (permalink)
herko New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4	I can add another alias for this guy: George Ogilvie CEO Ogilvie Technologies Indeed a toughguy.net address. Herko

08-20-2008, 02:09 AM	#62 (permalink)
whannel Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 61	Yip ogilvie@toughguy.net caught me out with an offer of 4500 pounds, 500 less than i asked for, but I opted for an appraisal from Sedo which I'm now waiting on. After that he said he couldn't accept one from them as I'm listed with them and their appraisal will be higher as they want 10% although we could use them as a broker... told him to get one himself and we'd compare the two, but he now says "We both need independent valuation first. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317467 Sellers always provide buyers with valuations. This is a common practice. I don't trust $14 services like that GoDaddy's valuation service. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service. I researched several companies and here are the results: I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation Just read this blog http://accuratedomains.blogspot.com/ So I'm not going to accept this fraudulent service. I also considered www.Afternic.com, but now it's clear their service is not reliable enough. Just read this: http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm "Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future." Another complaint http://www.out-law.com/page-1630 I was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com. It costs - $200/hour. Many experienced sellers suggested me www.EasyNameSale.com as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. I've read only positive comments about them." even bringing up other scams, the re-suggestion of www.EasyNameSale.com led me here... I've told him I've gone for the $200 an hour one for now, as well as the Sedo one that's due back soon...

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